Lost my CD

I lost my final fantasy XIV cd. So can i download the client somewhere?

i dont think SE offer this service O_o! if they do so... no idear where the click is :o
and how u managed it to lose ur way to the german side of the forum :D?!

Hi there,

I will move this thread to the US/English forum as they might be more able to help you.

You can easily find a torrent of the origional dvd with a little searching for final fantasy xiv.

I heard rumors that they were binding the CD-Keys, somehow, this time around - due to people buying it for one platform and borrowing their friends' discs to install it on multiples. If this is true, it might only be for the PS3 version, though - so let us know how the torrent turns out.

If they do end up restricting it somehow, I'll be pretty disappointed. That general freedom of play platform due to the bulk of payment coming from monthly subscriptions was one of the things that drew me to FFXI in the first place. I'd probably skip buying the PS3 version (which I'd planned to shell out for, anyway) just out of spite.

That or if they pulled the "exclusive item you can only obtain by activating a code BEFORE you play the game" bullshit on us again...

Nop, there are no restrictions. I myself bought only one box and the rest was just the CD-Key (game codes) so i wouldn't need to have mulltiples copies of the game here. Since the CD-Key is actually the game price its perfect legal, only freeing the player of the game's physical burden.

You do can download the client anywhere and, as soon as you registered your key in your SE ID you can log in...regardless if its "your" FFXIV or not.

If it is the same as XI you can use any disk or torrent to download it then just plug in your account info and your good to go. You cant use the same registration code more than once so you would have to buy a new disk if you were to make a new account anyways.

It doesn't matter how many machines you put it on. And I don't think they really care. You're buying the registration code. I did the same thing For XI, I ran it on 2 PC's and an xbox, I bought the PC version my friend got the xbox version and we swapped. still two copies o the game was purchased. When XIV comes out for the Playstation, I will probably do the same thing.

Find a torrent for it. Torrenting final fantasy xiv not illegal due to only being able to have access to the game with your account login and password. You clearly bought the license.

Distributing the game without SE's okay is definately not legal and bittorrent = distributing unless your client is set to download only.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

I heard rumors that they were binding the CD-Keys, somehow, this time around - due to people buying it for one platform and borrowing their friends' discs to install it on multiples. If this is true, it might only be for the PS3 version, though - so let us know how the torrent turns out.

If they do end up restricting it somehow, I'll be pretty disappointed. That general freedom of play platform due to the bulk of payment coming from monthly subscriptions was one of the things that drew me to FFXI in the first place. I'd probably skip buying the PS3 version (which I'd planned to shell out for, anyway) just out of spite.

That or if they pulled the "exclusive item you can only obtain by activating a code BEFORE you play the game" bullshit on us again...

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No sir, you can freely download any ISO of the disc/install the game from the DVD and play it freely on any PC at this point in time. The only restriction is the IP address temporary lock up on users who do not have a Security Token and attempt to login from an unknown IP range.

I imagine it'll be exactly like most other MMOs or FFXI in that regard.

To OP. I'm not sure how SE feels about people linking the XIV installation disc torrent here but you can easily find it with a google search or on a few different community sites. (Including XIVPRO) I really wouldn't consider it illegal because it's a product you have already payed for previously and the majority of the profit XIV will garner will be when they start billing monthly.

Hopefully at some point in time they offer a client download from the website.

Ciao.

I don't think they're going to crack down on client distribution for anyone concerned about legality... even if it's illegal, it's a waste of time for anyone who doesn't have a valid account or access to a valid account to even have the game software because there's not much they can do with it.
If square proves me wrong I'll have egg on my face, but... I like eggs.

Stop asking and just torrent it already.

You paid for your license, you're unable to play the game without a valid one (the account and password) so you can't get in trouble for it. Unlike downloading Roms or Pirating software, you are literally downloading a backup and I don't think anyone has gotten in trouble for downloading an MMORPG because they lost the disk. Simply because the software is useless without a valid account, which you are paying for.

By not torrenting the file you are unable to play the game you are paying a monthly fee for. (Never mind you are in the free trial stage right now).

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Originally Posted by Coldfire

Distributing the game without SE's okay is definately not legal and bittorrent = distributing unless your client is set to download only.

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Yeah but.. it's not hurting SE at all... you just simply can't play unless you buy the game. There's no such thing as an FFXIV key generator.

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Originally Posted by JackDaniels

Yeah but.. it's not hurting SE at all... you just simply can't play unless you buy the game. There's no such thing as an FFXIV key generator.

