Steps of fate out from roulette

game full of stupid people ruining my roulette in steps- remove it from roulette cause if u clear it once u will never wanna do it again.:mad::mad::mad:

The roulette is here to get people into content, particularly content no one wants to do. Its there to increase traffic.

Its negates the whole point of the roulette if you start pulling everything that isn't a Garuda HM run with a minimum ilvl of 110.

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Originally Posted by MikkoMakko

game full of stupid people ruining my roulette in steps- remove it from roulette cause if u clear it once u will never wanna do it again.:mad::mad::mad:

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SE! Stop ruining this smart guys roulette!

There's already a thread about this which is not solely a rant against the stupid others... but I see, your points are really thought through and you wrote them out really well.

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Originally Posted by MikkoMakko

game full of stupid people ruining my roulette in steps- remove it from roulette cause if u clear it once u will never wanna do it again.:mad::mad::mad:

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Vote against

Maybe next time you might actually want to use your knowledge of the fight and take the initiative to lay out the plan for the "stupids"? As mentioned, the roulette is there to help with queues wherever it's needed, not just so you can register and do a free 2min run for da shinies.

The lack of initiative is the biggest crutch in pug parties. That's why you should always try to be the person arranging shit or chances are no one will do anything towards it.

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Originally Posted by MikkoMakko

game full of stupid people ruining my roulette in steps- remove it from roulette cause if u clear it once u will never wanna do it again.:mad::mad::mad:

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I don't see any Trial in my df called, "Steps of fate", so why remove something that isn't there?

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Originally Posted by MikkoMakko

game full of stupid people ruining my roulette in steps- remove it from roulette cause if u clear it once u will never wanna do it again.:mad::mad::mad:

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Don't do roulette. Issue solved.

Your request completely ignores the reason we got the roulettes at all.

I hate it whn dps people need to actually do something in steps but we all now that dps players suck!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad:

Go play S/FCoB as a dps and tell how much we suck. It's a shame that all the dps are bad in comparison to our tank overlords like you. :)

What do you do as a tank exactly? Pull the mobs in front of the boss in SoF? After that it's just a tank and spank with an occasional interrupt at the tortoise. If you hate having the dps do mechanics, then go use the Dragonkiller yourself. One tank easily enough to hold the mobs for that brief period of time unless your cannon guys are messing stuff up.

You really need to learn some self-assessment.

Or wait, are you a healer? Can't check it on phone but it matters not.

Dude is a healer... and I'd say it matters, because you only need 1 healer really healing and the other can easily do Berthas or Dragon Killer.
Best bet is all healers other than OP "all suck" too.

Yeah, it's the obvious "nothing wrong with me, everyone else must suck" attitude. Fact is, more often than not, if people are struggling on SoF, it's themselves that hold the party down and not the other way around.

Instead of giving us constructive criticism about SoF, the OP has come barking at all the other people that "suck" and boost his own ego. What this thread tells us, is that op lacks self-assesment, objective overview and is a very prejudical person in general. (Dungeon dps suck->all dps must suck. Ravens are black birds->all black birds must be ravens?) There are a several things that could be better on SoF, but the wipes are mostly caused by people with the mindaet same as the op, since the fight in itself is not hard at all and just requires the slightest bit of coordination prior to engaging.

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Originally Posted by MikkoMakko

I hate it whn dps people need to actually do something in steps but we all now that dps players suck!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad:

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Go back to Farmville, you L33t with no single Coil Achievment *lol*

Get at least a dps class to 50 to have an idea how it works, ...

My winning run in a nut shell.

Main Tank: "Bring the adds in close and I'll hold em still"

OT & OH: "Alright we got the cannons, dps can you get the runners 1st then swarm the big one?"

Dps Squad: "Totally, we got it this time."
Bard: "I got snares so don't worry"
Me (Drg): Leave the Dragon Killer to me, no worries"

<After long battle has Visharp at 5%>
MT & OT "DPS the hell out of this guy we'll distract the adds"
Me: Here goes every thing, <gets direct hit with Dragon Killer> Bull's Eye! <Sees AoE line from behind> Piss off!! <Dragonfire dive kills add then LB3s Visharp for the win>

As with most things in MMOs team work trumps all.

Thing is, most of the trials are one-shot, quick things that people can go in and out and be done in ten minutes, and the rewards from the roulette daily reflect that.

Even on a good run, Steps takes a while, and that's assuming people know what they're doing and one-shot it. Completely defeats the point of queueing for roulette at all. And considering how many people still need it, you have a greater and greater chance of getting stuck with it and wasting half an hour of your life.

Most people are probably only doing roulettes to cap out on poetics each week now, which you can easily accomplish just by doing daily experts anyway and is now a much quicker and easier way of getting it done. Meanwhile, people who actually need to do specific trials which are lumped in the roulette pool are out of luck.

I don't know what the solution is, maybe split Steps and some of the harder trials out into a separate pool with increased rewards, or give it significantly increased rewards but only when done via roulette. But having so many trials that are mandatory for storyline completion in the same pool as Steps means that people just avoid it like the plague, and nobody can get the other trials in the pool done - like, I'm trying to get my relic quest done on my Paladin who just hit 50 yesterday and I just can't get a group to pop for Chimera, it's ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by JimboTCB

I don't know what the solution is, maybe split Steps and some of the harder trials out into a separate pool with increased rewards, or give it significantly increased rewards but only when done via roulette. But having so many trials that are mandatory for storyline completion in the same pool as Steps means that people just avoid it like the plague, and nobody can get the other trials in the pool done - like, I'm trying to get my relic quest done on my Paladin who just hit 50 yesterday and I just can't get a group to pop for Chimera, it's ridiculous.

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I say since Steps is more in line with story completion that moving it to "Main Scenario" Roulet may fix it a bit. The other MS roulets (Prae, CM, and any thing else they may have added) are typically longer and it has a high SOL and Gil reward for doing the roulette. Not to mention the Adventurer in Need bonuses are insane with that one.

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Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace

I say since Steps is more in line with story completion that moving it to "Main Scenario" Roulet may fix it a bit. The other MS roulets (Prae, CM, and any thing else they may have added) are typically longer and it has a high SOL and Gil reward for doing the roulette. Not to mention the Adventurer in Need bonuses are insane with that one.

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I did think the same but then I found logically players will need to have Steps unlocked in order to process this roulette,
therefore putting Step in this roulette will result many fresh 50 who want to play this roulette cannot join this...^^;

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Originally Posted by Nicobo

I did think the same but then I found logically players will need to have Steps unlocked in order to process this roulette,
therefore putting Step in this roulette will result many fresh 50 who want to play this roulette cannot join this...^^;

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A Fair point. And "Fresh 50s" wont be able to simply progress to that point because, unlike those of us who've been here for nearly two years, a fresh 50 will have to grind a lot of gear out to hit that ilvl 70 content of 2.1&2.2, then the i80 content of 2.3 & 2.4, AND THEN the i90 content of 2.5.

So that solution would be an even greater problem in and of its self.

Yesterday, on Scholar I queued for Trial DF and landed in Steps of Faith.

I didn't particularly wanted to do it, but before I knew it, one of the tanks and the other healer had jumped ship. I told the remaining tank that I'd hang out because she was queuing to help others too. One of the other guys had a macro ready to explain the fight. 15 minutes and 3 different sets of tank and healers later, we finish the dungeon fast and with only one wipe; turns out that 2 of our dps had a first clear achievement. They probably would be still fighting the DF revolving door right now.

Moral of this story? Help your fellow man out and stick around. It's not such a bother, once you explain it to your party.