Limit Breaking - General rules of?

Hello :)

Right, the Naval incident over with, I've gotten a bit braver. In lieu of this, I've been through a few dungeons now, and I'm just curious as to how to use limit breaks within a party?

I went on a few runs today and had the following conversation:

Party member: Lb.
Me: ....*happily carries on smacking things.*
Party member: DARWIN LB
Me: ....Roger! *hits button sullenly* >.>
(nobody told me this was part of my 'thing' here XD)

* as I understand it, there's ONE gauge for the entire party, right - so is it always the role of DPS to initiate it (my main class is Dragoon - so melee DPS) ?
* secondly, if this is the case, why is it me and not the other guy who has to initiate it? Are they just foisting it off onto me lol

thanks in advance :)

Limit break changes based on role of who uses it. Healer does raise/heal on everyone, melee dps is single target damage, magic dps does aoe damage, tank does defensive buff I think.

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Originally Posted by Cakekizy

Limit break changes based on role of who uses it. Healer does raise/heal on everyone, melee dps is single target damage, magic dps does aoe damage, tank does defensive buff I think.

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Yeah I got that bit thank you for the info :) My question was more along the lines of, is it expected of the DPS to use it moreso? That's the impression I've gotten from a few runs unless I'm wrong...

Unless there is something to be mitigate or your party is on the verge of wipe, dps is always expected to limit break. Though this excludes brd limit break cause lolbrdLB. In dungeon and in a decent or better run. There isnt any need for a tank or healer limit break. So the "default" option is to dps limit break.


Hope that answers your question. If not, sorry

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Originally Posted by ExiaQuanta

Unless there is something to be mitigate or your party is on the verge of wipe, dps is always expected to limit break. Though this excludes brd limit break cause lolbrdLB. In dungeon and in a decent or better run. There isnt any need for a tank or healer limit break. So the "default" option is to dps limit break.


Hope that answers your question. If not, sorry

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Nopes that's all I needed to know :) Thank you x

Because melee DPS has the strongest limit break.

Healer/tank limit breaks don't do damage so they're useless.. BRD has... healer LB who knows why.. then BLM/SMN LB are aoe, thus weaker than yours on the boss.


So yes, if you're finishing off the boss, go ahead and use it, they're not trying to boss you around, there's just no need to use a healer LB on a regular dungeon boss..

Ahhh okay, logic was never my strong point XP Unless we're in danger of wiping, no def or healing LBs are needed. And makes sense that I use it if i'm the only melee in the party. Gotcha.

I get frustrated in dungeons frequently because I still don't entirely know what I'm doing sometimes lol. Then we all run in and I'm running around after them like the village idiot. I always check with people what to do before we go into boss fights etc but it's basic stuff like this I'm missing. Cheers for the responses :)

Now, now. Healer and tank LB is hardly useless. I've saved a few dungeon runs LBing at the right time as a bard.

Buuuut yes normally melee, caster, healer, tank is the usual order, unless something specific is called for (you really don't have to worry about this for a while though.)

In general, Melee LB has the highest priority. You also don't want to save it until the boss is already at 1-2% (Because a lot of that damage will be wasted in overkill) - use it as soon as it's full, and safe to, on a given boss. If there are no melee, Caster LB should be used. If the only DPS are bards, what the heck, do whatever.

When you advance onto later content, you'll be able to LB3 instead of LB2, and a big distinction is that healer's LB3 will immediately raise everyone, which other levels of LB won't. When this happens, you generally save melee DPS until the last 4-5%, at which point it's clear you'll clear - but until then LB3 is often saved for emergency saves.

Tank LB3 and Caster LB3 are also ideal for certain boss fights for various reasons, and a handful of advanced fights will use these LBs over the standard priority for very specific situations.

Ahhh, I see so they upgrade for higher level dungeons/harder modes? Good to know. To be honest, I've been a little afraid of banging in the LBs before time. Explains why people were getting frustrated with me if I'm sat on the LB seemingly scratching my butt with my lance haha. Helpful tips thanks :)

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Originally Posted by Garlyle

In general, Melee LB has the highest priority. You also don't want to save it until the boss is already at 1-2% (Because a lot of that damage will be wasted in overkill) - use it as soon as it's full, and safe to, on a given boss. If there are no melee, Caster LB should be used. If the only DPS are bards, what the heck, do whatever.

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What Garlyle said. You really want to use it as soon as it's available (and safe to do so), because in some fights (especially endgame ones) it's possible to fill the LB gauge up more than once during the fight. The sooner you empty it, the sooner you can let it start building back up again and hopefully get another LB.

...and some boss fights will reset the LB bar to zero when the fight starts.

Melee LB: Used in most content, so be ready to use it a lot. Note that some people might take offense to you using it before the final boss (any of the LBs really, but Melee is most used.), but if you are able to get it back up to the full bar before then it doesn't actually matter that much.

Caster LB: Second most used, and any content that would have Melee LB used will have this used in its place if there is none. Some situations also see Caster LB being better than Melee (EX: During Copperbell second boss, Caster LB can pretty much immediatly wipe out the final little bits at the end, or in WoD, a LB3 caster can take out all three clouds that need to be killed if it starts before the barriers come up.)

Healer LB: Only used at LB3 for its Res ability. Take note that it rezzes people where they died, so it isn't as useful in certain situations like Titan. Bard also gets this one but its being changed for Heavensward.

Tank LB: Most underutilized, it sees the most work on new content...got to use LB3 version twice on the first day of WoD, and another time a week later...only group that survived that one, that was fun. Also apparently good for t13 at a certain point, but I haven't gotten into FCoB.

One thing to note that when you start doing any of the 24-man Crystal Tower raids (Labyrinth of the Ancients, Srycus Tower, World of Darkness) that the Limit Break resets every boss and basically every other fight in the tower is a boss. Because of this there is no point on sitting on the limit or building it to the third level in the tower outside of the final fight in World of Darkness. Once the boss is around 5% health use the melee/dps limit at whatever level it is built up at.

It's useful to learn when DPS limits can help push phases particularly efficiently, or when it's beneficial to group monsters...
Caster in Tam-Tara's final boss to drop the last wave of adds.
Caster in Haukke's final boss to drop the last wave of adds.
Melee in Qarn's Golem when the soulstone is shattered.
Caster in the last leg of Wanderer's Palace after the whole hall is pulled.
Melee in Halatali Hard's second boss to kill a Catobeplas' eye (if your team is undergeared and can't rush it).
Caster in Sastasha Hard's second boss to kill the enormous cluster of adds, or in the last leg to clear the whole hall.
Melee in Qarn Hard's second boss to kill the Sabotender Guardianguy.

These are just dungeon examples of when it's an excellent utility instead of a flashy killshot. Always circumstantial, since overgeared parties are common, but always possible and justified when the time's right.

Another reason to use the LB as soon as possible is that you reach 20% life threshold faster for all the special attacks (Misery's End, Assassinate, Mercy Stroke, etc...). This increases the DPS rate of all party members using these attacks.