Dragoons are overpowered

after getting buff after buff in almost every patch update, now dragoons are too powerful.

in PvE content they're doing highest damage compared to any DPS jobs.

in PvP, they can win against almost every job in a fairly 1 on 1 situation.

in the upcoming Heavensward they're being featured as some kind of a poster boy.

please treat every job equally.

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Shhhhh.

Just let it happen. Bask in the greatness of your Dragon overlords. Let it wash over you.

Classes are fairly well balanced in this game in terms of DPS, if you're getting spanked by every Dragoon you play with maybe you're not playing properly yourself?

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Well, yes, Dragoon is actually relevant now compared to being the laughingstock of the game for a little over a year. Overpowered? That's going a bit far. :rolleyes: I'm just expecting fun things from this thread.

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Love how half the responses are popcorn eating.

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DRG is not overpower. Also, if you not know, monk is the DPS king,so you want nerf it too? all meeles is balanced, there is nothing wrong.

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I fully support a DRG nerf, possibly a job trait that gives them a 10% chance of instant death from using a GCD skill.

As a NIN, if a DRG is heavily outparsing you, problem isn't with DRG. It's in the mirror XD

NIN and DRG are pretty close, MNK still pulls ahead depending on the fight. It's pretty balanced. One thing DRG is missing tho, is a viable party wide utility like NIN and MNK have.

DRG needed to be brought upto the level they are at because they were being overlooked for content. Being blocked from content because your preffered job is underperforming in compariso is a balance fail. It was fixed, deal with it. BTW, I don't play DRG, I could see the problems without having to.

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

I fully support a DRG nerf, possibly a job trait that gives them a 10% chance of instant death from using a GCD skill.

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They already do, it's called jump but for some DRGs it's much higher than 10% :P

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Originally Posted by Evangela

in PvP, they can win against almost every job in a fairly 1 on 1 situation.

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They have a glaring advantage in their overall kit, which is exactly why this game will never attract the PvP crowd in the millions, but thank goodness majority of DRG mains are not exactly the brightest bulb on the sidewalk.

DRG is anything but overpowered; just easier to use effectively than the competing melee dps classes (MNK has to manage stacks and NIN gets screwed if you mess up mudras).

Maybe you need to start looking @ how you're playing TC, though I have a good feeling that this is like those healer troll topics "SCH too op plz nerf. WHM too gimp"

I'd love to know what all these buffs were... cause I really don't remember lancer getting any that weren't also shared with other classes. Only largely lancer-centric buff I can recall was the rebalancing of medium armor defense stats to give it a bit more magic survivability. That was more a PvE buff, though, given how the going joke was that if a mouse farted on a distant hill, the wind alone would kill a lancer. But hey, maybe you just don't have your mouse minion yet to kill the lancer for you.

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

I'd love to know what all these buffs were... cause I really don't remember lancer getting any that weren't also shared with other classes. Only largely lancer-centric buff I can recall was the rebalancing of medium armor defense stats to give it a bit more magic survivability. That was more a PvE buff, though, given how the going joke was that if a mouse farted on a distant hill, the wind alone would kill a lancer. But hey, maybe you just don't have your mouse minion yet to kill the lancer for you.

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They got a good several changes in a previous patch, removing the positional requirement from a lot of their abilities and increasing potency/decreasing cooldowns to bring them more in-line with MNK and NIN.

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Originally Posted by Kuurei

They got a good several changes in a previous patch, removing the positional requirement from a lot of their abilities and increasing potency/decreasing cooldowns to bring them more in-line with MNK and NIN.

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Ah yes, that. Hmm, that was still another PvE buff, though, given some of the new mechanics dungeons and bosses have been getting. As has been said, the focus of this game isn't PvP, it's PvE and in this regard lancer hasn't really changed because everyone else has also enjoyed similar buffs.

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

I'd love to know what all these buffs were... cause I really don't remember lancer getting any that weren't also shared with other classes. Only largely lancer-centric buff I can recall was the rebalancing of medium armor defense stats to give it a bit more magic survivability. That was more a PvE buff, though, given how the going joke was that if a mouse farted on a distant hill, the wind alone would kill a lancer. But hey, maybe you just don't have your mouse minion yet to kill the lancer for you.

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That same mouse fart interrupts a BLM spell cast in PvP, DRG isn't the only job that has weaknesses.

