Confirmation Prompt for "Sort" command, please!

"Sort" command is a little too close to "Discard" command and it often happens I have a misclick on that that screws all my inventory and takes a lot to put things back like they were.
Can we have at least the option to put a Confirmation Prompt for that? There is a similar option for other Prompts already.

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Originally Posted by Taekrys

"Sort" command is a little too close to "Discard" command and it often happens I have a misclick on that that screws all my inventory and takes a lot to put things back like they were.
Can we have at least the option to put a Confirmation Prompt for that? There is a similar option for other Prompts already.

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Do you actually LIKE having confirmation prompts for every little thing that we have? like putting items in the fc chest, taking it back out, selling a spiritbonded item, and converting a spiritbonded item? I say we could deal with a little less confirmation :)
Btw, sort already puts items together by category unless you're very specific about organization method :) once you get used to it, I'm sure you'll find it to be rather convenient.

I've had this happen to me a few times and it's annoying as fuck getting everything back where it was. I wouldn't mind Confirmation for this, cause you know, people accidently click the wrong thing and people have their Inventories set up different ways outside of the Game Sorting methods to make it way more convenient for them. Dat Reset Retainer Class Option thats right next to the Quit Option would be the worst thing in the world without the Confirmation Hur hur huuuuur

Well I'm not saying I'd be against the idea since Sort is a function that you only use once and are done with, until next time.
But all the confirmation for moving stuff in and out of fc chest, ugh that just kills me.. sometimes I just log into my friend's account on my laptop and just mail the stuff back and forth to my alt because it's actually faster than dragging the item to the fc chest slot and confirming.. then waiting for the stupid server lag to finish(if you do it too fast, you get an error) then put the next one in... UGH

I use the sort option WAY too many times per day to even fathom a prompt for it.
My suggestion to you would be to sort your stuff using the sort feature, and learn how that's managed instead of managing your own logistics.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

I use the sort option WAY too many times per day to even fathom a prompt for it.
My suggestion to you would be to sort your stuff using the sort feature, and learn how that's managed instead of managing your own logistics.

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Agree with this. The system's sort is very nice, sorting things by function and type, rather than doing something stupid like sorting them alphabetically. I have no trouble finding what I need out of the system sort order. My advice would be to use it, and then you not only have no worries about accidentally sorting things, you'll never waste time on manually sorting things again. I use the sort function dozens of times a day and a confirmation prompt would drive me batty.

Confirmation IF and ONLY IF it had an option to turn it off. Another MMO (can't remember which one) had a confirm on sort and I hated it. Was annoying to click the sort button then click the yes button every time. (think it was RIFT)

Confirmation prompt with an on/off switch for that specific (or any other) prompt = everyone happy.

Yay, let's ask game developers to take the time and effort to implement something for... people who can't look at what they are clicking. This request reminds me of a picture somewhere online, pointing out that back in the day, games were hard, people had to work them out for themselves; where as modern games have endless instructions and hand holding (and confirmation boxes).

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Originally Posted by Darra

Yay, let's ask game developers to take the time and effort to implement something for... people who can't look at what they are clicking. This request reminds me of a picture somewhere online, pointing out that back in the day, games were hard, people had to work them out for themselves; where as modern games have endless instructions and hand holding (and confirmation boxes).

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You have a nasty attitude.. you should feel bad.

Can we have confirmation prompts for confirmation prompts too? :D
Sorry, I'm the opposite. I like to be able to quickly sort my gear without another confirmation box.

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Originally Posted by Satia

You have a nasty attitude.. you should feel bad.

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Thanks for informing me of what I should and shouldn't do. I should kick you in your cat face, but my Lala cankles prevent my feet from raising that high.

Ugh please no confirmation on Sort. I use it all the time... the only time I don't is on one of my retainer's where I have everything sorted by gearset. Of course, Nothing gets discarded in there.

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Originally Posted by Gillionaire

Do you actually LIKE having confirmation prompts for every little thing that we have?

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No, Gill, I've been misunderstood. I'm not asking for a Confirmation Prompt, I'm asking for a Confirmation Prompt OPTION.
If you check you Character Configuration menu you will notice that other Confirmation Prompts already can be checked or unchecked.
In fact, if you don't like having Confirmation Prompt, you can remove them flagging off that option.
I would like there to be an option like the ones already there for selling items to the vendor, a simple "Use Confirmation Prompt for Sort command." to make you choose if keep it flagged or unflagged.

