Any SCH related macros i should be using?

I'm on a Controller (PC, just prefer controllers), and just am wondering if there are any macros I should be using. Pseudo-new to this thing, SCH that is, so any help is appreciaated.

/pac macros so you don't need the pet crossbar. Like "/pac "Whispering Dawn" pet Eos" and whatnot. I think that's the syntax at least.

<tt> ones work quite well especially in dungeons
e.g. /ac bio <t>
/pac embrace<tt>
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/ac ruin <t>
/pac embrace <tt> you can spam ruin with eos/selene healing regardless of targets hp%

I know some people like to pair rouse + whispering dawn together


I also used to have a macro for pvp which would make the fairy follow a target and continue to heal them, you can do it with signs if party dont mind them, or using the Pn macro to focus a party member and spam them with embrace. Just replace the <t> with P1 for player in first slot.

If you want to get used to having selene on obey and forget to switch the buffs when they come off, the /echo command helped an fc member with remembering to do it.

Good luck welcome to team sch :)

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Originally Posted by File2ish

/pac macros so you don't need the pet crossbar. Like "/pac "Whispering Dawn" pet Eos" and whatnot. I think that's the syntax at least.

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Macroing both pets abilitys together is also a good idea so your only using 4 slots on your hotbar instead of 8.

Newbie scholars like to macro physik and embrace together and while its not a terrible idea at first, in the long run you will want to learn to control your pets heals manually.

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If you want to get used to having selene on obey and forget to switch the buffs when they come off, the /echo command helped an fc member with remembering to do it

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This is really useful advice, in hectic fights its easy to forget to use the next buff.

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Originally Posted by Kitano123

Macroing both pets abilitys together is also a good idea so your only using 4 slots on your hotbar instead of 8.

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One problem with this:
1) /macroicon only works for one (pet) ability
2) because /macroicon works on only one ability, you can't see when it's off CD for the other you have paired with it

It's more advised to set the macro on your summoning, rather than the ability themself:
/action "Summon"
/hotbar pet “action name” “pet name” [hotbar number] [hotbar slot]

^for example

I do not recommend any macros except for pet placement etc., as they are slow and can't be queued up. I suggest using the 3rd minibar from L2+R2, all your skills will fit

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Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine

One problem with this:
1) /macroicon only works for one (pet) ability
2) because /macroicon works on only one ability, you can't see when it's off CD for the other you have paired with it

It's more advised to set the macro on your summoning, rather than the ability themself:
/action "Summon"
/hotbar pet “action name” “pet name” [hotbar number] [hotbar slot]

^for example

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I never thought of that, thanks!

/macroicon "Fey Covenant" pet Eos
/pac Steady
/pac Guard
/pac "Fey Covenant" <wait>
/pac "Fey Covenant"

I use these for all of Eos's Skills (Whispering Dawn and Fey Illumination), and I am not sure how people don't. Often if she is moving or casting and you just hit a skill, it doesn't go off right away and you have to button mash. Swapping her from steady to guard or vice versa interrupts whatever she is doing and the she does what you want her to do immediately.

The Steady/Guard interrupts were broken in 2.5, so they do not work correctly anymore. I would recommend using spam macros for faerie commands for the moment.

Other than that, macros tend to be a bad idea IMO. The only ones I now use are Mouse-over commands added to Lustrate and Embrace, and a line added to each of my dps skills that makes me auto face my target before casting.

The Steady/Guard interrupts still work - I never noticed it not working, and just tested myself - it works.

That being said, the interrupt macro to get off those skills serves a very definite purpose. In general I would agree that macros are a bad idea and you want as few as possible as they tend to reduce your options during play.

http://verdictffxiv.weebly.com/the-b...de-around.html

I got alot of my macro ideas from this guide^. Also never macro embrace leave it alone.

I only use one, which is for Eos (Rouse + Fey Covenant + Whispering Dawn) which usually works out fine for me, but sometimes I have to click it a few more times if she refuses to use Whispering Dawn. Though she's usually pretty good about it.

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Originally Posted by Sidra

The Steady/Guard interrupts still work - I never noticed it not working, and just tested myself - it works.

That being said, the interrupt macro to get off those skills serves a very definite purpose. In general I would agree that macros are a bad idea and you want as few as possible as they tend to reduce your options during play.

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The interrupt works - if no target is below 80%.
If fairy starts auto-casting at <80% and you do steady/guard thingy, the fairy will stop, but instantly recast embrace onto that target, you will not get her to do another action, you're only losing time.

That is what I meant. They do not function correctly if there are any targets below 80%, so I now just use the spam macros for faerie abilities.

I avoid macros out right and instead use a general healing hotbar, dedicated healing hotbar with Eos abilities where I feel them comfortable and a DPS hotbar.

It is entirely possible to play SCH effectively on a controller without them, but it does require more coordination I guess?

It is entirely possible to do content competently as a sch without them but their are times when you may need/want to ruin spam. Ruin spamming and making sure eos/selene is still healing regardless of hp<80% without a macro is more trouble than it is worth. Drop the whole I dont need macro 'pride' and dont feel embarrassed to use them

Not really pride though. I must dps differently from other SCH because I don't ruin spam often and usually on in dungeons when there is too much down time when healing isn't needed. That said, I keep lustrate a main stay on my DPS bar and have few occasions where I sub out a lesser used ability for embrace to still control this manually. Otherwise I am just tossing DoTs and bane accordingly.

