At the SE booth I saw Deus Ex, Wakfu, and FFXIII-2 (which looked pretty decent). I was hoping to see something on XIV to give people an easy way to see all the changes that have been made, but there was nothing there. Kinda sad. I've said before this game is gonna need a media/advertising push from SE if it's gonna recover. It doesn't look like they're interested.
FFXIV disavowed at PAX
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08-31-2011, 01:18 AMEekikiFFXIV disavowed at PAX
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08-31-2011, 01:19 AMPrettyPrincess
I think once they have all the core changes made they will move in that direction
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08-31-2011, 01:20 AMJackDaniels
There's no point to even bring up FFXIV until it's ready for ps3. Honestly at this point FFXIV is an embarassment for SE and maybe the longer people who don't play this game go with forgetting it even existed, the better the chances of re-hyping said gamers will be?
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08-31-2011, 01:20 AMChardrizard
No point to advertise at this point, it still not up there yet.
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08-31-2011, 01:21 AMCairdeas
They said they wont be doing any Convention visits for XIV until they are ready. Because its too exhausting for the staff like Yoshi-P to be traveling to present. I do agree they should have atleast set up a quick video with some of the outlined current and future changes with simple text explanations and stuff.
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08-31-2011, 01:22 AMKailok
I've even heard that FFXIV won't be at TGS either. I think it's because they want to make sure things have changed a lot before they start showing it off. From our point of view, the game has changed a lot so far, but to the world of people who haven't been keeping up, they might not realize the differences. I think SE wants to wait at least until Jobs are pushed out to start showing FFXIV off, but that's just my own prediction on the matter.
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08-31-2011, 01:22 AMJackDanielsTo demonstrate what? Shiny new level up graphics and auto attack? "Whoah look at the size of those Marmots!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Cairdeas
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08-31-2011, 01:24 AMMurugan
Yoshi said he wasn't attending game conferences because it would send the wrong message when they are in the midst of a crisis/serious revamp of the game.
I'm pretty happy about that decision personally. I don't know if you have ever attended a convention/exhibition of any kind in a professional sense but they are huge drains on manpower/time/money which right now should be 100% focused on improving XIV. This game does not need marketing right now. -
08-31-2011, 01:26 AMOnidemonIt's quite normal. The game needs a lot more work before they can show it off. The basics are not even finished yet and the content is very much lacking. Once they got all that nailed down, you will hear and see a lot more about FFXIV. They keep it all for the PS3 lunch as it will be for them a kind of relunch/2nd lunch for the game and with all the changes in they will then be able to show it off and brag about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eekiki
Right now they would only be saying "well.... it's a crappy game.. it's empty, nothing to do and broken but we are working on it and one of these days it will be great!" ... pple dont want to hear that.. it's bad business... -
08-31-2011, 01:29 AMEsk
You'll probably see a start on advertising early next year..
Any time before that the game will still be a long way from ready for a relaunch.
While they have pushed hard on the core system changes (for better and worse) the content hole of the game is still massive, and while 1.19 will help with that I don't think until were into the late 1.2x patches that they can start to think about Ps3 and showing the game off. -
08-31-2011, 01:30 AMsyntaxliesyou have to look at it through there eyes, the game is no where near complete and is still a huge embarrassment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eekiki
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08-31-2011, 01:31 AMDoctorMogYou just started playing 2 days ago and you already have the doomsday attitude.Quote:
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08-31-2011, 01:32 AMJackDanielsSorry I didn't really mean it that way, I was trying to convey the attitude of people who would possibly be interested in playing this game but are afraid to invest time into it based on the reviews of consumers and professional alike.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoctorMog
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I've been playing since day one actually, I have the CE. BTN46, CRP50 -
08-31-2011, 01:33 AMDoctorMogAh, you responded while I was editing.Quote:
Originally Posted by JackDaniels
careful what you say around here. There is a large debate over every. little. detail. of what this game needs. -
08-31-2011, 01:33 AMCairdeasAuto AttackQuote:
Originally Posted by JackDaniels
Dungeons,
Chocobos
Homes
Hub areas
Beastmen Lairs
New Algorithms for stats
New Race Gender Choices
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08-31-2011, 01:37 AMJackDanielsAll of these things are available in the game right now??Quote:
Originally Posted by Cairdeas
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08-31-2011, 01:39 AMCairdeasI said CURRENT AND FUTURE.Quote:
Originally Posted by JackDaniels
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08-31-2011, 01:39 AMJackDanielsI can see that lol. I can also see Cairdeas is a crusader lol :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DoctorMog
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08-31-2011, 01:39 AMPrettyPrincess
lrn2read gawd
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08-31-2011, 01:41 AMCairdeasPeople read what they want to read or wait for other people to read it for them and describe it to them. That is how SE got in trouble with Surplus even though its the same system as Rested XP from other MMO's (Albeit more Strict for serious longer term grind sessions)Quote:
Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess
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08-31-2011, 01:43 AMJackDanielsWhile I understand where you are coming from, I hate forum nazis who take everything a step too far lol. I'll save us some grief here and just put you on my block list MZ, you disgusted me on eorzeapedia and I can see you'll continue to disgust me here :) good day to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cairdeas
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08-31-2011, 01:46 AMPrettyPrincess
should know gamez are srs bsnz gais
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08-31-2011, 01:48 AMDarkshade
XIV has a long way to go before SE can begin to try and re-market it.
