We need ffxiv to help save ffxi

https://www.change.org/p/株式会社スクウェア-エニックス-ファイナルファンタジーxi開発の継続

This is a petition started by a nice person that wishes to continue ffxi.

There's an English translation about halfway down the page.

Petitioning for more expansions and more story for the game many love, many grew up on, and many play to this day.

I know this post may very well get locked. So please help while you can. And mods please keep this unlocked if possible, and even go sign yourselves. =)

We really don't. FFXI has had a good, long run. Nearly 15 years. It's time to let it rest.

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Originally Posted by Zaft

We really don't. FFXI has had a good, long run. Nearly 15 years. It's time to let it rest.

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But many of us still love the game, and many things in the game. It's had a good run, and can still have more. That's what we are trying to do

http://tinyurl.com/Saveffxi

I made a tinyurl since the other one is half Japanese lol so it's easyer

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Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72

But many of us still love the game, and many things in the game. It's had a good run, and can still have more. That's what we are trying to do

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the thing is the game has gone for 15 years, they should leave the servers on or let fans create there servers and drop the subscription so fans can continue playing it, but it is a old game it has to end sooner or later.

They should just let the game go free to play or at the very least allow those with an active FFXIV sub to play FFXI for free.

As far as new content, it really has had a good run and I think it would be best to let it be.

Honestly the fact they are still going to keep the servers running is more than could be asked for.

Free to play isn't that simple. There needs to be a source or revenue somewhere to pay for server expenses, staff and whatnot. They can't keep leaking money onto the servers just so people can keep logging in.

*cue Shiva singing "Let It Go"*

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Re-balance it for solo play and let people play it privately or with friends. The Borderlands model.

Not that it would be easy to do obviously.

Also, I would like more games set in Vana'diel

Pretty sure the petition starter just gave up.

Perhaps the best thing is to offer a legacy player style discount subscription to FFXI players who have yet to move to FFXIV? Heck, nominate a world or two as FFXI refugee centers so the players can keep their community together as they move to FFXIV...

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Originally Posted by Hexy

*cue Shiva singing "Let It Go"*

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No king rules forever, my son.

I think you have some massive misinformation. In 2016 they are shutting down PS2 and XBOX support. It will be shutdown in the future after (last expansion iirc?)
Either way, RIP FF11 may nostalgia rest in peace.


Happy reading: http://www.gamepolitics.com/2015/03/...6#.VRQyofnF98E

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

Perhaps the best thing is to offer a legacy player style discount subscription to FFXI players who have yet to move to FFXIV? Heck, nominate a world or two as FFXI refugee centers so the players can keep their community together as they move to FFXIV...

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The problem is the fact that the people who are most enamored with XI have no love for XIV as they are two fundamentally different game designs. Therefore, XIV wouldn't be the game for them to come to if they're looking for the XI experience. Unfortunately, with the way games are designed now, finding a game similar to XI will be very difficult.

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Originally Posted by Mardel

I think you have some massive misinformation. In 2016 they are shutting down PS2 and XBOX support. It will be shutdown in the future after (last expansion iirc?)
Either way, RIP FF11 may nostalgia rest in peace.


Happy reading: http://www.gamepolitics.com/2015/03/...6#.VRQyofnF98E

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I'm not worried about them shutting down the pc version which isiwhat I play, and can still play for some time. I just would be happy if they would add more new content

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Originally Posted by Ghishlain

The problem is the fact that the people who are most enamored with XI have no love for XIV as they are two fundamentally different game designs. Therefore, XIV wouldn't be the game for them to come to if they're looking for the XI experience. Unfortunately, with the way games are designed now, finding a game similar to XI will be very difficult.

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I know, and I do, honestly, feel their pain. I have lost a game before due to a very early shut down, and there isn't anything quite like it, although FFXIV is probably the closest fit. I was just thinking that it would be a nice gesture to the players who have shown continued loyalty to SE with FFXI. Granted not everyone will want to transition, but it would still be a good way for SE to show that they are different from most other game companies, and return the loyalty their customers have shown them.

I say this as an old ffxi hardcore player, so it hurts, but there's a time when you have to let a MMO die, now if the petition were to turn it into a single player, or client based multiplayer, i would gladly sign it.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

I know, and I do, honestly, feel their pain. I have lost a game before due to a very early shut down, and there isn't anything quite like it, although FFXIV is probably the closest fit. I was just thinking that it would be a nice gesture to the players who have shown continued loyalty to SE with FFXI. Granted not everyone will want to transition, but it would still be a good way for SE to show that they are different from most other game companies, and return the loyalty their customers have shown them.