If I am that concerned about about healing during during moments that is become negligible, I would just remove Cleric Stance, switch to a healing hotbar, toss a adlo the go back to stance dancing without missing a beat.

That's cool, but dpsing as a SCH should be approached in a similar way to SMN.

DOT fill what you can with ruins, if you can get eos/selene to continiiously embrace, it just extends the time you can spend dpsing.

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Originally Posted by Sylkis

I do not recommend any macros except for pet placement etc., as they are slow and can't be queued up. I suggest using the 3rd minibar from L2+R2, all your skills will fit

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Not true unless you're macroing multiple skills at once.
If you macro, let's say, physick with embrace. There is no delay because both skills are instant cast and being casted by 2 seperate entities (when you start casting physick eos will immediately cast embrace along with you and not afterwards). Sure they can't be queued up but you rarely need to queue up your heals anyways.

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Originally Posted by VitalSuit

Not true unless you're macroing multiple skills at once.
If you macro, let's say, physick with embrace. There is no delay because both skills are instant cast and being casted by 2 seperate entities (when you start casting physick eos will immediately cast embrace along with you and not afterwards). Sure they can't be queued up but you rarely need to queue up your heals anyways.

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I still find it annoying myself though, that I can't queue up my next heal when I am trying to heal different targets if I set my heals to macros. They use to be, but they annoyed me so I tossed the macros.

Being a PC user and a heavy dps healer I use macros all the time.

Macroing Embrace with Leeches is wonderful imo. It allows you to take off debuffs like poison and heal them at the same time.

DPS spells are great to have macro'd with both <t> and <tt> so you can either dps solo or while targeting the tank or anyone else taking heavy damage. It allows for easy dps in times when you don't want to take the chance of switching targets.

Using a <mo> for embrace and a <t> for heals lets you heal your primary by themselves or two targets at a time (I find using <mo> soley on heals more tricky so I <t> heal)

Not to mention switching your actual summons to macros to swap out your pet skills on your hotbar.

And if your a confident dpsing healer you can swap your bars with macros to make switching between and dps and a healer hotbar. Cleric stance is great for this.

Having a Swiftcast Resurrection macro is always a good thing, and be sure to put in a /p msg so the other healer doesn't waste a swiftcast. Its annoying when the other healer just swiftcast raises without warning making you pop your swiftcast during their delay and you both wasting it.

Whether or not you use macros depends on your comfortability with the job. Some swear by them, some hate them with a passion (as previous posts have shown). Whatever allows you to control your pet and maximize your own performance should be the goal. Don't let other ppls nasty opinions make you feel lesser.

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Originally Posted by Spoekes

The interrupt works - if no target is below 80%.
If fairy starts auto-casting at <80% and you do steady/guard thingy, the fairy will stop, but instantly recast embrace onto that target, you will not get her to do another action, you're only losing time.

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Last time I checked, Whispering Dawn worked with Steady/Guard interrupts just fine, but the other two skills didn't if someone in range was under 80%.

For the OP, I wrote a guide that is primarily about fairies. There are a lot of macros there. I also discuss my targeting macros in the end. As a fellow controller player, they may be helpful for you. The URL for the guide is in my signature.

As for other macros, I use several space saving macros to basically put multiple skills on the same button.
Swiftcast/Res
Energy Drain / Aetherflow
Heel / Place
I also have Rouse macro'd with Whispering Dawn.

As for seeing your cooldowns (like Selene's stuff if you have macros doing double duty), you can set a hotbar on the screen and put whatever you want on there to see the cooldowns. It is super nice.

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Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline

I'm on a Controller (PC, just prefer controllers), and just am wondering if there are any macros I should be using. Pseudo-new to this thing, SCH that is, so any help is appreciaated.

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I have one that uses Bio2 and Bio right after. I really use it to save space on the hotbar, but its handy for when I'm in Cleric Stance. One button, two actions.

/ac bio2 <t>
wait 1
/ac bio <t>

or something like that

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Originally Posted by dayspring83

I have one that uses Bio2 and Bio right after. I really use it to save space on the hotbar, but its handy for when I'm in Cleric Stance. One button, two actions.

/ac bio2 <t>
wait 1
/ac bio <t>

or something like that

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Do not do this, ever. It is just bad. Never macro DPS skills together.

I use this macro:

/micon "Fey Illumination"
/pac "Fey Illumination"
/ac succor

As Fey Illumination is instant, Eos casts it and you charge your succor. When you use the magic, you heal for 1000 with a crit.

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Originally Posted by Roxas_Andrade

I use this macro:

/micon "Fey Illumination"
/pac "Fey Illumination"
/ac succor

As Fey Illumination is instant, Eos casts it and you charge your succor. When you use the magic, you heal for 1000 with a crit.

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That is about as good as leaving Eos on Sic. Fey Illumination is very potent (especially in an 8-man with a WHM) and it has a 120 second cooldown. It should be saved for when it is truly needed.