Hello, i'm a returner.

Hello, i would consider myself as a noob but i'm willing to learn more about this game and MMO in general.
I always screw up in duties (Duty finder) such as the dragon that heals itself from a pool of poison, just wondering if anyone can tutor me in this game! XD
(By the way what does "ig", nfc and "gg"<-I guess it's not good game :\)

Sorry I'm not on your server but I'm sure someone from Shiva will read this :)
GG is in fact Good Game but mostly used in a sarcastic way when someone doesnt do/know the mechanic and misses to do it right.
"ig" is simply "in-game" where you oppe "rl" to aka "real life"
With nfc I cannot help you never heard/read this abbreviation :/

GL finding a good helper :)

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Originally Posted by NekoEric

Hello, i would consider myself as a noob but i'm willing to learn more about this game and MMO in general.
I always screw up in duties (Duty finder) such as the dragon that heals itself from a pool of poison, just wondering if anyone can tutor me in this game! XD
(By the way what does "ig", nfc and "gg"<-I guess it's not good game :\)

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First off, Welcome :)

I'm not on your server either, but the best you can do is probably post in your Servers' subforum.
You'll have an easier time finding a tutor (Unless you don't mind switching servers, I won't mind to help you out. My info is next to my Portrait <- )
If you have specific issues you can always post them here and we can help and advise you.

In regards to the abbreviations:
GG = Good Game / Good group. Like Werhusky says though it sometimes gets used sarcastically.
IG = In game
NFC = No F-ing Clue

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Originally Posted by Werhusky

Sorry I'm not on your server but I'm sure someone from Shiva will read this :)
GG is in fact Good Game but mostly used in a sarcastic way when someone doesnt do/know the mechanic and misses to do it right.

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Really? I say that alot every time a group finished a fate, and duties. XD
Also that must of mean i wasn't doing the duty properly, how do you know what to do exactly in duty finder?
Thanks for the good luck and translating abbreviations :)

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Originally Posted by Nerael

You'll have an easier time finding a tutor (Unless you don't mind switching servers, I won't mind to help you out. My info is next to my Portrait <- )
If you have specific issues you can always post them here and we can help and advise you.

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I won't be doing a server switch, because i don't want to spend more money.
I won't hesitate to ask, this community seems really friendly in my opinion. :D
Thanks for the welcome and translating abbreviations :)

Experience is the best way to learn but you can find guides to fight mechanics in dungeons. For lower level dungeons there are some here:

https://www.youtube.com/user/MTQcapture/videos

Make sure you look at the right ones though cause she also has the HARD mode versions for some of the low level dungeons that only happen at level 50. The ones you are after are right down the bottom.

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Originally Posted by NekoEric

how do you know what to do exactly in duty finder?

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Either by running them repeatedly until you figure out the mechanics, or by looking up info ahead of time. (But if you want to learn them in-game while running them, it's better to go in with a group of friends who know that's the plan. Sometimes DF parties will get annoyed if you don't already know the basics.)

Lots of people recommend finding videos of the dungeons to learn from ahead of time. Personally, I prefer written guides, as most videos (at least the ones I've found) don't make it as clear what's going on or why. Just Google "FFXIV" followed by the name of the dungeon you want to run, and you'll find several guides, ConsoleGamesWiki, GamerEscape, EorzeaReborn, and ffxivinfo, amongst others. (EorzeaReborn has some particularly good detailed guides for quite a few of the dungeons, and ffxivinfo.com, though they tend not to have as much description, has maps with a lot of their guides, which can be particularly helpful for tanks who are expected to be able to lead the way. But some sites are better for some dungeons than others, so I just take a quick look at several of the guides Google suggests, and then read through the most detailed of them.)

Thanks for the advice!
Alot of people tell me that i'm not tanking when i should, how exactly can i tank? (I will ask alot of questions, i'm keen on this game)

Don't feel bad about asking for help! That's why this section is here! :D

Tanking is a very challenging role (but also very rewarding as well), but the basics of the role is that your task is to keep the enemy's attention only focused on you and not the rest of the party - specifically, as a tank you are set up to be able to withstand a lot more damage than the weakly-attired healers and spellcasters, and the melee hitters who are often like 'paper tigers' who will fall pretty quickly unless the enemy's attention is focused away from them. Which is where the tank comes in.

