In Memorium (*SPOILER*)

Nanamo is Love, Nanamo WAS life. Such a sad day. Kicks ya right in the feels.
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This is so sad. I mean wow, SE should have killed another character instead. They chose the cutest and the most defenceless.

Also my character looked so stupid watching her die...

I really need to forget that sad 2.55 ending. Come on bring 3.0 with all the weird beastmen and primals!

Shes not dead.

I demand the ability to run around Ul'dah murdering everyone in sight for this regicide, or to go and cast raise on her taru ass.

Off topic but I have to ask...what's a level 50 HARVESTER? I know of botanist, miner and fisher but not harvester.

On topic, hopefully it's not a deadly poison, just something that puts her into a coma or extremely deep sleep that she appears to be dead. It's hard to say though. I felt really helpless when that entire scene happened.

Still so sad about this! :(

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Soon ! She will be back !
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She'll get her vengeance

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What if we get a Lady Stonehenge type thing? o.o (GoT fans should get this reference)

I'm assuming its because i do both mining and botany, but your guess is a good as mine lol

My feels tell me that she is still alive. No body and there's something up with the servant that gave the sultana the poisoned drink. If I recall correctly, Lolorito made a "tch" kind of noise, with a disapproving look, after she told him everything was going according to plan. Something is fishy here O-O

I am so sad those feels SE did a good job at the end of the MS good job SE but still sad ah my broken heart :(
and [spoiler] thancred whyyy he was a hot looking character [/spoiler]

Ok how do i add the spoiler option I can't tell if i did that right

I only knew of her a while, but she had a grace all her own that could show even a foreigner that the city, for all its hardships born out in the land and in the heart, was precious and redeemable. Whether for honor, avarice, or survival, it seems ironic that so many traits, opposed in many ways, could yet converge to save Ul'dah.

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Originally Posted by lololink

Soon ! She will be back !
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Necromancy and dark arts makes everything better!

Funny you mention that because:

The sultanate has the ingredient to make people zombies....

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Originally Posted by Kerwin

Shes not dead.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model

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Originally Posted by myahele

Funny you mention that because:

The sultanate has the ingredient to make people zombies....

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I think I also heard talk of Lolorito once possessing a dagger that could revive the dead.

I also set up my own little shrine.

Rest in peace Sultana.
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Originally Posted by LlenCoram

I also set up my own little shrine.

Rest in peace Sultana.
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so did i :(

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Hit me hard in the feels..

Oh god it's Aerith all over again, complete with the denial theories.

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Originally Posted by Hakuro89

Oh god it's Aerith all over again, complete with the denial theories.

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No, this is way worse. At least for me. .-. I started in Ul'dah. Nanamo was my favorite lala ever. First the red wedding, now this. This world doesn't love me... SE should fire George R.R. Martin...

When the servers were down for maintenance, some friends and I were discussing who was going to die in this patch. The majority suggested Yda and Papalymo. When I said it was going to be Nanamo, everyone's response was "YOU TAKE THAT BACK!"

Then they made me go sit in the corner and think about what I had done when I had logged on after the servers were up.

I just noticed something fishy about the cutscene!

After Nanamo drinks the poison, we can see for a brief moment, in her own perspective. Notice how there's a flash of white light before we return to the 3rd perspective. I thought it was pretty strange. Maybe she's still alive?

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Originally Posted by AdamFyi

I just noticed something fishy about the cutscene!

After Nanamo drinks the poison, we can see for a brief moment, in her own perspective. Notice how there's a flash of white light before we return to the 3rd perspective. I thought it was pretty strange. Maybe she's still alive?

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That's if you are coming out of unconciousness/comas, bright lights while losing conciousness usually mean death.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

That's if you are coming out of unconciousness/comas, bright lights while losing conciousness usually mean death.

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Ah, that's pretty sad. So it's most likely that she's dead. D:

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Originally Posted by Hakuro89

Oh god it's Aerith all over again, complete with the denial theories.

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Nah, not really. Well, narrative-wise anyway. Aeris' role was that of a semi-mentor/teased loved interest to Cloud, and the only person Sephiroth considered dangerous enough (with her half-understood connection to the Lifestream) to personally go after. There's a lot more that can be said in terms of narrative retrospection and analysis, but it can be boiled down to this: The death of Aeris was a lot like the death of Obi-Wan. Only our "Luke" character was an incredibly fragile headcase rather than a generally well-adjusted guy. :P

The assassination of the Sultana is more of part of a political intrigue story. The Game of Thrones comparisons are pretty apt. In FF terms, it's a turn of events that wouldn't feel at all out of place in any of the Ivalice games. In terms of our character's personal narrative, the biggest impact it has is twofold: The attempt to implicate you as the assassin, and whatever "headcanon" relationship your character had with her (to mine, the fairly respectable ruler of another state, to yours, perhaps the focus of absolute loyalty for whom you'dve gladly died instead). In the strictest sense, though, the conflict here is not "our" fight; it's Raubahn's, and by extension the Immortal Flames, the Sultanguard, and whomever else in Ul'dah that generally opposes the monetarists.

