Xaela name examples

These names are taken from the history of the Mongolian Empire. This is not meant to be an exhaustive list, more of a reference for people who want to make a Xaela with a lore inspired name but aren't sure where to start.

Male names:

Temujin
Batachi
Tamacha
Qorichar
A’ujam
Sali’qacha’u
Yeke’nidum
Sem’sochi
Qarchu
Borjigidai
Toroqoljin
Boroldai
Dayir
Boro
Duwa’soqor
Dobun’mergen
Barqudai
Qorilartai
Bugunutei
Belgunutei
Bodonchar
Buqatu
Buqu-qatagi
Jajirada
Jamuqa
Ba’aridai
Yisugei
Qasar
Qachi’un
Monglik
Bekter
Sorqan
Bo’orchu
Jelme
Kokochu

If anyone has questions, comments, or more names to add, please let me know! I'll try to keep this post updated best I can!

Female names:

Note: the suffixes -qchin and -qo’a often denote that a name is feminine.

Qo’ai
Boroqchin
Alan
Barqujin
Ho’elun
Borte
Temulun
Orbei
Soqatai
Chotai
Qo’aqchin
Ebegei
Qada’an
Yisugen
Yisui
Qutuqai
Cha’alun
Cha’ur’beki
Alaq’it
Huja’ur’ujin
Sorqaqtanibeki
Ibaqa’beki
Gurbesu
Qulan
Doregene
Tugei
Altani

If anyone has questions, comments, or more names to add, please let me know! I'll try to keep this post updated best I can!

Qulan can also be spelled Khulan I believe.

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Qulan can also be spelled Khulan I believe.

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*nod nod*

Since the Mongols at the time of the empire didn't have the Latin script in which English is written, there will likely be variations for the spellings of many names. I used spellings from a translation of The Secret History of the Mongols, which is an old text written about the Mongolian Empire and Chinggis Qahan (Genghis Khan) in particular.

Can we use multiple apostrophes in a name? If not, then it may be prudent to remove those or look for alternatives. Also, what about gender-neutral names?

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Can we use multiple apostrophes in a name? If not, then it may be prudent to remove those or look for alternatives. Also, what about gender-neutral names?

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Good questions! I'll figure out the apostrophes and get back on that one. As for gender neutral names, the names on the list are from figures from old texts on Mongolian history, so I based the gender of the name off the listed gender of the person. It is entirely possible for some of them to be gender neutral, but I don't know offhand. I would recommend looking at both lists, finding a name you like, and researching how that name is/was used for people outside of the old texts. I'm no expert, but thanks to one very interesting and specific college elective class, I have the means and knowledge of where to look at the texts.

I found the name Inkeh, but not sure if it "old enough" to actually work?

Given that Xaela names are based on pre-empire Mongol names, you can just combine a Middle Mongol noun and modifier to come up with a name.
http://heraldry.sca.org/names/mongol...mes_marta.html

I'm making a list myself, ex:
Sarangerel = moonlight
Sarankhara = dark moon

Some words I thought might be popular for female Xaela:
saran = moon
naran = sun
gerel = light
sarnai = rose
tsetseg = flower
altan = gold
khara = black, dark
...

Just use some online translation for other basic words and combine them, would work out.

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Oh no, I already picked a gender neutral name for my character because it fits their background better. I was more asking for other people who may have that situation. I used this page as a reference before I found your helpful thread.

For anyone curious, I got the names from here:

https://jigjids.files.wordpress.com/...ggis_khan1.pdf

It's a long and heavy read, but it has a lot of pre Mongolian Empire names. I kinda misspoke, the text is more about the founding of the empire in the beginning, and then around the middle it gets more into the earlier days. My goal was to slog through all the pages to get the names so everyone wouldn't have to themselves if they were interested.

Why are people looking at pre Empire Mongolian names? It says 15th century that's well after the time the empire colapsed into successor states.

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Why are people looking at pre Empire Mongolian names? It says 15th century that's well after the time the empire colapsed into successor states.

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Give or take a few centuries. I will use and imperial name for sure.

Found another article that might be of use:
http://heraldry.sca.org/names/mongol...mes_marta.html

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Give or take a few centuries. I will use and imperial name for sure.

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And preimperial is give or taking alot of centuries. I mean its debatable there were a mongol people before the rise of the confederations. At that point who's acceptable? Huns? Tamurlaine's empire? the Mughuls?

Since it said "names from the 15th century" in the naming conventions post I think "Turkish" sounding names are also ok. Some male names I have found (and one of which I will use):

Jirgal: happiness
Arigh pure
Jochi: guest
Enebish “Not This”
Oyuun 'mind'
Khenbish "Nobody"
Ganbold "steel-steel"
+ -dai, -ge/gei, and -der (suffixes for male names)

I am not sure if it is ok to just use one word or if one has to use two words or one word + gender suffix though

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Thanks for the list. I already had a name in mind so I think I'll likely use existing names to make something that sounds similar to something Mongolian without just taking one as it stands. *frantically makes huge list of possible names*

Throw this one on the list: Altani, for a good female name.

A daughter of Genghis Khan. One time Tatar assassin or kidnapper (unclear) bluffed his way into camp under plea of hospitality. He tried to pull a move. She wrestled him into submission. She was like 12.

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Throw this one on the list: Altani, for a good female name.

A daughter of Genghis Khan. One time Tatar assassin or kidnapper (unclear) bluffed his way into camp under plea of hospitality. He tried to pull a move. She wrestled him into submission. She was like 12.

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Added to the main post, thank you!

