about FC workshop

need 4 crafters to be in party to make airship part, do the crafter need to be from same FC ? Yoshi did not mention that on the live letter

my question is do they have to be a certain lvl or say craftmanship?

yeah, not mention that either. There ll be question and answer time after live letter

edit: nope, question & answer is not about the game...R.I.P

Logic dictates that if you need four signatures to create a FC, there is a REASON you needed four and not just one.

But that's just my silly old logic.

My question is, are we really forced to have 4 crafters to complete an airship?

Because my FC is formed by 3 guys and 2 alts.

This is like if Yoshi were condemning small FCs with a completely needless rule.

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

Logic dictates that if you need four signatures to create a FC, there is a REASON you needed four and not just one.

But that's just my silly old logic.

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yeah, but my question is if they need to be from same FC not about if I need 4 or 3....

Does it really have to be a party of 4. Cause all i heard was that it needed to be a party and techincally a party can be described as a group of 2 or more people.

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Originally Posted by Renik

My question is, are we really forced to have 4 crafters to complete an airship?

Because my FC is formed by 3 guys and 2 alts.

This is like if Yoshi were condemning small FCs with a completely needless rule.

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Please don't even go there.

What about tiny guilds that have only 2-3 players or players who can't always play together due to time zone differences, etc.? Are they left out of this Free Company workshop system entirely?

Do those 4 crafters have to be online simultaneously or can alt characters be utilized by forming a party of alt characters and then contributing to the crafting task by logging in one at a time?

Honestly for smaller groups, nows the time to expand your forces and invite more people. Odds are if they do it like ixali quest it might just be any 4 lv 50+ crafter or rather whatever the lv of crafter items needed.

There are two ways it could work.

If the items are smith/carp/carp/leather then you might need 1 smith, 2 carp, 1 leather to do that synth. Or they might just allow you to use any 4 crafters as long as all the items are in place much like ixali let you synth on any craft regardless of what you are making.

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Originally Posted by Eyjabria

What about tiny guilds that have only 2-3 players or players who can't always play together due to time zone differences, etc.? Are they left out of this Free Company workshop system entirely?

Do those 4 crafters have to be online simultaneously or can alt characters be utilized by forming a party of alt characters and then contributing to the crafting task by logging in one at a time?

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I agree with you cause my fc is only me and my husband. So i would like to know the answer to this as well.

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Originally Posted by Airget

Honestly for smaller groups, nows the time to expand your forces and invite more people.

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Honestly, ever thought that many companys are close friends/family and do not want more people?

Instead of having virtually no material costs and requiring 4 crafters, they should've gone with a signficantly higher material costs (more player theoretically can gather and afford much more materials), resulting in a overall faster (or cheaper) completion for higher populated guilds, while only requiring one crafter, so that even the low number companys can craft these things.

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Originally Posted by Kogasan

I agree with you cause my fc is only me and my husband. So i would like to know the answer to this as well.

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Same for me. Just me and my husband. And we're not comfortable with recruiting other people we don't really know.

Right now I am the only crafter of my FC, if we can't ask for help of other players then we will never see an airship
And I thought that the airship's combustible would be our biggest problem

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Originally Posted by Eyjabria

Same for me. Just me and my husband. And we're not comfortable with recruiting other people we don't really know.

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I'm the same way. My friend and I created the guild so we could easily help each other. We've both tried joining guilds ran by others in past games and it just never felt right. We like helping others and teaming up but we just don't feel comfortable letting others join yet.

Guess we'll see how this feature plays out soon enough.

I wonder if there will be a warning, before actually clicking to purchase the workshop, that 4 crafters are needed? I can see people buying it only to be disappointed to have wasted the Gil because they don't have 4 crafters :(

As 1 of only 2 crafters in my FC, I'm very glad I found out about this now. The first thing I was going to do when I log in was to buy the workshop and explore what I could do with it.

Hopefully they eventually release airship workshops for personal housing. This is going to be just like gardening in an FC. Only a few members will ever take part in this content while everyone else will be left out. There's only 4 airships that can be sent out and likely the FC leader will set permissions and rules so only certain people can use them and use them the way they want them to.