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While I can appreciate said gesture, I know some of the more elite crowd of XI will look at it as a spit in the face. "What, you want us to play that TRASH?" would be one of the responses (I can think of one very particular individual who would be like that).

I personally wouldn't said appreciation campaign as I played XI from Wings of the Goddess to when XIV was released and enjoyed it greatly. It's a great game that's unfortunately very unfriendly to new players and thus not really marketable in the current MMO meta.

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Originally Posted by Renik

I say this as an old ffxi hardcore player, so it hurts, but there's a time when you have to let a MMO die, now if the petition were to turn it into a single player, or client based multiplayer, i would gladly sign it.

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Supposedly the two cellphone apps they're working on for XI's continuation are just that - a single player client as well as a multiplayer based lobby to adventure into Vana'diel with. I'm curious to see more about these.

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Originally Posted by Renik

I say this as an old ffxi hardcore player, so it hurts, but there's a time when you have to let a MMO die, now if the petition were to turn it into a single player, or client based multiplayer, i would gladly sign it.

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^ Best said here. I've been with XI since release to 2014, so yeah, it hurts, and I miss it everyday. Even if you were able to get them to make content for another few years, it still going to fade away at some point.

Yes, I saw the cell phone thing, would play it for sure that way. If people haven't noticed SE is starting to make massive pushes in Mobile Departments. Don't be surprised to see things like Bravely Default Android etc... in the near future. FF: Explorers would be awesome to have as a mobile game as well. (This may be the approach they take with FF:11)

Please make it Free-to-play! It could boost up some people in the game.
It's better than shutting the servers down completely but I think F2P with CS
and bla bla would probably help. I'd try it if it's F2P.

What made ffXI so unique and different from ff14? I looked at ff11 website and looks like alot of the stuff fromf ff11 are in ff14 and a imagine future jobs coming for ff14 will be modeled after ff11 jobs.

i read somewhere they are porting XI to mobile devices where you can do stuff together with friends on a small scale in the world of Vana'diel, not MMORPG scale though.

In the Japanese market mobile games are huge. PSVita, Nintendo DS, huuuuge in Japan. Mobile devices today are as powerful as pc's were 8-12 years ago. I look forward to see how this mobile version of vanadiel will turn out.

Phantasy Star Online 2 is another huge game in Japan that has a PC version that cross platforms with a PS Vita version and theres also a smart phone version of the game thats stand alone more or less a single player version of the game.

A petition isn't going to help.. MMOs need renevue to run, so the best way to "vote" for one's continuation is to make sure there are lots of players still paying for it.. If you no longer have that, of course expansions will stop.

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Originally Posted by AzraelX

What made ffXI so unique and different from ff14? I looked at ff11 website and looks like alot of the stuff fromf ff11 are in ff14 and a imagine future jobs coming for ff14 will be modeled after ff11 jobs.

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For one, the 22 jobs it had were completely unique to each other. No one job was alike to the one next to it, they all had different roles and responsibilities. In this game, all the jobs play the exact same way. 1-2-3 and a dot and you're good. The secondary thing is that you leveled and that it wasn't known as the tutorial, it was the game. Leveling and the game went hand in hand. So you didn't just level to the cap and then begin to play the game, there were things to do at every level. This game? 1-50 = glorified tutorial where everything happens after 50.

Gear. You get sets in this game and then in 6 months, you get a completely new one, dumping your old one at the GC.
In XI, you get tons of equipment that you were supposed to use for specific things and macro change out. Basically, when you went WHM to something, your only gear on you would be your various WHM gear sets.

The lore is...really really involved and expanded in that game. FFXIV is just getting started but even so, the lore in this game isn't nearly as deep as XI in my opinion. It uses other FF games to pull people into things for easy bang and buck. Like the raid towers... In XI, those are original concepts fueled by original bosses and mobs. In XIV, it's the original FFs.

XI peeps think that this game is a copy of WoW in a lot of ways. I agree with them on those points.

