Race-related skill or God-related skill?

I'd like to discuss these topics:
How would you guys like a Racial skill? You could earn it at lower levels and it would be story-related, maybe to your clan, the village where you grew up or something?
And what about a Godly skill? Not Rage of Halone, I'm talking about a skill related to the deity you choose at the beggining. It could be a high level mission and you would know more about your protector or something...

Obviously, these skills would be independent of class/job and you would be able to use them with any class. IMO, this would improve the way we customize our characters...

I always thought they should work with the deity choice a bit more so it has impact.

For example.

Halone's Fury - Passive. Increases DEX/STR by 2%.
Menphina's Love - Passive. Increases Def/Mdef by 10%.
Thaliak's Wisdom - Passive. Increases INT/MND by 2%.
Nymeia's Fate - Increases Crit chance by 10% for 10 seconds. Recast 15m.
Lymlaen's Direction - Passive. Reduces teleport and transportation fees by 50%.
Oschon's Journey - Passive. Increases move speed by 2%.
Byregot's Touch - Passive. Reduces the CP cost for all DoH skills by 5%.
Rhalgr's Wrath - Increases all damage by 10% for 10s. Recast 15m.
Azeyma's Warmth - Passive. Increases HP/MP regeneration by 10% out of combat/5% in combat.
Nald'thal's Gift - Passive. Increases gil from items sold to NPCs by 5%.
Nophica's Care - Passive. Reduces GP cost for all DoL skills by 5%.
Althyk's Control - Resets all active skill cool downs. Recast 10m.

These are purely examples. They are not supposed to be balanced.

Balancing would be a nightmare, there will always be a meta on what race or diety you're supposed to get this anyone not falling into that category would end up being alienated in one way or another.

To be honest, if majority of our community can't even see that whm and sch both have pros and cons and one doesnt necessarily have an advantage over the other. Or if healers should dps or not. Or always piting the 3 melee dps against each other instead of realizing that they all bring something to the party that compliments the party in some way, how would this community handle race skills? "God" skills? Yea....it's gonna be a nightmare here in the forums.

Yeah...don't get me wrong I'd love to have Race/Tribe/Diety based strengths and weaknesses...but I'm not holding my breath.

It would reduce customization by adding incentive for people to pick optimal racials for their chosen job.

The racial stat bonuses in place right now don't get (much) complaint because the differences are very small and are mostly a matter of flavor.

Adding more variety is a good idea, but anything that locks players into sub-optimal performance, short of re-rolling entirely, will make people unhappy.

I would like to see something like this (mostly considering the deity side of things, but applies to races too), but just to point out some of the obvious things the devs would have to tackle,

1. If the skills were more useful to one job/role than another, difficulty in switching would push people to run one specific job more often.

2. You would have to be able to switch deities on (at least) all characters rolled up until this point so people aren't screwed over on the deity they chose when it didn't matter.

3. can't have anything over/underpowered relative to each other

Also, 12 unique skills is quite a few to balance to each other, so keeping them unique may also be difficult. I mean, I'm sure they could come up with things, but one way or another I feel like there would be a big push for either switching deity at the drop of a hat or an increased push by the devs to get people to play one job primarily.

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Originally Posted by ClaireAbigail

Balancing would be a nightmare, there will always be a meta on what race or diety you're supposed to get this anyone not falling into that category would end up being alienated in one way or another..

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I see what you're talking. But maybe we don't need a skill then (T-T)
How about the quests? I think a storyline with the deity you choose to protect or represent would be awesome!! You could get a title and a full costume for glamour then. People could be the "Paladin of Halone" or the "Scholar of Althyk" or other title that isn't job-related...
We could have a title or a costume for races too, other than that Lv.1 we start the game with...

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Originally Posted by Roxas_Andrade

I see what you're talking. But maybe we don't need a skill then (T-T)
How about the quests? I think a storyline with the deity you choose to protect or represent would be awesome!! You could get a title and a full costume for glamour then. People could be the "Paladin of Halone" or the "Scholar of Althyk" or other title that isn't job-related...
We could have a title or a costume for races too, other than that Lv.1 we start the game with...

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That would be awesome imo!