About organization method I'm not against it, the problem with Sort command is that it shuffle useless things like gil items among your useful-first-page items. People usually keep important stuff first and then sellable/storable things on the other inventory pages. If they get shuffled within, it becomes a mess.

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Originally Posted by Satia

You have a nasty attitude.. you should feel bad.

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He didn't say it in the nicest of ways, but it's true FF14 UI has too much redundancy.. I don't need 3 different confirmations to be sure when I put an item into my fc chest... Also, what's with the FC chest deposit to begin with anyway?? You can't just right click and have it go in the first available slot, you have to actually drag every little thing one by one.. On a controller that's probably not an issue but it's annoying to drag mouse back and forth 50 times just to fill a tab.. Only to take it back out a little bit less inefficiently (right click actually works for taking items OUT.. I wonder why the difference is there) soon after.

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Originally Posted by Taekrys

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Oh I see,
Yes, in that case I'm 100% behind UI customization. The game really could use a lot of.. I mean a LOT of UI customization. That's why I can't wait until addons are introduced.. But seriously, when ARE we getting addons? :(

Wonder how difficult it would be to add an extra option on a single button. Say sort is a clickable button that will sort upon command but you can descend within that menu with options like advanced sort settings, search for specific item, save/load sort, and undo.

Example is like right clicking on your desktop you get a basic menu (as you would right clicking on an item) and then you can go to "sort by" and get more options, but in this case the "sort by" button itself would be "sort" a left clickable action while perhaps a right click would show you the nested menu. Probably not a feature to be added in a few minutes, maybe a lot of work - though I'd be a little disappointed if it wasn't a feature-able possibility given they are trying to bring addon support.

Let's confirm the confirmation is confirmed.


Thx but NO. I sort my stuff all the time through that command to have to confirm it all the time.

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Originally Posted by Taekrys

"Sort" command is a little too close to "Discard" command and it often happens I have a misclick on that that screws all my inventory and takes a lot to put things back like they were.
Can we have at least the option to put a Confirmation Prompt for that? There is a similar option for other Prompts already.

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This would be great but only for the 0.00000001% players who cant click on a function properly (cant imagine people like that during a fight lol)

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Originally Posted by Satia

You have a nasty attitude.. you should feel bad.

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No. I gave him a star.

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Originally Posted by Gillionaire

Do you actually LIKE having confirmation prompts for every little thing that we have? like putting items in the fc chest, taking it back out, selling a spiritbonded item, and converting a spiritbonded item? I say we could deal with a little less confirmation :)
Btw, sort already puts items together by category unless you're very specific about organization method :) once you get used to it, I'm sure you'll find it to be rather convenient.

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This is actually one of the few things in the game that should indeed have a confirmation prompt. Sort screws up any sort of custom organising.

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Originally Posted by Ultear_Milkovich

No. I gave him a star.

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A star from someone with an S level of bad attitude.

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Originally Posted by Gillionaire

He didn't say it in the nicest of ways, but it's true FF14 UI has too much redundancy.. I don't need 3 different confirmations to be sure when I put an item into my fc chest...

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Might I enquire what happend to your ability to sort on-topic and off-topic matters? Or to actually have valid points. I don't see what the many redundant confirmation options have to do with requesting a confirmation option in a place where it would actually be of use.

Ability to toggle off the sort function completely in config

I know a lot of players arrange their inventory in a certain way and sorting by accident really mess things up.
The sort function have absolutely no use to them but messing up their way of organization.

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Originally Posted by Ultear_Milkovich

This would be great but only for the 0.00000001% players who cant click on a function properly

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There is no need to make such hyperbolic comments to emphatize how stupid you think I am.
You are probably a Keyboard gamer, so you don't know that the most of us Gamepad gamer push UP-UP-X to Discard Items. Sometimes, 1 out of 500 times, we misclick UP-UP-X for UP-X and a lot of trash that we wanted to delete end shuffled between useful stuffs.

Now, I'm happy you are a brilliant player who thinks people who does that mistake are stupid players. Then yes, I'm happy to confirm, I'm a stupid player who sometimes misclick that.
Am I asking to change something that would bother you?
No, I'm simply asking to add a checkable option in the configuration menu to add that possibility.
And by the way, if the 99.99999999% of players is obnoxious as you are, I'm happy being in the latter 0.000000001%.

