Rings

Would it be possible to make it so we can wear two of the same "Unique" rings? Like two Upgraded Ironworks rings or two Dreadwyrm Rings?

The whole point of the "Unique" status on those rings is specifically so that you CAN'T wear two, and are forced to find another kind of ring. Just a small part of the drive for getting both Ironworks and Dreadwyrm.

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Only with Glamour. Though with 2 wedding rings...

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Originally Posted by Ceodore

The whole point of the "Unique" status on those rings is specifically so that you CAN'T wear two, and are forced to find another kind of ring. Just a small part of the drive for getting both Ironworks and Dreadwyrm.

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I thought the point of the Unique trait was to keep people from selling them on the mb. I hate Coils. Like to the point that I boycott them. So being able to get two Ironworks would be great as I'm currently using Upgraded and Regular Ironworks rings. That being said I'm sure some people prefer the stats on Dreadwyrm over the stats on Ironworks and if they put enough time into Coils I think they should be allowed to wear two Dreadwyrm rings.

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Originally Posted by Ceodore

The whole point of the "Unique" status on those rings is specifically so that you CAN'T wear two, and are forced to find another kind of ring. Just a small part of the drive for getting both Ironworks and Dreadwyrm.

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Yeah, reasonable enough... Poetics and FCOB are totally at the same level, aimed just the same way at the entire playerbase... right.

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Originally Posted by Burningskull

I thought the point of the Unique trait was to keep people from selling them on the mb. I hate Coils. Like to the point that I boycott them. So being able to get two Ironworks would be great as I'm currently using Upgraded and Regular Ironworks rings. That being said I'm sure some people prefer the stats on Dreadwyrm over the stats on Ironworks and if they put enough time into Coils I think they should be allowed to wear two Dreadwyrm rings.

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The point of UNIQUE is so you can have only one. UNTRADEABLE means it can't be sold on MB. You CAN sell UNIQUE things on the MB, such as Icy/Diamond Tears and the like.
Realistically a UNIQUE(2) option wouldn't be bad, but as it stands right now the UNIQUE tag is all we have, and it DOES encourage mixing and matching. In fact, for a few jobs the BiS rings ARE NOT dreadwyrm, but are in fact either a second (non-augmented) ironworks, or a fully melded crafted ring.

Honestly the difference would be extremely negligible between wearing two 130 ironworks rings and wearing one augmented 130 ring and one regular 120 ironworks ring. If you are trying to min/max for a raid i would understand but outside of that it really won't have any substantial effect. If you are trying to get them to match you could always try glamoring them maybe.

You can have an average item level of 130 with an i120 ring. So what does it matter? Also, if you aren't doing coil, what do the extra stats matter anyway?

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Originally Posted by Dante_V

Honestly the difference would be extremely negligible between wearing two 130 ironworks rings and wearing one augmented 130 ring and one regular 120 ironworks ring. If you are trying to min/max for a raid i would understand but outside of that it really won't have any substantial effect. If you are trying to get them to match you could always try glamoring them maybe.

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Nah. wasn't trying to make them match :) Just wanted those few extra points of STR lol.

"Hey SE can we do the thing you don't want us to do for the reason you don't want us to do it please?"

Same reason the majority cares about buffs/nerfs to their jobs even tho they perform at 40-60% job efficiency.

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Originally Posted by Burningskull

Nah. wasn't trying to make them match :) Just wanted those few extra points of STR lol.

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LOL. I actually changed the race of my character for 6 extra dex on my ninja so I feel your pain.

To be fair, ring is the only slot that has this problem. No one cares that you can buy tome gear for every slot of the proper ilvl, so why single out the ring slot?

Every slot has a tome piece and a raid piece to choose from. Except rings. Rings you have to get both raid and time just to have max ilvl equipped, and zero options like every single solitary other slot.

There's a reason most games just have 1 ring slot, or they go all out and give you 2 wrist, 2 ear, 2 ring slots. It's kinda strange the way they did it tbh.

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Originally Posted by Izsha

To be fair, ring is the only slot that has this problem. No one cares that you can buy tome gear for every slot of the proper ilvl, so why single out the ring slot?

Every slot has a tome piece and a raid piece to choose from. Except rings. Rings you have to get both raid and time just to have max ilvl equipped, and zero options like every single solitary other slot.

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Having an i120 and an i130 ring doesn't keep your level from being i130. Despite having an i120 ring, my WHM's ilevel is still 130.

I dislike crit on my WHM, so I have 0 interest in the t12 ring. You don't HAVE to go get a second i130 ring from coil, it's an option if it has the stats that you want, but it's not mandatory. So even people who have access to the raids and loot might not have interest in the items that drop. I, personally, am very happy with my i120 and i130 ring.

me i'm more bothered by the space allowed to the ring in the armory system hehe... we do have the same space than any other item....expect it's for 2 item.

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Originally Posted by Burningskull

I thought the point of the Unique trait was to keep people from selling them on the mb. I hate Coils. Like to the point that I boycott them. So being able to get two Ironworks would be great as I'm currently using Upgraded and Regular Ironworks rings. That being said I'm sure some people prefer the stats on Dreadwyrm over the stats on Ironworks and if they put enough time into Coils I think they should be allowed to wear two Dreadwyrm rings.