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I didn't say SE would care. I was just stating the fact that it's not legal if SE suddenly does decide to care :P

There's really no way that they could tell. I remember some people in my beta guild who bought the CE downloaded the client prior to the release date so that when they did bring the game home all they would have to do is register the code. They haven't had any problems.

This been talked about before and SE never lock/delete the topic about utorrent. If you lost your CD you can easy just get it off online. Remember when SE said the buddy pass you give the CD to your friend? this is pretty much the samething.

Maybe a dev can just tell us if this ok or not.

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Originally Posted by Defmetal

Stop asking and just torrent it already.

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When downloading the client via a torrent site there is no way to verify that its a legitimate copy and not one that has been stealthily modified. If you do not care about your account getting stolen, more power to you, but for those that do care, you should never get an MMORPG client through a torrent site unless you have the (independently obtained) MD5 or SHA1 hash to verify that its an original, unmodified, copy.

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Originally Posted by thedevilsjester

When downloading the client via a torrent site there is no way to verify that its a legitimate copy and not one that has been stealthily modified. If you do not care about your account getting stolen, more power to you, but for those that do care, you should never get an MMORPG client through a torrent site unless you have the (independently obtained) MD5 or SHA1 hash to verify that its an original, unmodified, copy.

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Very true, but there are other ways to verify: some torrent sites have a VIP or TRUSTED status that allay fears of malware modification. Also, the comments section is also a good place to verify the integrity of the download. Although these aren't as fool proof as MD5 or SHA1, it is something that I always look for and have never had issues. Besides, those with security tokens are safe from that anyway.

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Originally Posted by Bigcatman

Very true, but there are other ways to verify: some torrent sites have a VIP or TRUSTED status that allay fears of malware modification. Also, the comments section is also a good place to verify the integrity of the download. Although these aren't as fool proof as MD5 or SHA1, it is something that I always look for and have never had issues. Besides, those with security tokens are safe from that anyway.

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Security tokens may save your FFXIV account, but the malware/trojans that may be stealthy installed through a 'bad' torrent, could easily have other consequences that are not FFXIV related. Also 'vip' and 'trusted' statues on torrent sites do not mean you can trust the uploader absolutely. Its all based solely on the judgement of the person giving out the status badges, if you trust their judgement with your security, thats your choice but I would not recommend downloading any executable from a torrent site for any reason from any uploader. Try and find a buddy that can burn you a copy of the disc, or send you a trusted iso.

I understand that some of you will go this route anyway (and some may not have a choice) but this should not be the de facto solution and should be recommended as a last resort only.

This was actually a good reminder for me to backup my FFXIV disc. Here are all the important file hashs from an original unmodified NA FFXIV CE as well as who and when files were digitally signed for anybody who needs them.

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NA FFXIV CE File Hashes (U10004W_001_D01)

ffxivsetup.exe (Signed: SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:15:01 AM)
CRC32: 4B3E495C
MD5: F3546CD77AEE3872E5BA83BB04A83992
SHA-1: 7B658E204F47449E6C0F56DC36D36CDF331FA647

version.dvm
CRC32: 5BC4E6C5
MD5: 829BB14520FEDAA122168662BD1C64EA
SHA-1: 669D4D63FE39CD7731955EE859D4587C7EBB17C3

autorun.inf
CRC32: 71269F54
MD5: 52855BD875FC06B975EFFC5B94ABEC13
SHA-1: BF48C7E716823D75D0872E6CF9B69BBBE049EEC8

\data\setup.exe (Signed: SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:10:04 AM)
CRC32: 2AA02547
MD5: 8B286F34B32B1FF9554A61433C39AC08
SHA-1: D9B4D05FDF3EF1A24A878DBFAEDCAC2E8994A627

\data\data1.cab
CRC32: 862C1A59
MD5: BD83F5A46B18EC54D7A06041C0C99976
SHA-1: 8E745A943327F0A74412BF7F9B6DD8A65A2FB501

\data\data1.hdr
CRC32: 2DF2D979
MD5: 63E98609D219D802CE1627B9EC62DCB5
SHA-1: E008723ADF6875B720B01506479972EE4D161D39

\data\data2.cab
CRC32: 5CCF0D42
MD5: C7D7C5A8C0A99E6D5A3DB5A52D5F7377
SHA-1: B6EE9234943004E747D996BCD8B82E0CC55E0FFF

\data\data3.cab
CRC32: 8E6615C5
MD5: 749E2FE77E85480A52E3E0048ADBD962
SHA-1: 446EE3AC3ECE28772F5C8175FBDDD95CA5A4CCD5

\data\layout.bin
CRC32: 6E96B362
MD5: 54B19CA8479EA529694843F80A2A75F5
SHA-1: 2960A43ACC7B7433884863C0895A0F413E0CF479