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Originally Posted by Taekrys

You are probably a Keyboard gamer, so you don't know that the most of us Gamepad gamer push UP-UP-X to Discard Item.

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Ive been on PS3 since the game release and upgraded to the PS4 ten days ago. always played with the Dualshock in hand .

Your argument is invalid.

I disagree. I use sort constantly throughout the day and I have 4 retainers and do a lot of gathering and what not. This game already has confirmations up the wazzoo in fact it's awful at times. Like you gotta click a check box just to click the confirmation to delete certain items from your inventory lol.

I mean I've had those moments where I was sorting all my gathering materials I plan to sell to the bottom right of my inventory so they are away from everything else for me to easily look at and see how many I have then I accidentally sort it. Minor inconvenience that does NOT equal the inconvenience that would be created from having a confirmation box. You will waste significantly more time on a SORT confirmation window than correcting your mistakes from clicking sort accidentally.

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Originally Posted by Aeyis

This is actually one of the few things in the game that should indeed have a confirmation prompt. Sort screws up any sort of custom organising.

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Then dont click on "Sort" if you, i dont know... dont want to sort? Its not an automatic function.
It wont sort if you dont click. The developers did their job right.

People made a mistake once - due to lack of attention - with no serious consequence (i mean this is not like throwing a job cristal away) and then ask for a game patch to prevent this from happening again. Really?

hopefully SE has a lot of much more serious things to do.

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Originally Posted by Taekrys

"Sort" command is a little too close to "Discard" command and it often happens I have a misclick on that that screws all my inventory and takes a lot to put things back like they were.
Can we have at least the option to put a Confirmation Prompt for that? There is a similar option for other Prompts already.

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Easier solution would be to put "Discard" farther away from "Sort"
Or play with controller. 2 push on d-pad up and you are on "Discard"

I use controller and use both sort and custom. I use sort when I have all the items in my inventory I want to keep and let the rest of the inventory slots be filled up as I play through out the day. Then I sort what I got manually...in reverse. I put all the stuff I want to hand in for GC seals at the very bottom and the stuff I want to sell to npc right after it while keeping the stuff I want to throw to my retainer right after all the sorted inventory from before. Then I keep playing again until I stop by a city. I have never accidentally auto sorted my inventory.

Prompts for this are absolutely unnecessary.

I've had this happen a couple of times and it did piss me off. I don't like the way the game only sorts one way which is why I customize.

The best solution is just to have a configuration setting for what 'type' of sorting you like. Default, Alpha, or Prompt for example.

Please no, not unless it's optional. I sort all the time and it would get tiresome to have to confirm it every time.

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Originally Posted by Aeyis

Might I enquire what happend to your ability to sort on-topic and off-topic matters? Or to actually have valid points. I don't see what the many redundant confirmation options have to do with requesting a confirmation option in a place where it would actually be of use.

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No, that was off topic, hence why I agreed, for such a feature that is seldom used, a confirmation wouldn't really be a bad idea. I was just weighing in my two cents from having to confirm every little action as that's really been bugging me a great deal lately (been moving items between my alts and rearranging them using the fc chest.. it wears on you.. )

I would love a confirmation prompt for sort if there were some ways to customize it. I use it for my retainer inventories, but for my own inventory, I prefer to be organized. Potions and food at the back, free slots in the front for quick access to discard/sell junk or newly crafted gear, and other stuff like that. The sort button screws up pretty much my whole inventory and then I have to put everything back to their original places. Personally, clicking on prompts isn't nearly as annoying as having a personal customized inventory messed up by one small flick of the wrist.

I agree that an ui option for removing/disabling sort would be the best solution. It wouldnt effect anyone that frequently sorts, and would remove the risk of incidental sorting for those that wish to avoid it.

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Originally Posted by Gillionaire

No, that was off topic, hence why I agreed, for such a feature that is seldom used, a confirmation wouldn't really be a bad idea. I was just weighing in my two cents from having to confirm every little action as that's really been bugging me a great deal lately (been moving items between my alts and rearranging them using the fc chest.. it wears on you.. )

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Can very much relate to that sentiment. Overall I find all the confirmation requests to be one of the most annoying things in the game. (the other one being the server side delay on ui interaction)

Altho for me the delay weighs more I guess. Hopefully once ps3 support is made obsolete they can look into upgrading their servers and removing that server delay.