Please adjust the drop rates or return value for Triple Triad Cards

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We can't trade cards with others so doubles is pointless.
We have limits on cards we can use so "powering up" after a 60 is pointless.

The cost of Gold Triad Card packs is 2160

I just spent 172,800 MGP in an attempt to get a single card without success.

Do I think cards should be handed to players? No, but either the rare rates need to be increased or the return value on the cards needs to be increased.

For gold packs the majority of the time you will get 10 MGP back for a 2160 MGP investment. That's 0.46% return for your cards. I think an acceptable return would be about 10% considering again that WE CAN'T TRADE THESE CARDS WITH ANYONE AND THEY SERVE NO OTHER PURPOSE THAN TO BE A MGP SINK!

MGP sinks are fine but this is abysmal and disheartening for Triple Triad enthusiasts who really want to complete the sets. It shouldn't require the same amount of effort to buy Cloud to get the cards we want from Packs and Dungeons.



Edit: Another potential idea is a card trade counter either with NPCs or PCs but though NPCs. Example. I got a warrior of light in that screenshot but I already have one. Thus it is worthless to me aside from 600 MGP (27% of the pack value...) I could take it to this trade counter and list it up with what I hope to get for it (Zidane). Make it require cards of the same rarity level. IE Plat background card for plat background card. 5 star normal for 5 star normal etc etc.

To second this, please adjust drop rates on NPC's as well.

I have beaten Tataru some 500 - 600 times now, and not a single speck of my Lightning card. This is getting beyond ridiculous. There's also the guy who did like 1000 runs of Dragon's Neck for his Terra card.

I get that it's RNG, and it's supposed to be 5*, but there needs to be a cap on the acquisition of these cards as well.

The RNG in this game is absolute trash. People who don't care end up getting it on their first try, and people who want to play the game get shafted with bad luck. And I hear people say "it makes the grind more enjoyable when you finish". That is absolute bullshit. The only feeling you get after being shafted and having to do 10x more runs then the average person is frustration and anger, and questioning why you even play this game. And then to have the gall to make tournaments that depend on the quality of your cards.

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Originally Posted by Nel_Celestine

I think an acceptable return would be about 10% considering again that WE CAN'T TRADE THESE CARDS WITH ANYONE AND THEY SERVE NO OTHER PURPOSE THAN TO BE A MGP SINK!

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if every 1 star or 2 star card gives 20 times of their points you could nearly double the amount of mgp earned from the garlean per hour

i think thats way too much

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

if every 1 star or 2 star card gives 20 times of their points you could nearly double the amount of mgp earned from the garlean per hour

i think thats way too much

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Then they could change it so only the cards from the packs themselves are worth more on return. The RNG and MGP sink is way over tuned for these boosters. If I bought 80 TCG packs in real life, I'd have better odds of getting the single card I wanted and relative trade in value that would at least equate to half the cost of the packs.

Gold pack should be around 1000 MGP, not more than 2000. That would be quite fair.

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Originally Posted by PotatoTree

The RNG in this game is absolute trash. People who don't care end up getting it on their first try, and people who want to play the game get shafted with bad luck.

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A friend of mine got the Terra card on her very first run of Dragon's Neck, without knowing the place dropped a card. I only did a couple of farm groups where nobody seemed to get the card before I called it quits.

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Originally Posted by Rufalus

A friend of mine got the Terra card on her very first run of Dragon's Neck, without knowing the place dropped a card. I only did a couple of farm groups where nobody seemed to get the card before I called it quits.

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0/250 runs of dragon's neck now for my Terra Card.

I'm all for the drop rates being adjusted or the card value being increased. I got two Shivas in a row from two tournament reward platinum packs, which meant I essentially got a Shiva and 200 MGP which isn't enough for anything given that a bronze pack costs 2.5 times that. A platinum rarity card should at least be worth the price of a bronze pack card. It's even worse for some of the other cards that are rare drops from early dungeons. And there's nothing worse than getting a bronze card as a drop from something, because they're not even worth the trip over to the card counter to sell.....

I'm personally fond of the OP's edited in idea of an actual exchange counter where we can trade in a few old cards we don't need for a card we actually want, with the amount we need based on the rarity of the cards we trade in.....

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Originally Posted by PotatoTree

The RNG in this game is absolute trash.