The other buff for DRG that you are missing is the decrease in reliance of positions for damage.

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Welp, this'll be a good show.

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I don't really have a DRG-related comment to your post. I just wanted to tell you that your sig just drove me insane for a moment. *need to squish*

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On topically, in a general opinion to express... I have to agree with what someone else said. DRG has been treated as the laughing stock for a long time - including by the devs with the fun 8-bit version of Titan HM. I think it's a nice return in exchange.

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On topically, in a general opinion to express... I have to agree with what someone else said. DRG has been treated as the laughing stock for a long time - including by the devs with the fun 8-bit version of Titan HM. I think it's a nice return in exchange.

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Titan didn't give the short straw to DRG by a long shot, it's much rougher for a caster. Tank just has to stand there and manage mitigation, bard loses minimal dps running around. MNK and DRG lose a little from positionals due to stacking, but casters have a much more intense fight with most of the spells having cast times.

I gave the OP a charity "like." I feel like being a good person today.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

in PvE content they're doing highest damage compared to any DPS jobs.

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obviously there are many mnks that suck on your server

Oh, this thread is back, eh?

No, they're not too powerful. That is all.

a drg beat me in PvP riot pls nerf

I'm just here to see the people eating popcorn.

I personally prefer caramel but I just realized that the ones I ate are gourmet caramel popcorns (the really crunchy ones). I never really ate them when I watch movies considering I buy them when I pass by those shops rarely and I just happen to not have any movies to watch when I ate them. Now I'm starting to wonder if I would prefer salty or sweet caramel popcorns for when I watch movies. Sweet doesn't really go well with soda, does it? What do you guys think?

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I personally prefer caramel but I just realized that the ones I ate are gourmet caramel popcorns (the really crunchy ones). I never really ate them when I watch movies considering I buy them when I pass by those shops rarely and I just happen to not have any movies to watch when I ate them. Now I'm starting to wonder if I would prefer salty or sweet caramel popcorns for when I watch movies. Sweet doesn't really go well with soda, does it? What do you guys think?

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I think popcorn needs a nerf. Gets stuck in teeth.

Dps is fairly balanced.
Drg Just seems OP compared to most because your average player Will do better on drg than say monk or ninja.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

after getting buff after buff in almost every patch update, now dragoons are too powerful.

in PvE content they're doing highest damage compared to any DPS jobs.

in PvP, they can win against almost every job in a fairly 1 on 1 situation.

in the upcoming Heavensward they're being featured as some kind of a poster boy.

please treat every job equally.

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Equalisim is for the weak, instead of having the gap purposefully closed so that you can do more damage how about doing a better job at your role so you beat them, it's not hard, it just takes some intelligence and learning.

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

Titan didn't give the short straw to DRG by a long shot, it's much rougher for a caster. Tank just has to stand there and manage mitigation, bard loses minimal dps running around. MNK and DRG lose a little from positionals due to stacking, but casters have a much more intense fight with most of the spells having cast times.

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Save for landslide, which isn't that bad, as long as a caster knows the fight they will know when they can cast and sail their way through the fight.

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Originally Posted by Pavise

Classes are fairly well balanced in this game in terms of DPS, if you're getting spanked by every Dragoon you play with maybe you're not playing properly yourself?

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The 3 melee classes are relatively well balanced with each other, in terms of what they have to offer vs. raw dps between them. If you think ranged do anything close to the same dps as melee, though, you couldn't be more wrong.

Not playing properly,Top dps will be :
1st DRG , 2nd NIN , 3rd MNK

Playing properly,Top dps will be :
1st MNK , 2nd NIN , 3rd DRG

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This ought to be good..

should this be in the pvp forums?

OP, learn to play your nin instead of trolling my CT weekly :(

DRGs are kinda fine, NINs are the ones disgustingly OP though
free gl3, raidwide dps boost, no positional, great AOE and best dps in game

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

I fully support a DRG nerf, possibly a job trait that gives them a 10% chance of instant death from using a GCD skill.

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I actually think that DRGs role needs to change, since they take on the responsibility of tanking the floor.

Also OP I liked your post.

OP needs to get gud if they're getting out-classed by a Dragoon.

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All three melee classes are evenly equal.
If you're getting beat by a Dragoon, then get good. Honestly.
First, people complain that DRG's are underpowered, and now they're suddenly OP?

Please. Just stop -_-.