Found this handy-dandy translator. Can't verify if the names it gives are authentic 15th century Mongolian names, but it does translate from EN to Mongolian, and since names of that time seemed to be based on objects and such it could still prove useful.

https://en.glosbe.com/en/mn/

Surprisingly, http://fantasynamegenerators.com/mongolian-names.php also has a ton of Mongolian names. It's not as thorough as more academic pages -- it doesn't have the translations, for example -- but I thought I'd add another resource to the pile anyway.

Thanks for these! Great reference for those of us searching for accurate period Mongolian names (otherwise I was gonna name my male Xaela Naranbataar - still not sure if that'll work). The heraldry.sca.org sites look like a fantastic resource.

I also found a couple sites:

http://forums.stardock.com/4647

And this one is useful for those people looking to construct their own Mongolian-esque name:

http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/baras...mongolian.html

And for the linguistics lovers among us:

http://www.viahistoria.com/SilverHor...ngolNames.html

I love how as a result of this, a lot of us are probably crashing into a lesson in Mongol history via these sites.

Did you know! Despite their unquestionably well-deserved reputation for indiscriminate brutality, the Mongol Horde of Genghis Khan's time passed laws granting women generally equivalent legal rights to men -- or at least, tried to, with mixed results. This included things such as the right to own property in their own name and the right to divorce. Double standards and expectations still existed, with consequences small and large for breaking them, but it's nonetheless generally believed to be true by historians. In this, they're rather similar to the ancient Norse; another far-ranging, oft-vilified culture, who actually had a very well-established and (for it's time) fair legal system.

A possible factor for this: Genghis Khan and his siblings were raised almost entirely by their single mom, Oulen of Olkhunut, who went on to become his top advisers throughout his reign.

(A strong, independent Mongol woman who don't need no man, so to speak)

Well Pastoralists tend to have a more hands on "everyone needs to do stuff" thing vs settled groups.

Very true! Though the Mongols at least tried to hold together a stable nation-based civilization.

It seems like the Xaela are really a far more one-for-one adaptation of a real-world culture than any of the other races, albeit through the high-fantasy lens. Not that it detracts.

Hasn't Garlemald conquered Othard, though? It seems like they'dve pulled a reverse-Genghis and get the clans to fight each other rather than acknowledge the common threat and snap them up when they down.

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Very true! Though the Mongols at least tried to hold together a stable nation-based civilization.

It seems like the Xaela are really a far more one-for-one adaptation of a real-world culture than any of the other races, albeit through the high-fantasy lens. Not that it detracts.

Hasn't Garlemald conquered Othard, though? It seems like they'dve pulled a reverse-Genghis and get the clans to fight each other rather than acknowledge the common threat and snap them up when they down.

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I wouldn't say they are one for one, nearly all the clans are references to other things. Afew are explicitly other horse nomads of the steppes but that's rather to be expected. They have plenty of Turk, Mongol, Hun etc in them plus what foreigners were saying about them and some Dune.

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And preimperial is give or taking alot of centuries. I mean its debatable there were a mongol people before the rise of the confederations. At that point who's acceptable? Huns? Tamurlaine's empire? the Mughuls?

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A "few" is generally known to be 2 to 5 (max). Most commonly a few is known as, 3. So a 12th-18th century timeline gives us a very wide range to chose from. Lot's of names fit the time period of 2 of the 3 you listed. Though, the Huns is being a bit dramatic lol.

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Hasn't Garlemald conquered Othard, though? It seems like they'dve pulled a reverse-Genghis and get the clans to fight each other rather than acknowledge the common threat and snap them up when they down.

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I've been sort of wondering about this myself, with the new info out there. I'd actually think that the new Garlean authorities would be very sour on some of their subjects warring with each other constantly and would much prefer they settle down and become "productive". Yet another hook for why your character came to Eorzea, really, and there's already a ton.

I found this database.

Mongolian etymology

Since it's an etymology database, probably won't be able to get actual names/meanings that auto-translators will recognize, but maybe someone can get some use out of it.

Despite pages being numbered rather than lettered, it is still in alphabetical order, shouldn't be too hard to find a word that sounds like something you're looking for.

I used it to basically find a word close to my lalafell's name in middle or written mongolian and changed it a tiny bit. Sure, they're not really names, but I'm satisfied with what I got.

This http://heraldry.sca.org/names/mongol...mes_marta.html was a big help for me when I picked the name for the au'ra I'm gonna be starting today!

/sobs
they made this so hard! I feel like the -meaning- of the words used is super important.. but most resources just list names without translations ( the random generator in game will be the same I'm sure)... and needless to say Mongolian stuff isn't that easy to come across in general.. At least in comparison to Japanese. Old school or not.

This is maybe helpful too :3

http://altaica.ru/LIBRARY/Khabtagaev...gaeva_2001.pdf

manang - mist, fog
anggir - kind of yellow duck
bulagan - sable
jegeren - antelope
keriyen - crow
qaligun - otter
qung - swan
cisun - blood
kileng - velvet, plush
noqai - dog

I am readig trough some pages of a book (sadly there are only a few viewable online!) about middle mongolian loanwords in other languages... so why not share.

qaryai - larch (tree)
qara'ul - guard, watch, scout
qarciqai - hawk,falcon
qariyu - return, answer
qaurasun - bird's feather
qir(a)maq - powdery snow
xonlya/qonalya - bivouac
makta - to praise
manglai - vanguard
mata - to bend, curve, hollow out in a vault shape -> interesting thing about this ... it 'evolved' into having additionally the meaning "to torture"
mergen - a good marksman
mese - any edged weapon or tool , knife, dagger, sword, surgical scalpel
moqadaq - stupid, blunt
moyilsun - wildcherry
narasun - pine
niy/niq - solid
sayadaq - quiver
saqayu - a fatal disease of horses
sarana - lily
siltay - cause, excuse
sirqa - illness
saugat - gift, present
soqor - blind
sibaga/sobaga - dice, lot
tanglai - soft palate