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Originally Posted by Roxas_Andrade

I see what you're talking. But maybe we don't need a skill then (T-T)
How about the quests? I think a storyline with the deity you choose to protect or represent would be awesome!! You could get a title and a full costume for glamour then. People could be the "Paladin of Halone" or the "Scholar of Althyk" or other title that isn't job-related...
We could have a title or a costume for races too, other than that Lv.1 we start the game with...

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This would be nice, do a handful of quests, like say 1-5 total, where the first 4 are the same, and whatever Guardian Deity you have determines the last. Kind of like in 1.23 you could go /pray to certain stones and when you got to your guardian's you got a vanity ring for it. Making it a title, even a "customizable" title, like <class> of <Guardian>, or something like Defender/Sword/etc of <Guardian>. I'd like to have "The Sword of Oschon" as my title, but I'm happy with "The Sword of La Noscea" for now...

Deitys are two for every element so it could be a skill that buff defense/damage against that element, A light gathering bonus to your deity element crystals.

While for races skill, it could be something non-combat. Like miqo'tes sun doing higher jumps while miqo'tes moon getting less damage from falling. Highlanders a longer sprint. Seawolves faster regenarating TP/MP/HP near the sea/water while hellguards in mountains area and hot places. Plainfolks can have two minions at the same time XD and so on..

I wouldn't mind having a deity specific skill based on which one you chose, though if they included this, they would also need to include the option to change your deity, and thus the skill you have access to. Over time people change from loving one type of class to another, and being stuck with a deity skill that increases magic damage for 30 seconds would be useless to a Warrior, as would a TP regeneration skill to a caster. Still, make it so you can only have one available at a time, and maybe you have to use Grand Company seals to change it, such as when you reset your skill points, (plus it would give us more use for Grand Company seals late game beyond buying Ventures).....

EDIT: That being said, I see no reason for racial skills. That would break the balance of the game, as everyone would determine that certain races are indisputably better for certain roles based on said skills, and should your skill be useless to your play style you would have to use a fantasia to completely recreate your character's identity just to get one you found more useful. Racial benefits were always one of the most annoying aspects of games like The Elder Scrolls, as they meant you either played with a race based on what was better for your style, or you played with one you liked the looks of and sacrificed a lot of your potential. As is, there are slight racial benefits, but they're ultimately minor. Unique abilities would not be minor by any means however.....

Definitly it would be interesting to have diverse status affected by choice of Race & Deity. I think it has a touch of its own, though I think many will hate the idea.. because simple they want to be everything in the same time! So making a certain skill/buff related upon Race/Diety will probably give them a heart attack because they cannot Pokemon them (gotta have them all).

Wish there was more lore on those gods. They're never mentioned in the story, and we never see them...lol

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Originally Posted by Greven

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I like the Highlander one only because I'm a highlander, but that's pretty unfair. I think the only one that was really... "balanced" was the Plainsfolk one.

I would not mind seeing different races have different skills, as long as those wre purely vanity based, and had no effect on stats or combat. for example:

Miqo'tes: (SUSHI!): can eat raw fish. when eaten, gains buff called "fishy breath" where trails of green smoke come from mouth.
lalafell: (CUDDLES!) when skill is active, npc's and characters within 5 yds involuntarily use the /pet emote on player. lasts 5 secs
Hyur:(BRAVER): while skill is active, player looks 50% braver in the face of danger.
Roegadyn: passive: gets seasick 50% less while on boats.

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Originally Posted by tocsin

I would not mind seeing different races have different skills, as long as those wre purely vanity based, and had no effect on stats or combat. for example:

Miqo'tes: (SUSHI!): can eat raw fish. when eaten, gains buff called "fishy breath" where trails of green smoke come from mouth.
lalafell: (CUDDLES!) when skill is active, npc's and characters within 5 yds involuntarily use the /pet emote on player. lasts 5 secs
Hyur:(BRAVER): while skill is active, player looks 50% braver in the face of danger.
Roegadyn: passive: gets seasick 50% less while on boats.

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I like all of these except for the Miqo'tes one. They should have a passive ability that makes it so they have a perpetual frown when they're either in rain or standing in water, unless they use the smile emote which only lasts for a few moments.....