Louisoix?

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04-12-2015, 06:35 AM
Brightshadow

Louisoix?

Is Louisoix alive....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xOOFCltZuc

I discovered this today, and says published recently I don't remember that additional last part.
04-12-2015, 06:37 AM
lololink

Nope he is dead.
04-12-2015, 06:38 AM
Kitfox

Hint: FCoB T12
04-12-2015, 06:39 AM
Yamimarik

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Originally Posted by Brightshadow

Is Louisoix alive....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xOOFCltZuc

I discovered this today, and says published recently I don't remember that additional last part.

Well... that last part of the video is from Final Coils of Bahamut turn 12 after you defeat it.

SPOILERS::

Louisouix is actually alive in a manner sort of. You see signs of him in the Binding Coils of Bahamut in the very first turn, you actually talk with him after defeating Turn 9 in Second coils, and he is the main boss "Phoenix" in Turn 12, as he has been turned into that primal and is currently tempered by Bahamut himself. That last part shows what happened to him, and how he became Phoenix and was able to stop the full brunt of Bahamut's attack.
04-12-2015, 06:45 AM
Velox

He technically was alive,

but he was tempered by Bahamut as he was fighting him. The whole spiel is explained in t12 but in short, you end up killing him to free him. Bittersweet moment that in the end Louisoix dies by your hand out of necessity to prevent his existence as a primal.
04-12-2015, 06:49 AM
Kiyashi

See and this is why I think this was a bad idea to release that part of the video when players haven't beaten FCoB Turn 12 yet. I knew some people were gonna watch it and go HUH?! I don't remember that! What is going on?. That cutscene is for beating turn 12 of the final coil of bahamut. You have to know the story up to that point and after the fight everything is explained to you. That was to me a major reward for beating final coil. Was extremely rewarding unlocking that cutscene and getting the story of what happened.
04-12-2015, 06:51 AM
Noshpan

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Originally Posted by Yamimarik

Well... that last part of the video is from Final Coils of Bahamut turn 12 after you defeat it.

SPOILERS::

Louisouix is actually alive in a manner sort of. You see signs of him in the Binding Coils of Bahamut in the very first turn, you actually talk with him after defeating Turn 9 in Second coils, and he is the main boss "Phoenix" in Turn 12, as he has been turned into that primal and is currently tempered by Bahamut himself. That last part shows what happened to him, and how he became Phoenix and was able to stop the full brunt of Bahamut's attack.

Made me tear up again watching that. ;_;
04-12-2015, 06:53 AM
Cherie

So if you really want to know, it would be important to watch the cutscene after beating turn 12, but for his ultimate fate, they discuss it after beating turn 13:

Spoiler (As best I understood it):

After bahamut is defeated, Louisoix is free but, as he is a primal now, he can be summoned by those who would worship him and will his return. Being the stand up guy he is, saving the world, who wouldn't think he is badass and try to summon him? So the twins decide to keep it all secret that he still exists/is a primal and thereby can return should he be needed. They believed that Louisoix deserved to rest and it would only corrupt him and his legacy to bring him back as the force of nature he sought to defend the world from. Without someone revealing that Louisoix is a primal, no one would seek to bring his return... IE, that's why you see people running around with "The final witness" title, as they witnessed the fate of such things in Coil and should be keeping them secret. Somehow, since he is "the phoenix" after all... I doubt he will ever stay "dead".
04-12-2015, 06:56 AM
Ashkendor

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiyashi

See and this is why I think this was a bad idea to release that part of the video when players haven't beaten FCoB Turn 12 yet. I knew some people were gonna watch it and go HUH?! I don't remember that! What is going on?. That cutscene is for beating turn 12 of the final coil of bahamut. You have to know the story up to that point and after the fight everything is explained to you. That was to me a major reward for beating final coil. Was extremely rewarding unlocking that cutscene and getting the story of what happened.

There are always going to be players that haven't beaten T12, though.

To this day there are players that haven't even cleared T5.
04-12-2015, 06:59 AM
Gillionaire

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Originally Posted by Kiyashi

See and this is why I think this was a bad idea to release that part of the video when players haven't beaten FCoB Turn 12 yet. I knew some people were gonna watch it and go HUH?! I don't remember that! What is going on?. That cutscene is for beating turn 12 of the final coil of bahamut. You have to know the story up to that point and after the fight everything is explained to you. That was to me a major reward for beating final coil. Was extremely rewarding unlocking that cutscene and getting the story of what happened.

Yeah damn youtube.. People should stop posting trailers too.. Delete all the Dark Knight clips too because I haven't seen the movie yet.
04-12-2015, 07:09 AM
Cherie

It doesn't really matter if people have beaten it or not. Releasing the trailer is fine. Honestly, if they haven't beaten it.... Unless people say something, who's to say it's part of the final coil end animation?

It's a cool story, and releasing this trailer might wet some peoples appetites to go wipe in turn 13 so they can watch/read the whole story. Because, that extra part released today is just a taste really. If SE is saying something by letting out this sort of mini spoiler, it's to go play coil some more, while it's still something people are gonna do. Certainly, after the xpac is out, much less people will be doing it.... lol That's just a couple weeks away! (6-7 weeks right?)

Turn 13 is much well within grasp for people than it was when released. Gear/hp/accuracy cap should be much less of a issue and more people know how to beat it now. It's certainly not easy for most, but it's a fun endeavor that one can definitely meet some friends while getting there. If it was super easy, it would be less satisfying to finally beat it. It's more about the journey than the destination right? It might be a long trip sometimes, but it's a excuse to play with friends.
04-12-2015, 07:28 AM
Zohar_Lahar

It's the Twintania and Nael dea Darnus that's in the way.
04-12-2015, 08:42 AM
BobbinT

so much for non spoiler part. lol
04-12-2015, 08:56 AM
Saccharin

I saw this and though it was the trailer. Silly me.

It seems Superman killed Bahamat.
04-12-2015, 09:21 AM
Canadane

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiyashi

See and this is why I think this was a bad idea to release that part of the video when players haven't beaten FCoB Turn 12 yet. I knew some people were gonna watch it and go HUH?! I don't remember that! What is going on?. That cutscene is for beating turn 12 of the final coil of bahamut. You have to know the story up to that point and after the fight everything is explained to you. That was to me a major reward for beating final coil. Was extremely rewarding unlocking that cutscene and getting the story of what happened.

It's not so different than anyone who didn't play 1.0. They would have absolutely no idea who this guy is other than a very short winded discourse between the twins.
It was a great reward, I agree. But it can't be locked behind difficult encounters forever. There are many who will never set foot in t12 and otherwise have no way of knowing the story. With an expansion on the way, it's time to let everyone in on the fun. And if that means releasing the video rather than nerfing the fight, I'm okay with that!