Is the FL queue horribad for every faction? (Aether)

Currently twin adder and want to start pvping now that everything is starting to wind down for the expansion, however the queues are 20 mins+ and 30 mins+ for Secure, which is what I prefer, Slaughter is a mess.

Is it this slow for all 3?

I remember when FL came out, the underplayed factions had a much shorter queue pop.

it's even worse for aether flames

I hear there are not many Storm on Aether which means they SHOULD get quick queues since everyone is waiting on them for their matches. [but this comes at a cost]

I've given up on all my attempts to play Frontlines this weekend, and I'm on Adder / Primal where I think we're in the middle with Maelstrom at the high pop/slow queue end of the spectrum and Flames on the low end.

Still very much disappointed in what SE has done (and not done) with this game mode and their lack of response which comes across as a lack of concern... maybe the command has been given from up on high that there's to be no info released of the type we're asking for, whoever it is that's calling the shots here, they have let us down. They give us a game mode, rewards to work towards for playing that game mode, and make it impossible to progress for some people more than others based on arbitrary things like GC choice.

Just remember that patch 2.55 just came out not too long ago. Usually PVP queues die when any sort of new content comes out because most people are busy playing the new stuff instead of pvping. PVP queues are usually just as bad on reset days(Tuesdays) as well.

Queues really annoy me, for several weeks, i tried to do as much frontlines as i could, and i ended with 10 FL a week. It's very low, and it doesn't encourage players to play pvp.
Since we can loot more quickly in WoD now, i don't even bore try to go frontlines, it is just a waste of time and i don't want to pay for waiting something that never comes.

Maybe i'll go back to frontlines one day... but this is not my priority anymore.

Aether Mael queues are ~5mins on good days and up to 30~60mins on bad ones. Typically on the good days we have some pretty decent players going in; but on the bad ones I've seen the absolute worst.

I think part of the issue stems from that fact that 5 times out of 10, we get an alliance (in 72s) with no healers and either a ton of tanks or a ton of dps. Having been in said alliances before I can pretty much confirm that it is severely frustrating if the rest of the team does not co-ordinate well, because if you aren't careful you are guaranteed to die (and most people do end up dying because co-ordination seems to be a foriegn concept to the masses on our side).

It just ends up being demoralizing, I've seen people leave games that were a "lost cause" or just outright do what I assume would be afking in our spawn. And of course, that leads to people just outright not playing. Hell I don't even play on days where I just get bad match after bad match after bad match- despite putting in all of my effort to win.

Solo queues for 72-man anything, in my experience, are an absolute mess for us- it borders on "bearable" but can very quickly teeter over to "absolute nightmare". 24-player games on the other hand tend to go pretty well.

It usually takes a while to get a queue as Maelstrom too.
Although I've had insta queues and queues lower than 2min every day or so, it usually it takes 30min+ each time.


One thing that seem to bother many Maelstrom players, which may contribute to slow queues (assuming that the lack of maelstrom players is the cause of slow queues), is that 90% of the time both Flames and Addlers don't touch each other at all and just attack us Maelstrom. (at least on our data center).
They both come towards us, and eventually we are all killed.
They both camp our side and we can see that neither Flames or Addlers is getting ANY points for kills on Slaughter mode and they are all at full HP and buffed with stoneskin/galvanize when we arrive back.

It's hard to defend against 2x1 but sometimes we manage to do it ^^





I've heard ppl saying on Frontlines chat that Addlers&Flames do that because our names show in red color, similar to aggroed enemies on PvE content, and red in general is a color that represents "danger"; meanwhile Flame's blue is a non-threatening color, in fact it's the default color for party members in PvE; and finally, yellow, which is the color of Addler, is a color which represents cowardice, so it fits them right to walk on Flame's shadows to try to secure a 2nd place on frontlines and most times not try at all to get to 1st place.

(I've heard 2 different people saying that and after a while, it does feel like it makes sense)

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Originally Posted by aerolol

90% of the time both Flames and Addlers don't touch each other at all and just attack us Maelstrom.

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The giant dogpile of Adder and Mael that consistently finds itself on our Flame OP during Secure begs otherwise. It's kinda sad when they're fighting each other for OUR base, since they're certainly not trading any of the other bases.

Secure and Slaughter have different audiences, lol.

I've noticed during the more prime hours the queue times take just as long as mornings/weekdays.

Even though there are more players queueing during primetime, the DF is setting up 72player matches instead of 24, which takes longer to fill. So regardless. . Don't queue unless you've got 30mins to sit around first. :/

Some mornings I can get 24player matches after 15-20min queues. That's the best I experience.. (Maelstrom : Aether)

I've given up trying to get into FL for now as Maelstrom on Primal. I'm not willing to wait for hours, unable to do any content that would interrupt the DF.

When Frontlines roulette was first released, I would queue for it with join in progress selected. I noticed that people were getting into Slaughter matches once or twice before I got a queue pop and the majority of time it would be Secure. I therefore just started to queue for Slaughter only and my queue times rapidly increased. I put this down to far fewer people selecting Secure from the PvP menu therefore taking a lot longer to fill the ranks for each GC.

I think another issue could be when some people have all languages selected. If one person has their language set to French/German/Japanese only, it would need 23 more people split across three different GC factions that have all languages selected to fill this. A few times I've done Wolve's Den under one language and forgot to change the next day and friends have got into loads of Slaughter matches before me, until I noticed I was set to French only!

Secure is by far my favourite mode in Frontlines but I prefer getting to PvP over massive queue times. For me, selecting just Slaughter, with English as the only language and join in progress selected has been the fastest for me.

For all of you wanting to get your pvp fix join out Aether solo queues!

Just seconding what Holic is saying. If you're rank 45 and join the solo queue wolves den event every friday you will get basically instant queues and be in for some good times. GC doesn't matter and it's basically non-stop pvp action!

We welcome all new comers to the arena. It's a learning exp so don't get discourage if you lose a lot, as you get more games in you will improve I can assure of that. :)

I am on Shiva now (for like 2-3 weeks) which I think is Chaos data center, before that I was on Diabolos which is Primal data center. I'm Malstrom and pvp Q is godawful. I feel as if NOBODY plays pvp in this datacenter. I almost always get 24-man matches after waiting for at least 1 hour with usually the same faces, are we the only 8 players across Chaos who play Malstrom pvp or what? I checked last weeks pvp leader boards, it appears on the japanese datacenter they (get to) play way more pvp than here. In the top 100 of Chaos data center the average number of games seems to be around 30-40, when I check the leaderboard for p.e. Elemental they seem to play roughly 70-80 matches, so I think they must have faster Qs. Then again, across all data center leaderboards I hardly see any Malstrom anymore, it's Adders and Legion everywhere. I mean, I'd rather lose every match and not make it into the list than not play pvp at all :( I'm thinking really really hard of switching to a jp datacenter just to be able to play pvp. Then again one of the reasons I left Diabolos was that I wanted to be around players of my own time zone but now I'm sitting on Shiva with endless pvp Q times so the server transfer didn't do well for me in that regard. On Diabolos it wasn't really better because there I was 6-9 hours ahead of everyone but also that was back in December when there was just one pvp map, Qs were really good. I just don't know what the reason is now, no available people, something wrong with the Q or what...