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Originally Posted by Eyjabria

Same for me. Just me and my husband. And we're not comfortable with recruiting other people we don't really know.

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Same with us we don't feel comfortable with inviting people we don't really know either. At least for right now.

Where did it say we'd need four crafters, if I may ask? This is unsettling news, as our FC is only a good friend and myself, and like some other posters, we prefer to keep it that way.

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Originally Posted by Orspeth

Where did it say we'd need four crafters, if I may ask? This is unsettling news, as our FC is only a good friend and myself, and like some other posters, we prefer to keep it that way.

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in the recent live letter, and crafter need to be in same party. However he did not mention if the crafter need to be in same FC or not

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Digest-Thread

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

The difficulty for crafting is not very high, and you'll be able to do it while leveling up your Disciple of the Hand classes.

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You're not going to need 4 Master Crafters to build these it seems.

Also, isn't one of the purposes of FC Airships the ability to board it as an FC and go to a discovered instance and fight things like a special NM? I doubt 2 people would be able to clear that.

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Since this is a huge crafting endeavor, you’ll need to form a party of four to do it.

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so yeah, confirm requried 4 ppl but still not if the player need to be from FC or can be outside FC

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Originally Posted by Kogasan

I agree with you cause my fc is only me and my husband. So i would like to know the answer to this as well.

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i have a suggestion you may not like, hire a few crafters from other Fc's on the premise that when its built you give em the boot, you wanna bea small FC thats fine but you may have to pay the price

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

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so yeah, confirm requried 4 ppl but still not if the player need to be from FC or can be outside FC

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It would make sense to me that it would have to be from the same FC considering it's something that should only be accessed by FC members. I could be wrong though, since this wasn't explained, I guess we'll have to wait. It does seem unfair to those who have small FCs.

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Originally Posted by Nitshft

i have a suggestion you may not like, hire a few crafters from other Fc's on the premise that when its built you give em the boot, you wanna bea small FC thats fine but you may have to pay the price

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I guess that could work for small FC's. I wouldn't be surprised if these crafters decide to charge for it though. Not sure if this is still a thing but, I think that back in the day you could only join an FC every 24 hours or so? Then again, there are people who don't belong to any FCs to begin with who won't mind I'm sure.

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Originally Posted by Nitshft

i have a suggestion you may not like, hire a few crafters from other Fc's on the premise that when its built you give em the boot, you wanna bea small FC thats fine but you may have to pay the price

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Coalition between FCs could work.
Like... we aren't in the same FC, but we are in a coalition so we can do FC locked content together

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Originally Posted by Keylus

Coalition between FCs could work.
Like... we aren't in the same FC, but we are in a coalition so we can do FC locked content together

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yea this too would work, Im just saying if you want to keep the small friend atmosphere you may have to pay the price.

If a party of 4 is required, then it will in all likeliness require them to be in the same FC in order to interact with the items (you can't interact with company chests in other people's houses for example). This is an MMO after all, where party content is 4 players, so it's to be expected really.

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

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so yeah, confirm requried 4 ppl but still not if the player need to be from FC or can be outside FC

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Wow, don't like this at all - might just be a game breaker for me, depending on how much my friend wants those ships...

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

need 4 crafters to be in party to make airship part, do the crafter need to be from same FC ? Yoshi did not mention that on the live letter

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Wait what?


That'll be fun then. My fc only had 3, and one of them left recently.

Oh well, I'll just have to ask my Ixal pals for help then.

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Originally Posted by Sskaiin

Also, isn't one of the purposes of FC Airships the ability to board it as an FC and go to a discovered instance and fight things like a special NM? I doubt 2 people would be able to clear that.

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yes but all fc can go to the same places so you can team up with other ones. (if you wanted too i assume no proof)

hum taking into count of info so fare this is going to be massy for lot fc's out thare some savaer crafters going be try buy them out....o a saying goes reit a crafter for a day... . personaly i good end crafter my safe chuond see more probems arices then not . who kown its all way good keep eye and ear out . Caveat emptor before invisting into this for airships. i kind plan on some like tihs happining head probely month or two back just in case. 4 chars two main mastiys and all lond per set for trun and patcher finshing.