\data\setup.inx
CRC32: 7D57A6EC
MD5: 9E4A280BF0E344D19920E5CC7A1ED299
SHA-1: 5BA897DDE400C66785B71B8FB121ECE1B3A3E177

\data\setup.ini
CRC32: 7415CD51
MD5: A2FE834C6062B297C9EAD08E01CB4AB4
SHA-1: F80F1C765B7D57B8F21B18E6A9FE439BC06A2B42

\data\_Setup.dll (Signed: Acresso Software Inc. Friday, May 09, 2008 10:27:20 PM)
CRC32: 5CD5416B
MD5: 7DE2D19C870587B8FFC5A446E9B6E29A
SHA-1: 4818065B55BBE0469CB2135197D69CAAE359AC63

\data\ISSetup.dll (Signed: SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:10:03 AM)
CRC32: 71AEBD1D
MD5: A3883B874C4A28A0C88624D6A31AC0AC
SHA-1: 9ED7AEC129DC8F373304A090536D147639513562

\dx_march2009\DXSETUP.exe (Signed: Microsoft Corporation Monday, March 16, 2009 2:36:19 PM)
CRC32: 73E75E6B
MD5: 11DD6E8AB9759D1AC91FFE0D0E4949CB
SHA-1: 2A86774D0C87050D5C7AA9738CC3975303A40D0E

\dx_march2009\DSETUP.dll (Signed: Microsoft Corporation Monday, March 16, 2009 2:36:07 PM)
CRC32: FEC00DF7
MD5: 4D48DBE4D3A06C497435014E5C583F34
SHA-1: 159CBC37080B7EA3CEAE8D25125B99F9F4948341

\dx_march2009\dsetup32.dll (Signed: Microsoft Corporation Monday, March 16, 2009 2:36:49 PM)
CRC32: 0E7D54F6
MD5: 7C7CC9FEB1026678C48BBABE84EA57C2
SHA-1: 4FE9C466FC65CF07AF0E1440743B1822AB65849B

\dx_march2009\dxdllreg_x86.cab (Signed: Microsoft Corporation Monday, March 16, 2009 2:36:45 PM)
CRC32: D50707C9
MD5: AC1591319FC941E6BD857E4435A56F5E
SHA-1: 958DFD761E1B5CCBE5406DF11827A8BD2AE9B8DB

\dx_march2009\dxnt.cab (Signed: Microsoft Corporation Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37:21 PM)
CRC32: 822D93E5
MD5: E0B41A4297C2EB42A1A03AEEE855CE59
SHA-1: D353D7167225C4D663FF086B07F21178244CA8AB

\dx_march2009\dxupdate.cab (Signed: Microsoft Corporation Monday, March 16, 2009 2:36:51 PM)
CRC32: D3C11E54
MD5: 97D9034112DF13B4B891256EC613DC8A
SHA-1: 473835EFCBA836A6218C78B5ABC086296DCE0F03

\dx_march2009\Mar2009_d3dx10_41_x86.cab (Signed: Microsoft Corporation Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37:15 PM)
CRC32: D410BA0E
MD5: A5D35900348E30709999C6A554EFA54D
SHA-1: 109E1F35E9EFDFF53FFA49CC8D8016780B0EAC1E

\dx_march2009\Mar2009_d3dx9_41_x64.cab (Signed: Microsoft Corporation Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37:21 PM)
CRC32: 05E1E05E
MD5: DF155D9FD1334425EFFB65125CD0E68B
SHA-1: B6800AEC04860014B889DB81DA78B40023DD2D90

\dx_march2009\APR2007_xinput_x86.cab (Signed: Microsoft Corporation Monday, March 16, 2009 2:36:47 PM)
CRC32: 8197BAA6
MD5: FE4B170965FDA7AAC0F92C015DC0688A
SHA-1: D7D19D31B750175728C25A46E8E7B6CD7EF209F4

\dx_march2009\APR2007_xinput_x64.cab (Signed: Microsoft Corporation Monday, March 16, 2009 2:36:53 PM)
CRC32: 737167C7
MD5: 34738449260416609E1AC581A531AE3D
SHA-1: 801AE604BE6F4A768AE4039C3B1FE5D97DF740CC

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If you bought the Custom (or collectors) edition, it even states with the buddy key "Use your disc to install the game on a friends machine, then use your buddy key to get them started"

Torrent it is fine, because you've already paid for it.

thedevilsjester brings up a very valid point. Be careful of the torrent sites you download from should you choose to download it in this fashion. See the devilsjesters and Rapture's posts above.