What support classes do you suppose will be necessary for the new machinist?
Machinist additional classes?
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05-05-2015, 06:34 AMLomeyMachinist additional classes?
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05-05-2015, 06:40 AMlyndwyrm
My hope is for archer and rogue. Although, lancer is likely to be one of them (and hopefully) if machinist doesn't have its own TP restoration ability.
If most the new skills in heavensward are gotten through quests though, they might be moving away from the cross-class system. They could just as easily not, but currently all abilities obtained through quests are unique to that class/job. -
05-05-2015, 06:52 AMSleigh
I speculate Archer and Lancer based on current trends. It'll be majorly disappointing if it's boring old Lancer + Pugilist like they gave NIN and BRD, the other two DEX classes, but it could unfortunately happen.
Though as the person above mentions, they could change it up in 3.0, or Machinist might have its own TP restoration traits/ability that make Invigorate not needed on a TP user DPS for once. -
05-05-2015, 06:59 AMVelox
It's probably going to be rogue due to none of the existing classes being able to borrow from rogue skills.
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05-05-2015, 09:33 AMZophar
I'd wager on archer and lancer personally. They tend to give jobs at least at least 1 that kinda fits with the job of choice. CNJ and BLM getting ACN, ROG getting PUG, MRD getting GLA and vice versa. ARC seems like a good fit for MCN, and, as has already been stated multiple times, if they don't have their own TP restore, well, they're going to need LNC for invigorate, as SE's trend seems to be endgame that pushes tp management to the absolute breaking point. It could be ROG. That would be hugely disappointing though, as the ROG cross class skills are probably the most blah cross class skills out there. I'm kinda hoping they might add a third cross class to each job, as most jobs already have as many useful skills as they can possible have from their current available classes (looking at you smn).
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05-05-2015, 12:07 PMPetiteMalFleur
Hawk's eye on another dex class. I'd love this but I doubt they do it. Lancer and rogue is my bet. Another goad please.
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05-05-2015, 12:36 PMDervy
Archer and Rogue is what I suspect.
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05-05-2015, 01:17 PMIromi
It is a stand alone job..so, none would be my guess. I suspect they are changing things up quite a bit like they said at nico nico..and we will find out more in the middle of May, at the live letter in France :)
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05-05-2015, 01:21 PMrjspencer4
None, because it won't have a base or secondary class.
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05-05-2015, 02:12 PMSleighJobs don't give cross-classes but they do receive them, so that's pretty improbable.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjspencer4
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05-05-2015, 03:40 PMZophar
See no reason for "none" Classes and jobs work different as far as cross class skills are concerned. Classes get cross class options from all other classes. Jobs, only get options from 2. See no reason the new jobs should work different. As for whether or not they'll GIVE cross class abilities, well, that's another thing entirely.
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05-05-2015, 06:07 PMKages
My bet is archer/rogue, as no other class up to this point has rogue skills as cross class skills and archer seems obvious in my opinion.
Machinist may very well get an own TP-regeneration skill, while gaining access to goad.
New jobs getting no cross class skills at all seems kind of unlikely too considering that the cross class system would have to be removed from every other job aswell, because the new jobs would miss a whole lot of five skills otherwise, all of which can be VERY useful. It would just be a disadvantage while playing the new jobs, except if SE is capable of somehow compensating it. -
05-05-2015, 06:49 PMOMEGA_HACK
I seriously hope they do NOT get LNC. Tired of so many classes/jobs leeching off my main! D:<
Kind of kidding there, but seriously I think it will be Rogue (no one has it yet, I could also see DRK getting Rogue and Marauder)
Cross-class skills for Machinist would be:
Perfect Dodge (dodge 1 attack)
Kiss of the Wasp (+5% dmg)
Mutilate (DoT)
Goad (TP regen)
Jugulate (silence)
Raging Strikes (+20% dmg for 20s)
Hawk's Eye (+20% acc for 20s)
Quelling Strikes (-enmity gain)
Barrage (2 attacks per auto-attack for 10s) <=This needs to be added to cross-class! -
05-06-2015, 02:29 AMZopharWell, this is one of those things where it, literally, requires it's own tp self restore if it doesn't have invigorate. And that is mostly SE's fault. Anyone who's done final as a melee knows how necessary riding invigorate timer is. Even if you have a brd, Paeon is not quite enough. Especially if there's any possibility of Ballad being needed at some point instead. If they go back to how things were in second coil (excluding T8) it can work. But these very long, 100% uptime bosses are punishing on tp. But hey. Who knows what kinds of crazy techniques they have in mind for MCN. We'll have to wait and see.Quote:
Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK
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05-06-2015, 02:33 AMZopharOh, also, I dunno if you realize or not, but only 5 of those abilities are actual cross class abilities. Cross class skills from ROG are Goad, Perfect Dodge, and Death Blossom. Blah, honestly doesn't even begin to describe that set.Quote:
Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK
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05-06-2015, 02:44 AMDervyQuote:
Originally Posted by Iromi
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Originally Posted by rjspencer4
The new Jobs will also be receiving the Cross-Classes. Was in an interview/LiveLetter/Event or something with YoshiP a few months back. I doubt any of DRK/AST/MCH skills will be available to other Jobs however.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zophar