Even with the patches it's getting now and in the distant future I don't think it will be decent enough for the general populace for another year. -
08-31-2011, 01:49 AMsyntaxlieswhile these things seem great to us, they are hardly anything to brag about. Most mmo's come with all these thing out of the box. The point of marketing is to sway consumers, not brag about how you product doesn't suck as much as it used too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cairdeas
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08-31-2011, 02:09 AMXatsh
I highly doubt SE will show anything about FFXIV in any public setting until they finish all the additions and changes and are ready for P2P and PS3 launch.
Yoshida said their would be a comeback campaign and advertising and such at that time.
Makes sense, the game was slaughtered by reviewers due to its release in a near alpha stage. Not a good idea showing everyone what it is like in the middle of beta more or less.
Let them Finish it, Polish it, then show everyone what the new FFXIV is. That will make the biggest impact. -
08-31-2011, 02:12 AMEekiki
You're all correct, of course, but at least a single machine with a demo would've been nice. I wasn't expecting Yoshi-P to be there doing the Snoopy dance.
I mean, the Guild Wars 2 booth was this giant thing, even though it was almost exactly the same as last year's, and it's clear Arenanet has done zero development on the game this past year while they continued to milk the teats of their Korean overlords (they were even giving away the same crummy t-shirts). -
08-31-2011, 02:21 AMCendres
Even a demo would send the wrong message, outside of the FFXIV forum bubble there just isn't enough to really wow anyone that either ambivalent about the game or quit a long time ago.
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08-31-2011, 02:54 AMPicoman
Tbh i had to look up the word disavowed, 'To disclaim knowledge of', first time I've seen it lol. Dunno if i would say they did that but defo didn't wanna talk about it.
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08-31-2011, 03:01 AMCendresI wouldn't they're just not talking about it because what they have to say isn't something people at the convention are going to get excited about when they have other titles to show instead. I hear Deus Ex is really good stuff and XIII-2 needs to be seen considering how XIII was received.Quote:
Originally Posted by Picoman
And really any good PR for SE is great right now for them and XIV, if people see them releasing good games maybe they'll start thinking all is not lost for FFXIV. ?! ^_^ -
08-31-2011, 03:59 AMCairdeasDeus Ex is very very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cendres
Mission Accomplished.Quote:
Originally Posted by JackDaniels
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08-31-2011, 04:38 AMPhysic
they really shouldnt promote the game at all until they have a new product/direction with a strong marketable hook for the masses.
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08-31-2011, 04:42 AMPlatinumstormThis game isn't ready for any sort of public push.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eekiki
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08-31-2011, 05:46 AMZahak
No its too soon! wait for job system :)
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08-31-2011, 07:26 AMNeptuneMaybe they're not interested in damage control.. smart of them to try to fly under the radar for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eekiki
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08-31-2011, 09:06 AMSAMINUS
At least SiliconEra is posting frequently about this game and the changes that have been made. I do wish SE would fire up some advertising soon. I am sure they will once they feel the game is worthy of it. Perhaps for PS3 launch ^^.
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08-31-2011, 09:11 AMDeli
I know I was /bigsad
but ya it's not that much benefit to attract more new players now...