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couldnt have said it better myself

I feel your pain with Zidane. I'm at 73/80 cards and have spent at least 300k MGP on gold packs with no luck. I was farming WoD with a friend for a long time because she wanted gear and I wanted the card. She got like 26 Onion Knights before I got 1 and she doesn't even play Triple Triad. I still cry sometimes.

i second this.

Currently im at 855k mgp total earned, bought the minions + Adamantoise, rest is spent on lottery tickets + Gold packs. Last week I managed to get Zidane...
So about 500k for it and assuming it'll take at least another 500k for WoL.

I'll quote what I put in the abolish random thread. But yea agree with the OP 100% on the trade-in value's as well as cost. Not only that since we cannot lose cards or trade them, there's almost no point in having duplicates or to make them have such low monetary value.

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IMO the real hard part of TT is the actual obtaining of the cards when it comes down to it. Poor RNG reward of cards from winning TT matches along with poor MGP trade in/buy ratio values are the present issue.
Example: Go play the imperial 300 matches for a single Gaius card and you come out with around 27000MGP and then trade in the 40 Livia & Rhit cards for 10MGP and the 20 Nero for 50MGP and you get a small bonus of 1800MGP (not even enough to buy a single gold booster). A total of about 28800MGP~. Sure that's enough MGP to buy a minion/barding/few other things. But looking at it from the TT side of the MGP pool it's nothing. Now you can take all that MGP and buy around 12 gold booster packs in hopes of Zidane/WoL. Instead you get about 5 Miounne/Gerolt and another 3 Momodi, and 4 Tenfingers. Trade all those cards back in for 10MGP each and you got back a whopping 120MGP. Who knows tho you could have gotten super lucky and gotten Cid/Ultima but if you already have those cards then you get back only an extra 200MGP added. Not even enough to buy another booster pack.

The game is meant to be a fun side challenge but it's turned into a super heavy RNG grind challenge. The NPCs are fine in all honesty, they offer a challenge and aren't impossible or insanely difficult to beat. The cards however imo should not be heavily RNG obtained when they have little to no MGP value, let alone even the 4/5 star cards since we can only use 1 of them at a time in a deck. It would be nice if the TT game implemented the pick a card that you flipped if you win the match/obtain all the opponents cards if you flipped them all feature. That feature would not make/break the game at all, and it would allow players to pick cards and greatly help them in building up their decks. The Platinum cards can still keep the hard to obtain function but not as heavy as it is atm, Plat booster packs have them but at low % RNG. The instance fights have them but could increase the RNG because 40-70 fights is a bit much. And even with NPC's by making it where the NPC doesn't use the Plat card 100% of the time in the deck so people couldn't farm that card specifically for MGP gain. But allowing us to always pick one of the cards that give us 5mgp-200 MPG is not a game breaker when it comes to earning MGP. Let alone since players are spending around 2,160 MGP per gold pack with a 95% chance to obtain a card with a 10 MGP value turn in.

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Finally got my Zidane card. Took a total of 217 packs of cards overall. That's more than the price of Nanamo.

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Originally Posted by Nel_Celestine

Finally got my Zidane card. Took a total of 217 packs of cards overall. That's more than the price of Nanamo.

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took me 380 packs for zidane, then I got 2 nearly in a row :p

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

took me 380 packs for zidane, then I got 2 nearly in a row :p

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I still feel there is something wrong with the trade in value or drops on cards over all. The Edit with a trade counter would solve a lot of this issue.

I gave up on tt a long time ago. It was fun at first, but after 1,000 runs for that one guy everyone talks about finally getting his Terra card and 100+ runs for me to get mine, and 20 runs of praetorium and 500 wins of indolent imperial with no gaius card....yeah. The straw that broke the camels back was trying to que for battle in the big keep and waiting an hour as heals for a chance at the bartz card and my queue never popped. People aren't even queuing for these instances anymore. I dunno if more people gave up on tt or what. My deck sits at 55 and it'll stay there because I don't feel like wasting a month of subscription time trying for a bartz card.

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Originally Posted by Nel_Celestine

I still feel there is something wrong with the trade in value or drops on cards over all. The Edit with a trade counter would solve a lot of this issue.

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i think its intended that zidane/wol cost about 500k to 1m mgp each like the cloud card

got my 4th zidane card on a twink today ..lol