HW relic bonus

Hi all

So we know that those who have completed a zeta will have a *slightly* easier time with the HW relics. I decided to finish my relic in the past couple weeks after abandoning it when the novus stage came out. Now I am on my 6th mahatma and I don\\'t think it will be finished before the game goes down on thursday as I only get a couple hours of play time after work on a weekday.

So my question is, does the "easier next step for new relic" apply only to those who have completed a zeta before HW? (Or do we not have this info yet)

Apologies if this has been asked before

Well the new relics come out in 3.1, so you have a few months to finish yours.
Other than that, all I've heard is we'll have glamour options. Any hinting towards an easier time was so vague you can't even say for sure it'll be something that'll actually give current owners an easier time at all.

I wouldn't bother if I were you (I know I am not bothering).
You will likely get something better soon, during the leveling and doing new dungeons.

Try to get it done! It's a great feeling :)

Also, don't forget to check bonus windows for light to help as you are only on for a few hours at a time. http://www.reddit.com/live/tlfmtjl4fteo

Does it apply for classes you don't have a Zeta in as well? Kinda curious.

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Originally Posted by Reishi

Does it apply for classes you don't have a Zeta in as well? Kinda curious.

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Meaning those who just began? Good question. I stopped at Atma and don't really plan to finish it. Well we'll see

What server are you on? Happy to tank with you to get it done. Being so close you have to do it now :)

Thanks for the offer but I am on Lich! I will still finish it seeings as I am close to zeta..but looks like it will be once HW is out :)

The bonus or advantage which really was not stated but moreso "those who have Zeta will be taken into consideration"
So it would only be for Zeta holders so probably only the class you have it with, and i sort of agree that it's nice to have a zeta complete but at this point in time not at all sure if it would be worth the time if you are planning to just get started.
On the flip side come Heavansward they will most likely make it easier yet again, so who knows.

Isn't the bonus that we can choose what look we like from all stages and buy it from Gerolt and glamour it?

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Originally Posted by RachaelMarie22

Hi all

So we know that those who have completed a zeta will have a *slightly* easier time with the HW relics.

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Players have speculated that those with zetas will have an easier time. The developers have never said that. They have only said that players who have completed a zeta will be "taken into consideration", which can mean anything, even simply meaning that an NPC involved in the new quest may use a different dialogue which acknowledges the fact that someone completed their relic quest. At that point the accomplishment would be "taken into consideration" and the developers would have been true to their word.

I worry that some players are going to be really upset with whatever "taken into consideration" ends up meaning if the results don't live up to their expectations.

It will probably end up just being a glamour thing my guess

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Originally Posted by Canadane

Well the new relics come out in 3.1, so you have a few months to finish yours.
Other than that, all I've heard is we'll have glamour options. Any hinting towards an easier time was so vague you can't even say for sure it'll be something that'll actually give current owners an easier time at all.

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Glad to hear that, my journey to excalibur was derailed by RL for long enough, perhaps there is still time...

Most likely they'll boost lights gained and other RNG non-sense. Also keep in mind the book phase has already known to be easier as the dungeons in all the books are ARR dungeons and usually 2 of the 3 are low level which we know we will be able to go with a smaller team or even solo at lv50+, so those are easier and we haven't even gotten news beyond that yet.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

Well the new relics come out in 3.1, so you have a few months to finish yours.
Other than that, all I've heard is we'll have glamour options. Any hinting towards an easier time was so vague you can't even say for sure it'll be something that'll actually give current owners an easier time at all.

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What is coming on 3,1 is the quest to upgrade the current new relic.
On 3.0 the new relic ( the first stage ) will be abailable. Have you seen the movie trailer, af2, benchmark, tourth to the north videos. Those weapons that combines perfect with the af2 are the new relics, not tomestone weapons.

About the advantaje, they already said is gonna be an small advantaje, but an advantaje is and advantaje so its worthly. If it ends to be like an zeta scroll, is totaly worthly .

I was so proud of myself when I finally finished farming all of the Nexus light. Then I discovered the requirements for the next part of the relic and got disheartened.

I still haven't recovered from all the gil spent on materia.

I'm stuck on the Materia phase. I swear, since they made the Materia RNG worse, I've ALMOST given up on the Relic process...

I'm actually really excited - I finished my light stage and I'm on the quest stages, and I have ALL THESE JOBS TO LEVEL in those dungeons so I'll be doing double duty!

1: They have not specified what the "consideration" we are getting for completing the 2.0 relics is
2: The relic quest is getting nerfed super hard in 3.0
3: The next relic will prob be way easier than the current one because of forum feedback.

Hope that answers your question.

Ppl just wanted a headstart so bad that they made themselves think its going to be something earth shattering. But all they can say is " we don't know yet, but i hope its something ".
Yoshi decides naw the headstart was just a translation error and it actually meant you guys will just have more glamour options!
I'd laugh then be like its alright guys.

Just remember, its going to be just another glamor item soon and replaced by around level 55 even at full power.

Thanks for the info guys, I didn't realise it was only player speculation. I won't get my hopes up now ^.^

I really don't care if I get a shortcut for the new relic or not. I only care that the new relic is worth the inevitable grind. Let's hope it has some bonuses beyond the vanilla gear we've gotten so bored of.

