Field Leves - Failure Rate

I'm R42 now, both Botanist and Miner, so I been doing R40 field leves now for 7 ranks. When I first started doing these @ R35, I noticed quite a hike in no-harvests and damaged attempts, and I attributed that to my entry rank for this area. It's now very apparant that SE has dummied up these rates, as I continue to experience a large spike in these, vs. when I simply grind these same areas.

My question is, was this really necessary ><

I've never had a large failure rate in gathering leves, my experience is that they are the same, I generally do not damage items, so I do not see your point.

I am currently rank 36 botanist and generally only break things which are harder to get like mahogany logs and certain feathers.

Mahogany logs and gold ores will be a pain to gather until like the mid 40s.

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Originally Posted by Xenor

Mahogany logs and gold ores will be a pain to gather until like the mid 40s.

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if what your finding starts with low dura, its a gem/hard log like mohogony or the like

it has nothing to do with the area in general being harder

This could very well be the case. The leve, in particular that I experience the highest failure rate is Reading the Rings, which is, in fact, mahogony. Thanks for pointing this out, and my apology for failing to recognize this.

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Originally Posted by zzapp

This could very well be the case. The leve, in particular that I experience the highest failure rate is Reading the Rings, which is, in fact, mahogony. Thanks for pointing this out, and my apology for failing to recognize this.

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sometimes you never know til someone points it out to you.....
it coulda been a bug for all you knew

Two things that may also help you out:

- Watch out for gatherer's limitations. If you are damaging an item where you would have expected to have finished successfuly harvesting it, you may have been working too far into the anti-RMT territory. 150 successful gathers in one session will have you start failing. 250 will have you continuously fail.

- The special items for the leves such as "Wormless Lauan Log" or "Unknotched Mahogany Log" are treated as different items than their normal-harvesting equivilants by the game. They typically don't damage the remainder bar as quickly, but will often take two hits to harvest rather than just one, even if the normal version of the item can be harvested in one hit.

Mahogany logs are always located in like the first 1/5 of the bar so if you learn what the remainder is for a mahogany log and hit there you will greatly improve your chances of grabbing mahogany. Not sure if you need to be a certain rank for the first part of my statement to apply however.

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Originally Posted by Catapult

Two things that may also help you out:

- Watch out for gatherer's limitations. If you are damaging an item where you would have expected to have finished successfuly harvesting it, you may have been working too far into the anti-RMT territory. 150 successful gathers in one session will have you start failing. 250 will have you continuously fail.

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Leves are unafected by this, so this is not the case

I just hit 43 in both Botanist and Miner and noticed a noticeable increase in success for the leves you mentioned.

OK, I've given this a fair try, and now my botanist is r46, and just now I did leve Reading the Rings, which means I've been doing this leve for 9 ranks now. My damage or failure to harvest rate was 33%, and if I was to calculate my success rate on strictly mahogony logs it would be severely lower. It's hard enough at this rank to level up @ 130 SP per successful harvest without the additional impedence of some bullsh*t or dummied up failure rate. Will you please fix this ><

I dunno what to tell you man. I started doing these leves a few weeks ago and at r36 I have no problem successfully logging anything as long as it isn't a mahogany log. If your gear is up to date try eating some + Gathering food like Tomato pie and see if it helps. Also I believe having more STR lowers the rate at which the remainder drops.

This is mahogony logs, bro. After 11 ranks I would expect the damage rate to be lower, but it isn't. I was also told @ mid 40's this problem will become less of an issue. I don't have this problem grinding, and I don't have this problem with gold when I'm mining.

Oh my bad, I thought you meant logging up everything. It makes sense now though =P

Try the food if you haven't though. It seems to afford at least 1 more hit most of the time.

you should get 3 swings on mahogany logs now, no? If not you need to update your gear, if yes then you need to learn where to chop. If you have high enough strength the location of items are in a fixed position so you know that mahogany is in the first half of the chop dialog, since at 46 you should be able to dig up mahogany with either 1 or 2 strikes this shouldn't prove a problem. This isn't a problem with the game its a problem with the way you are gathering. Hope that helps you.

I'll try adding some str. Incidently, there is nothing shabby about my gear, although my hatchet is NQ.

Thanks for taking the time to offer some guidance.

there is a certain amount of str needed for each item to make it be in roughly the same place on the strike gauge, so hopefully that will help