Zeta Weapon Upgrades?!

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05-02-2015, 12:17 PM
PEANUT

Zeta Weapon Upgrades?!

If anyone could shed some light on this, it would be greatly appreciated.

What will become of our Zodiac Zeta weapons in 3.0? Will they be used to be upgraded further and become more powerful, or will they be done away with, with new Relic Weapons?!
05-02-2015, 12:21 PM
SummerSkye

No one knows yet. Anything anyone tells you is pure speculation.
05-02-2015, 12:27 PM
PEANUT

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Originally Posted by SummerSkye

No one knows yet. Anything anyone tells you is pure speculation.

Ok, thanks Summer, I appreciate it! Do you know when they will release information on specifics of this topic at all?
05-02-2015, 12:28 PM
AskaRay

Really all that they have said is if you have your finished relic, it will give you a boost in the expansion.
They haven't said what that means.
05-02-2015, 12:30 PM
SummerSkye

No one does, to be blunt. The only thing that has been said "officially" is that players who have completed the Zodiac quest line will be given "consideration" in 3.0. No one even knows what they mean by that, and anyone who adds to it, is again, simply speculating. I would keep checking back here, though. As soon as something official is announced, these forums will light up like a Christmas tree...lol
05-02-2015, 12:32 PM
PEANUT

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

Really all that they have said is if you have your finished relic, it will give you a boost in the expansion.
They haven't said what that means.

Ew...I don't like the sound of that. It makes me feel like they are only going to help for like a month, then something waaay better will come out :\
05-02-2015, 12:33 PM
Dyvid

IDK, I'm just happy I got it today for my birthday :)
05-02-2015, 12:42 PM
SummerSkye

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Originally Posted by PEANUT

Ew...I don't like the sound of that. It makes me feel like they are only going to help for like a month, then something waaay better will come out :\

I was just trying to let you know that before people chime in and say it will be a "viable weapon until level 55" or a "base to start your new relic weapon off of" ...or any other speculation, that no one truly knows anything. Consideration...it could be simply a title. A minion, You may be able to hang it on your wall. No one knows yet. :)
05-02-2015, 01:38 PM
Gyson

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

Really all that they have said is if you have your finished relic, it will give you a boost in the expansion.
They haven't said what that means.

Except they didn't even say that. They simply said people who have finished the relic quest line will be "taken into consideration". That's all they said.. those three words. It doesn't necessarily mean a boost in the expansion, or a shortcut in the new quest, or a stat advantage, etc.. it just means whatever "taken into consideration" means to them.

For example, if they allow you to trade in your old relic for a weapon ornament to hang on an interior wall of an in-game house you'll likely never own because of plot availability issues, then they have fulfilled their promise of taking your effort into consideration.
05-02-2015, 02:07 PM
PEANUT

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Originally Posted by Dyvid

IDK, I'm just happy I got it today for my birthday :)

Aw, Happy Birthday!!! Congrats :)
05-02-2015, 02:08 PM
PEANUT

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Originally Posted by SummerSkye

I was just trying to let you know that before people chime in and say it will be a "viable weapon until level 55" or a "base to start your new relic weapon off of" ...or any other speculation, that no one truly knows anything. Consideration...it could be simply a title. A minion, You may be able to hang it on your wall. No one knows yet. :)

Right, I get what you mean, thank you. At least, if anything, they can still be used to glamour, because they are gorgeous. It's just a lot of work to get just ONE, so hopefully all that work won't go to waste.
05-02-2015, 03:28 PM
Whiston

Speculation incoming, but I am pretty sure they will mostly go to waste.
We don't know exactly what will happen to our relic in the expansion, however the devs have already stated there will NOT be a zodiac weapon for the three new classes. With that information alone we can near certainly say the new weapon quests, whatever they may be, will not be excluding the three new classes, therefore will not be using the current relic as a required base weapon. Nor do I believe they will give any significant advantage due to the fact that it would be quite dissuasive to attempt the new jobs.
05-02-2015, 04:31 PM
Spawnie

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Originally Posted by Whiston