And XI still does have people paying for it. The content is stopping so that the company can better focus its assets elsewhere and stop being so divided. I'm guess that they decided that they finally wanted to pull the rest into XIV and give it their all.

yoshi-P even said this game is a copy of WoW. WoW was his favorite MMO. He wanted to introduce it to Japanese players. Basically, Yoshi-P's entire plan was to use FFXIV as a huge advertisement for World of Warcraft. /shrug

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Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72

But many of us still love the game, and many things in the game. It's had a good run, and can still have more. That's what we are trying to do

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But many more of us don't like what SE did with XI in these later years and no longer wish to play it and prefer it to let it end in peace. I was one of the last of all my many friends to keep playing it especially after server closings, level cap removals, increased running speeds to make the world feel smaller, trivializing leveling, etc. I'm sorry, but the game just isn't what it used to be.

It's time to focus on new projects, like FFXIV for example.

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Originally Posted by Rhas

But many more of us don't like what SE did with XI in these later years and no longer wish to play it and prefer it to let it end in piece. I was one of the last of all my many friends to keep playing it especially after server closings, level cap removals, increased running speeds to make the world feel smaller, trivializing leveling, etc. I'm sorry, but the game just isn't what it used to be.

It's time to focus on new projects, like FFXIV for example.

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This quote and also maybe I would play XI again it they had a dual sub for XI/XIV but I dropped XI when XIV came out cause couldn't afford nor was going to be 2 different subscriptions.

Thank for the explanation. ff11 did have a lot of jobs... IMO seems a bit overwhelming reminds of ffX-2 with the dress-spheres..yea its options but many of the jobs were not very effective- dark knight was the strongest..I just got all 3 characters to high level dark knight and the game was a breeze.

If they are indeed moving more resources to ff14 than I'm all for it.

No.

I still remember a lot of FFXI players that came to FFXIV and criticize the game for not being FFXI-2.

I don't feel a tad bit sorry if FFXI gets shutdown.

I never played WOW but WOW was and still is very successful. The fact that the crfeator plans to compete and model the game after WOW- makes me feel hopeful for the game. I personally think we need more PVP options and a duel mode so you can fight other players i nthe open world for achievement points/ just for fun.

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Originally Posted by Chasely

yoshi-P even said this game is a copy of WoW. WoW was his favorite MMO. He wanted to introduce it to Japanese players. Basically, Yoshi-P's entire plan was to use FFXIV as a huge advertisement for World of Warcraft. /shrug

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You have a lot to learn about how video game companies work

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Originally Posted by Gramul

Re-balance it for solo play and let people play it privately or with friends. The Borderlands model.

Not that it would be easy to do obviously.

Also, I would like more games set in Vana'diel

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You can play it solo now, you can get copies of characters in game to summon and do stuff with they are called trusts

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Originally Posted by Ghishlain

Supposedly the two cellphone apps they're working on for XI's continuation are just that - a single player client as well as a multiplayer based lobby to adventure into Vana'diel with. I'm curious to see more about these.

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Originally Posted by KaedrianLiang

i read somewhere they are porting XI to mobile devices where you can do stuff together with friends on a small scale in the world of Vana'diel, not MMORPG scale though.

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one of the announcements they made was they are working with NEXON to make a full port of FFXI to mobile devices. if you head over to the playonline website and look for he announcement from the producer he mentions it.

I think it's safe to say FFXI will be sticking around for a while longer atleast. I don't think they would work on a mobile port of the full game if they were just going to drop it not long after stopping PS2/xb360 support

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Originally Posted by Rhas

But many more of us don't like what SE did with XI in these later years and no longer wish to play it and prefer it to let it end in peace. I was one of the last of all my many friends to keep playing it especially after server closings, level cap removals, increased running speeds to make the world feel smaller, trivializing leveling, etc. I'm sorry, but the game just isn't what it used to be.

It's time to focus on new projects, like FFXIV for example.

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The same could be said for this game as well.

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Originally Posted by Velox

You have a lot to learn about how video game companies work

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Please, elucidate me. tell me absolutely everything there is to know about the video game industry -- and how said companies work.

For me FFXI stop been FFXI when the shattonto add-ons started and finally with abbysea. After that it began the 75-99 just level and at 99 you can start enjoy the content and even at 99 you needed to get some gear solo to actually do end-game effective.

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Originally Posted by Rhas

But many more of us don't like what SE did with XI in these later years and no longer wish to play it and prefer it to let it end in peace. I was one of the last of all my many friends to keep playing it especially after server closings, level cap removals, increased running speeds to make the world feel smaller, trivializing leveling, etc. I'm sorry, but the game just isn't what it used to be.

It's time to focus on new projects, like FFXIV for example.

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I'm with you on this, because it's exactly how I feel about XI. I loved the game, it was my first and favorite mmo, but I much rather remember it the way it was than try to play through what it's become.