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Originally Posted by Gyson

Players have speculated that those with zetas will have an easier time. The developers have never said that. They have only said that players who have completed a zeta will be "taken into consideration", which can mean anything, even simply meaning that an NPC involved in the new quest may use a different dialogue which acknowledges the fact that someone completed their relic quest. At that point the accomplishment would be "taken into consideration" and the developers would have been true to their word.

I worry that some players are going to be really upset with whatever "taken into consideration" ends up meaning if the results don't live up to their expectations.

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Just like Legacy players who did get different NPC dialogue...
We all know how it ended up :)

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Originally Posted by Frederick22

What is coming on 3,1 is the quest to upgrade the current new relic.
On 3.0 the new relic ( the first stage ) will be abailable. Have you seen the movie trailer, af2, benchmark, tourth to the north videos. Those weapons that combines perfect with the af2 are the new relics, not tomestone weapons.

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That's 100% speculation, though. I wouldn't mind those weapons, but you have no basis for your claim.

Here's whats happening with the Zodiac Weapons in 3.0

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...b6&oe=55EB879D

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Originally Posted by Canadane

Well the new relics come out in 3.1, so you have a few months to finish yours.

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3.1 is 4/5weeks away not a few months. They said Alex Sav was 3.1. And that is 4 weeks after 23rd.

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Originally Posted by Lulu89

3.1 is 4/5weeks away not a few months. They said Alex Sav was 3.1. And that is 4 weeks after 23rd.

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Where's the source for this?

The currently known schedule is this:

Launch - 3 days: early access
Launch
Launch + 2 weeks: Alexander (Normal) opens
Launch + 4 weeks: Alexander (Hard) opens and Tomestone of Esoterics unlocked
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3.1: the new 24-player raid instance.

And the schedule for 3.x series have always been said to be more or less the same as 2.x, so every 3 months or so, meaning 3.1 will come sometime end of September or during October.

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Originally Posted by MageBlack

Here's whats happening with the Zodiac Weapons in 3.0

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...b6&oe=55EB879D

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Poetics now?! Now that is a hard pill to swallow.

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Originally Posted by SovereignAegis

Poetics now?! Now that is a hard pill to swallow.

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If you checked the patch note, you'd realize how trivial it is to get Poetics in 3.0.

The amount of poetics has gone off the roof as in the added even more reward from dungeons.

It's daft to think that Zeta is gonna end up being just a glamour item. After spending hours months weeks farming. the more reasonable thing to do is to either exchange the weapon for a piece needed for the new relic, or worst case escenario present your weapon zeta to someone in ishgard to receive a special and unique item.

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Originally Posted by Zfz

If you checked the patch note, you'd realize how trivial it is to get Poetics in 3.0.

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Especially if you farm the "high level" dungeons with less than 4 ppl at lvl 60. 3 lvl 60s can probably steamroll that content for the poes

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Originally Posted by Mature

The amount of poetics has gone off the roof as in the added even more reward from dungeons.

It's daft to think that Zeta is gonna end up being just a glamour item. After spending hours months weeks farming. the more reasonable thing to do is to either exchange the weapon for a piece needed for the new relic, or worst case escenario present your weapon zeta to someone in ishgard to receive a special and unique item.

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In the prelim patch notes it says something about how players who got a zeta can purchase a replica. I don't know what this means though.

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Originally Posted by Mature

It's daft to think that Zeta is gonna end up being just a glamour item. After spending hours months weeks farming.

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How long did you farm for the original Relic? 24 mobs and a few errands, plus 5 trails. It could have been done in a week's time. Then after 3 weeks of normal play you get to upgrade it to the Zenith, and you have a BiS weapon that lasted until T5, i.e. end of the patch. You should not discount this benefit you got during the "hours months weeks farming".

True, if you've only started last month and rushed through it to get the zeta, you would've felt cheated because you had more trouble farming it while it never provided you with any benefit until at least the Nexus stage. Even worse if you had other weapons. But that is because you were rushing something that was a year-long content.

The benefits of the relic are already give to us. Anything in 3.1 should be regarded as extra.

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Originally Posted by Fantasy9

In the prelim patch notes it says something about how players who got a zeta can purchase a replica. I don't know what this means though.

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It's just to allow people to glamour the different stages of the relic progression. Some people, for example, prefer the Nexus glow over the Zeta glow. The replica will have very bad stats, they are purely for glamour.

And Yoshi-P verbally clarified that this replica is not the advantage or consideration that will be given to the Zeta holders. It's rather just a QoL addition.

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Originally Posted by Mature

It's daft to think that Zeta is gonna end up being just a glamour item. After spending hours months weeks farming. the more reasonable thing to do is to either exchange the weapon for a piece needed for the new relic, or worst case escenario present your weapon zeta to someone in ishgard to receive a special and unique item.

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That was a misinterpretation on my part. Zeta will still be a great weapon to have and last you through most of the 50-60 process. What I got wrong is they are having a replica of the zeta weapon you can use as a glamor that has crappy stats but the look people want. getting the actual zeta is now easier to get because it is being replaced by a newer one.