Animus books

Am I the only one that thinks these didn't get nerfed enough? The only change I see is the more frequent fate spawns.

atma drop rate was increased at least 10 fold, along with alexandrite drops for novus, light output for nexus was doubled, this just seems so incredibly imbalanced to me

What is there really to nerf about it?

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for starters I think the soldiery cost should have been completely removed

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Originally Posted by Scorv

for starters I think the soldiery cost should have been completely removed

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People have problems getting the soldiery for these books?

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Originally Posted by Scorv

Am I the only one that thinks these didn't get nerfed enough? The only change I see is the more frequent fate spawns.

atma drop rate was increased at least 10 fold, along with alexandrite drops for novus, light output for nexus was doubled, this just seems so incredibly imbalanced to me

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They did nerf the fate re-spawn times. Which in general was the biggest hold up on these books. Several fates used to have 4-6 hour re-spawn times, now they all appear to have 1 hour re-spawn times.
About the SOL cost, you sort of right, technically, they increased the price, as they used to be 1500 Myth, which converts to 375 SOL.
Still 500 SOL is dirt simple to come by. LoA (CT), ST, WoD, Daily Expert, Daily Main Story all pay 100 SOL or better.

The biggest issue I had with the Animus books was waiting on DPS queues for low level dungeons. The FATE spawns can be a little pesky but I had didn't personally have that much of an issue with them. The only "nerf" I would have liked is being able to carry/complete more than one book at a time.

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Originally Posted by Darkstride

The only "nerf" I would have liked is being able to carry/complete more than one book at a time.

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That would've made life so much easier!
I honestly hate the item restriction on some things. That and Alexandrite maps (or just maps in general) are the biggest inventory/retread annoyances to me.

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Originally Posted by ChameleonMS

They did nerf the fate re-spawn times. Which in general was the biggest hold up on these books. Several fates used to have 4-6 hour re-spawn times, now they all appear to have 1 hour re-spawn times.
About the SOL cost, you sort of right, technically, they increased the price, as they used to be 1500 Myth, which converts to 375 SOL.
Still 500 SOL is dirt simple to come by. LoA (CT), ST, WoD, Daily Expert, Daily Main Story all pay 100 SOL or better.

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yeah, its easy to get the soldiery for the books, but its not like we all work on one class at a time, right now, im working on zodiac weapon, which requires A TON of soldiery, 1600x8 total i believe, also we use soldiery for maps to collect alexandrite. Having and extra 4500 soldiery that we dont have to spend would have been incredibly helpful i think

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Originally Posted by Darkstride

The biggest issue I had with the Animus books was waiting on DPS queues for low level dungeons. The FATE spawns can be a little pesky but I had didn't personally have that much of an issue with them. The only "nerf" I would have liked is being able to carry/complete more than one book at a time.

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This i could get behind all day

Yeah, if I could carry as many books as I want I could A) Actually do something with my 2000 soldiery I've been sitting on for months, and B) Complete the damn relic without taking time off work. It's just, I always run around Eorzea killing random stuff and then it turns out that, oh, that was part of that next book so ya'll can do that all over again.

I understand why this was done from the start but now it's a major roadblock. :p

Being limited to completing the books one at a time is just time-consuming for the sake of being time-consuming. I think we have enough grinding steps in the relic quest line to soak up players' free time. If you have enough soldiery to buy multiple books, I see no good reason why you shouldn't be able to complete them simultaneously so you can move on to the next time-suck quest.

Only thing I really hate bout the books are the mobs... because seriously waiting for the Lugger at his spawnpoint 50 minutes because yes they respawn all 5 minutes but if you try to get to the other 2 (if you even find em) you get there... they are killed.... back your "standard" one killed... its just grrrrr :mad:

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Originally Posted by Werhusky

Only thing I really hate bout the books are the mobs... because seriously waiting for the Lugger at his spawnpoint 50 minutes because yes they respawn all 5 minutes but if you try to get to the other 2 (if you even find em) you get there... they are killed.... back your "standard" one killed... its just grrrrr :mad:

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Yeah it also seems they have an obsession for letting us kill 10 of epsecially >that mob< in the area that only has 3 of them running around :-)

Soldiery cost was reduced drastically and it is easy to come by. You can purchase Alex maps via hunts also and get free maps by doing daily Expert Roulette.
The fate spawn rates while they have said has been changed i personally have not seen evidence to it. Some fates still take well over 2 hrs to spawn

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Originally Posted by Spoekes

Yeah it also seems they have an obsession for letting us kill 10 of epsecially >that mob< in the area that only has 3 of them running around :-)