Only, of course, by trying to implicate you, the Monetarists have pulled you into the fight as well, and given our track record, that doesn't bode well for them.

Tamtara EX COMFIRMED!

...Or maybe this is based on Romeo & Juliet story? Like they put Nanamo to fake her dead.

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Originally Posted by Kerwin

Shes not dead.

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I actually hope all of them are dead when it show them in the cut scence. It just make it more dramatic and such an awesome ways to start a new Expansion. It's pointless to build up such a great dramatic story just to find out later none of them are dead. We need new main character NPC to fight for the cause in the new expansion.

Minfilia: Definitely not. And maybe she'll go on to do something interesting for once.

Thancred, Y'shtola, Yda, Papalymo: Probably not. Yda and Papalymo are probably jailed (next door to Raubahn, I wouldn't doubt) and Y'shtola and Thancred seem primed to show up in some dramatic turn (also, something about Thancred's English VA talking about being in Heavensward. EDIT: Confirmed. Around 10:20 here)

Nanamo: 99% certainly, to not be would be a hell of a contrivance after all that.

And of course,

Adeledji: Deadest. So deadest. He dead.

I had my little shrine to Nanamo set up before the patch even hit. My 1.0 character was originally from Ul'dah before I was migrated to Gridania for 2.0 on account of being a Conjurer. I have a lot of love for that huggable pink-haired sovereign, so when she was offed my first instinct was to curse the writers. My second was to kill Teledji. My third was to brutally murder Lolorito by tying him to wild chocobo's and sending them for a dash through Northern Thanalan.

Sadly, I didn't get to kill Teledji, but I still had that satisfaction. Lolorito on the other hand now deserves a far worse fate. I'm still deciding just how to ensure he dies in the most gratifying way possible.

I actually took Nanamo whiting out verses the many times we see ourselves black out, is her, well, dying.

Consider also the NPCs around Ul'dah. Their new commentary is either spreading the rumors of a Scion attempting to kill the Sultana, there being a massive cover-up of the real events, or that Nanamo is violently ill and getting no visitors. She's dead, but they don't want the general public to know.

And DAMN was watching Raubahn lose his shit was.... impressive.

Lets not forget Wilred...anyone remember him? :(

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Originally Posted by myahele

Lets not forget Wilred...anyone remember him? :(

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POOR WILRED

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Originally Posted by Ultear_Milkovich

This is so sad. I mean wow, SE should have killed another character instead. They chose the cutest and the most defenceless.

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That's precisely WHY they killed her.
Savvy players probably put 2 and 2 together as far back as the speech Raubahn and Nanamo give at the remembrance ceremony:
Merlwyb gives her speech alone, flanked by her attendants.
Kan-E gives her speech alone, flanked by her siblings and attendants.
Both Raubahn and Nanamo give a speech.
This means that, functionally, one of these characters is redundant and is thus being set up for either betrayal, or death.
Combine this with the not-so-subtle hints that the only thing keeping Ul'Dah from turning into a wretched hive of scum and villainy is the Sultana, and she may as well have a target painted on her cute little forehead.

There's actual precedent in-game for Nanamo to not be dead and for her to return. For those who don't/haven't visit(ed) the Lore forum please check out my post: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2883003

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Originally Posted by myahele

Lets not forget Wilred...anyone remember him? :(

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I liked that kid. He deserved better. Buncha dirty rats.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

And DAMN was watching Raubahn lose his shit was.... impressive.

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While it's a sad irony that such a thing came about due to basically the single worst thing that could ever have happened to him, Raubahn pretty much won the patch with his choice of reactions.

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Originally Posted by NoloeTazier

There's actual precedent in-game for Nanamo to not be dead and for her to return. For those who don't/haven't visit(ed) the Lore forum please check out my post: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2883003

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this is really, really stretching, though.
The laws of dramatic storytelling say that, due to the circumstances of her death (she dies in front of the player with witnesses in a semi-graphic way and leaves a corpse) she is deader than disco and floppy disks.
Her only avenues for return are as a zombie, dream, Ascian impostor, or some form of spirit guide.
Nanamo is as dead as Aerith and Teta, with the same basic results and purpose.

Hehehehe. Dumbledoresnotdead.com over again. Frankly I'd be disapointed if Teledji is the only one to stay dead.

Aerith, Dumbledore, Puma D. Ace, Mufasa, Robb Stark, Tupac, Elvis and now Nanamo... yeah, history repeats. :cool: Denial is strong.