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Then you already have enought power to deal with everything you'll ever be faced with, you are capped unless you decide to head for coil.

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Originally Posted by Burningskull

I thought the point of the Unique trait was to keep people from selling them on the mb. I hate Coils. Like to the point that I boycott them. So being able to get two Ironworks would be great as I'm currently using Upgraded and Regular Ironworks rings. That being said I'm sure some people prefer the stats on Dreadwyrm over the stats on Ironworks and if they put enough time into Coils I think they should be allowed to wear two Dreadwyrm rings.

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Perhaps, and it's a good idea. I won't knock that, because it would make doing the coils for the first time that much easier. As it stands, "hard core" players are going to play "hard core" content whether serious incentive exists or not. And "casual" players will stick to "casual" content too, despite an incentive to run "hard core" content. But, there's another reason for the unique status too, specifically on gear like dreadwyrm. If someone could just need constantly on a piece of gear, they would just have multiple pieces of gear like the dreadwyrm rings. What's the point? No more benefit beyond just having two, right? It also makes them have to pass on gear they already have so that it can fall to others who might actually need it. Of course, this system could limit certain things to only being allowed to be had twice, and you can actually get around this system by storing your current ring on your retainer and then needing on it again. But the reasons for the system, despite it being restrictive, are there.

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Originally Posted by BreathlessTao

Yeah, reasonable enough... Poetics and FCOB are totally at the same level, aimed just the same way at the entire playerbase... right.

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Never said they were. Just said that that was a reason for the unique status on them. That's not the only reason for the unique status either, but you can not deny that it is just one of the many reasons for running coils. I'm not saying it's fair to be restrictive of gear. Frankly, fair is all a matter of perspective. But you can not deny that they have their reasons. I have my reasons for not feeding my dogs chocolate and onions. They don't think it's fair, but I have my reasons.

Isn't anyone bothered by the fact we only have 2 choices?

I don't care about being ilvl 130. I meant max level in a slot. If I want a 130 wrist, I can choose between a 130 pie or a 130 DW depending on what stats I want, or if I don't raid I can just use the 130 poe. Same with body, neck, belt and every other slot.

Except rings. I don't care about 'needing' the power or whatever. It's the only slot that does not have a choice of equivalent ilvl options. Every slot is either/Or Dw/poe. Except rings.

It's just inconsistent that rings get some wierd special case scenario that no other slot has to deal with. Combined with the same inventory space but needing 2x as many, the ring slots are just needlessly annoying in general.

This game is already sorely lacking in viable equipment options. Rings really only have 1, while all others have a measly 2. It's bad enough without pidgin holing rings for no real logocal reason.

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Originally Posted by Burningskull

I thought the point of the Unique trait was to keep people from selling them on the mb.

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wrong

Unique = can only have 1 in your armory chest / inventory
Untradeable = can't sell it in the MB

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Originally Posted by Alysanne

Isn't anyone bothered by the fact we only have 2 choices?

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You have 4:
1) Augmented Ironworks
2) Non-augmented Ironworks
3) Dreadwyrm
4) Crafted

Yes, BiS for some classes IS a fully melded platinum ring.

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Originally Posted by kyuven

Yes, BiS for some classes IS a fully melded platinum ring.

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Especially depending on the fight you are doing. What was the minimum HP requirement to survive T13 again? Seriously, I don't remember. I only tank it, so I stack all the health I can without losing too much agro.

I'd love to wear two dreadwyrm rings...the poetics healer ring is pretty meh stat wise.

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Originally Posted by Ceodore

Especially depending on the fight you are doing. What was the minimum HP requirement to survive T13 again? Seriously, I don't remember. I only tank it, so I stack all the health I can without losing too much agro.

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6.2k for healers and dps, generally.

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Originally Posted by Burningskull

I hate Coils. Like to the point that I boycott them.

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What could you possibly need another fully upgraded ring for if you aren't running coil?

Rings are weird since there are only 3 rings in game ilevel 120 or higher. Ironworks, Augmented, and Dreadwyrm.

Now consider that there are 4 belts in the game ilevel 120 or higher. Ironworks, Augmented, Dreadwyrm, and Demon. One belt slot, 4 choices. Two ring slots, 3 choices. It's just weird.

I know that most serious players just do pentameld ilevel 110 crafted rings, but still. There are plenty of places in the game where an extra ring could drop. When was the last time anyone ran Chrysalis or Steps of Faith? Imagine one of those dropping a cheap and easy 120 or 125 ring.

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Originally Posted by Bhuni

What could you possibly need another fully upgraded ring for if you aren't running coil?

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To have, for the sake of having? Same reason loot drops from T13.

I want them to strip out the unique flag entirely so I can glamour jobs that use the same gear differently.

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Originally Posted by Burningskull

I hate Coils. Like to the point that I boycott them.

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Your 2nd i130 ring hates you. Like to the point that it boycotts you