Speculation incoming, but I am pretty sure they will mostly go to waste.
We don't know exactly what will happen to our relic in the expansion, however the devs have already stated there will NOT be a zodiac weapon for the three new classes. With that information alone we can near certainly say the new weapon quests, whatever they may be, will not be excluding the three new classes, therefore will not be using the current relic as a required base weapon. Nor do I believe they will give any significant advantage due to the fact that it would be quite dissuasive to attempt the new jobs.

i was preparing items for machinist relic in 3.0 til heards devs state that now they are just sitting in my inventory collecting dust lol
05-02-2015, 04:34 PM
ClaireAbigail

I'll be happy if you can transfer the stats of your zeta to the new relic. That alone will make alot of people happy that they didnt waste money on materia if they min/maxed their relic
05-02-2015, 05:35 PM
JimboTCB

As far as I know, what has currently been confirmed is:

1) Owners of relic weapons will be given "consideration" in the expansion, what exactly this constitutes has not been specified, so anything beyond that is idle speculation
2) New jobs will not have Zodiac weapons to grind out
3) Current BIS gear will still be "good" until about level 55
4) Current Zodiac grind will be made easier so people can farm them for glamour purposes
5) New relics will not be available from the start, they will come out in 3.1

That is it. Nothing more has been stated for certain, and there has been no official elaboration on what the "consideration" for existing relics is - what stage they need to be at, what you'll get out of it, etc. For all we know you might just get a legacy achievement and told to grind the new damn relic from scratch like everyone else.
05-02-2015, 10:01 PM
Saccharin

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

Really all that they have said is if you have your finished relic, it will give you a boost in the expansion.
They haven't said what that means.

No, not a boost but some sort of advantage for the new relic.

Maybe less grind, who knows.
05-03-2015, 02:41 AM
Gyson

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Originally Posted by Saccharin

No, not a boost but some sort of advantage for the new relic.

Maybe less grind, who knows.

Or perhaps no advantage at all (as absolutely none was ever promised thus far). The reward could, for example, simply be a title.

I get the feeling when we finally get our answer there are going to be a lot of annoyed people who were allowing themselves to expect more instead of less.
05-03-2015, 02:47 AM
Felis

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Originally Posted by PEANUT

Ok, thanks Summer, I appreciate it! Do you know when they will release information on specifics of this topic at all?

I think more infos are coming some weeks before 3.1 (or in the 3.1 patch notes)

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Originally Posted by Gyson

Or perhaps no advantage at all (as absolutely none was ever promised thus far). The reward could, for example, simply be a title.

I get the feeling when we finally get our answer there are going to be a lot of annoyed people who were allowing themselves to expect more instead of less.

But we already got a title for it. So it would be something else.
05-03-2015, 03:00 AM
Evergrey

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Originally Posted by Felis

But we already got a title for it. So it would be something else.

Could be a title like "Zeta Legend".
Where people after Heavensward if they decide to make a Zeta for the glamour will only be able to get the "Z" title.

My personal guess is that people with Zeta will get a headstart in the 3.1 Relic questline.
What kind of headstart it could involve I don't know since I don't know what it will feature.
05-03-2015, 04:14 AM
aerolol

People with a Zeta will be able to enter the trial of the Zodiark primal which drops neat loot and a Zeta upgrade item (Super-Mahatma of the Serpent) at 100% rate.

One can dream, right?
05-03-2015, 04:21 AM
JimboTCB

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

Could be a title like "Zeta Legend".
Where people after Heavensward if they decide to make a Zeta for the glamour will only be able to get the "Z" title.

My personal guess is that people with Zeta will get a headstart in the 3.1 Relic questline.
What kind of headstart it could involve I don't know since I don't know what it will feature.

If you compare it to the current relic quest, the most obvious headstart would be skipping the initial busywork of forging your baseline relic and just using your Zeta instead.

They've already said that i130 gear will be good to level 55-ish, so the initial ilvl of the new relic at 60 would probably not be too far off what the current Zeta relics end up at now. It's not like they're ever going to let people skip huge amounts of what's presumably going to be a very long grind, and if the new relic starts at say 140 in its unfinished state, it's going to make a Zeta look like a big pile of garbage anyway.