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But then again I remember I had book where I needed to kill Dullahans... and a friend needed AK... turned out the Dullahans in AK counted (there are 13 of em in AK iirc) and Haukke Hm back when they didnt nerf away the NM boss kill when you killed the Lady as add... :o

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Originally Posted by Maero

Soldiery cost was reduced drastically and it is easy to come by. You can purchase Alex maps via hunts also and get free maps by doing daily Expert Roulette.
The fate spawn rates while they have said has been changed i personally have not seen evidence to it. Some fates still take well over 2 hrs to spawn

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Reduced from the mythic tomes cost... which if you did the math, the books are actually even more expensive now than they used to be

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Originally Posted by Scorv

Reduced from the mythic tomes cost... which if you did the math, the books are actually even more expensive now than they used to be

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You do realise that some value is lost in the convertion, right? While the scale was 4:1 for the myth - soldiery convertion, how much you get from duties is somwhere between 2:1 and 3:1. That puts the new price slightly lower than the old one.

Soldiery is easy to come by.....
Like really it is much easier now

-Could they have at least chosen mobs that have more than 2 spawns in the zone?
-Also did they have to pick FATES that spawn super infrequently, and/or FATES that are part II's of other FATES which are somtimes difficult to solo because they involve keeping boxes/crates or NPC alive against waves of mobs(hardest type)
-None of the Levequests are ever Levequests that are outright available, they're always Levequests that are locked and require you to clear 2-3 other Levequests first for them to appear.
-None of these are hard...they're just humungous time sinks and are extremely boring. Like, we have to do Dungeons..FINE, but then we have to do these SAME dungeons again later on for Lights, then again for whisper/singings, then again for dungeon drops. Wish dungeons/leves were retroactive so you dont have to repeat em

Well we can nit pick all day, but lets look at this from the whole picture.

zenith takes a couple hours
Atma takes about 4 hours
novus takes a couple days
nexus takes a couple day
Zodiac is an exception as its a new weapon - took me about a week and 1/2
zeta takes 2 days

Now animus.. im on day 4 of pretty consistant grinding and still have 4 books to go. at this rate it will take me another 3 days for a total of a week

to get animus completed you need:
4500 Soldiery
27 dungeons
27 (still semi long wait timed) FATES
27 Leve quests that tend to be buried under other leves
900 mobs.. NINE HUNDRED!!!!

Now, looking at it from that perspective, with all the other relics and how long they take, and with Heavenward only 2 months away, this kind or a grind for a level 100 weapon is just obsurd in my opinion

Started playing late December on a free trial but subbed early Jan so I can give a new person perspective. I don't like them. I gave up and just got the i130 Ironworks Poetic weapon instead. Got so much other stuff I can do that is actually FUN. This is just a chore and bores me to tears. My opinion is I wouldn't bother with the weapon if you haven't already gotten past the book stage at this point. I'm planning on waiting and seeing what Heavensward has in store. SE would be insane to not include some form of massive catch up for new players at that point.

Kill ten of these mobs, by the way there's only three of them at a time, plus two other types of mobs that are useless to you.

Good work. Now go and kill ten of one of the other type of mobs in the exact same area you just were.

Aaaaaaaaaargh

What I wouldn't give to be able to work on multiple books at once...

I did not mind the book phase too much honestly. Of course, this was the pre-nerf atma stage, so to be able to have a task and mark them off when completed seemed so much better than spending hours on FATES with nothing completed. Guess as each stage gets reduced, the other stages seem longer...

The Animus stage is the only reason I don't have 3-4 Zetas. Those books are just terrible content at this point.

Doing lvl 20 dungeons in i130 gear is just dumb.

The best thing they could do it nerf it to 4 books per Animus. (VIT,Main stat, secondary, secondary)

Zeta weapons will be useless in 60 days, no reason not to nerf them to the ground, especially an i100 stage.

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Originally Posted by Scorv

Well we can nit pick all day, but lets look at this from the whole picture.

zenith takes a couple hours
Atma takes about 4 hours
novus takes a couple days
nexus takes a couple day
Zodiac is an exception as its a new weapon - took me about a week and 1/2
zeta takes 2 days

Now animus.. im on day 4 of pretty consistant grinding and still have 4 books to go. at this rate it will take me another 3 days for a total of a week

to get animus completed you need:
4500 Soldiery
27 dungeons
27 (still semi long wait timed) FATES
27 Leve quests that tend to be buried under other leves
900 mobs.. NINE HUNDRED!!!!

Now, looking at it from that perspective, with all the other relics and how long they take, and with Heavenward only 2 months away, this kind or a grind for a level 100 weapon is just obsurd in my opinion

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and that's fast. Im sitting here at over two weeks still with a few books to go