As a GLA (and their PLD Job upgrade) your main tools for keeping the enemy's attention on you ('hate', 'agro', 'enmity' or 'threat') are your sword and shield, and your natively acquired abilities Shield Lob, Flash and Provoke. How you use these abilities in combination with ensuring your weapon, shield and armour are up to date make all the difference between tanking efficiently and failing. So, for a start, lets look at these three basic abilities.

Shield Lob is a long range attack that generates a fair amount of initial hate - so it's main purpose is to 'pull' the enemy towards you. It has a high TP cost though, so it's utterly wasted being spammed repeatedly, so don't use it as a regular attack unless an enemy moves out of your range.

Flash is arguably your main 'hate generation' ability - use this in combination with your weapon skill combo (more on that below). One thing to remember is it is classed as a spell, so it costs MP - if you're spamming this a lot you'll soon run out of it, in which case, use the Fast Blade-Riot Blade weapon skill combo to restore MP (this combo is not really useful for generating hate however).

Provoke is basically your 'get-out-of-jail-free card'. It's really useful in an emergency when you lose hate to another party member and need to get the enemy focused back on you FAST - how it works is it takes the highest hate value in the party, matches your own hate with that, and then gives you one extra point. Thus you need to follow this up with Flash or Rage of Halone to keep the enemy on you. Because of this, it is utterly useless for getting hate in the first place - especially if the enemy is already focused on you. Not that that's out of the way, next is strategy.

The basic strategy for tanking as a GLA/PLD is firstly, to use Shield Lob on the enemy you want to target first, then, when the enemy (or, more likely, enemies) run up to you, immediately use Flash. This is a spell that generates a lot of hate in the enemy and thus keeps them focused on you (it also Blinds the enemy, but that's secondary to the hate generation). Then let rip on the enemy with the weaponskill combination Fast Blade-Savage Blade-Rage of Halone, cutting in Flash three, maybe four times, just to keep the hate high.

If you have multiple enemies which are not put to sleep by your party members, once you feel confident you can definitely switch targets to them quickly to keep their hate on you as well, as stragglers will often break away if your attention is turned and start munching on your WHM as soon as they start healing you. Then rinse and repeat with the next target until all the enemies are dead.

It does seem a lot to remember, and perhaps bewildering, but learning is easier with experience, and you will soon get the hang of it. :)

Thank you so much! This is extremely helpful for me!
I used to just focus on one target with the combo and flash the mob, that's all i did plus i'd never position myself properly especially with bosses!
This is so helpful thank you so much! Now i can enjoy the game without getting hate (actual hate) from other players XD
I used to never understood that hate is actually a status in the game or even agg. XD

Welcome back, not on your server but welcome back to the community :)

I think if you utilize these forums (and Party Finder) you will definitely get all the help you need.

Just one thing, have patience :)

-Tari

I'm in a free company with awesome nice people :D
Noob question: Ever since i started to play as a tank properly, during when i'm in a dungeon i randomly hear a "Shing!" noise, like a sword noise or something multiple times, then when we complete the dungeon i get a notification saying 1 commendation (Something like that) with the people in the party and i just picked any.
Not sure what it is or whats it for. :s

Edit: Plus i keep hearing people leveling up to more than 50, but for some reason my exp remain 0 (o.o)

That 'shing' sound is probably the sound that happens when a piece of equipment fully spiritbonds - once this happens that piece of equipment can be converted into materia by using the the relevant command (found under Actions and Traits).

As for Commendations, this is a system where players can reward a member of their party who they felt worked well or was just a nice person - only those who are not on your Friend List can be given a Commendation though. There are Achievements you can unlock by getting lots of Commendations so it's worth it (especially as the higher ones give nice rewards, like the gilded magitek armour and parade chocobo).

Tank is probably not the best archetype class to play if you're not confident with game mechanics.

You can either learn by watching videos, but if you're afraid of spoilers that's not an option.
Or you can just grow a thick skin and dive in head first ignoring what reaction you may get from your party.


What I've chosen to do is to play Healer along side my tank, so I usually play my Healer first time around to get the mechanics down and go in as tank after.


Tbh, the combat mechanics in dungeons are so cliche not exclusive to FF14.. Just about all MMO dungeon crawling share similar mechanics, so once you get the basics down it should come pretty natural for you. It's just getting over that initial hump..

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Originally Posted by NekoEric

Edit: Plus i keep hearing people leveling up to more than 50, but for some reason my exp remain 0 (o.o)

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You can't level past 50 until Heavensward. Your exp will remain 0 until then. Nobody can or has leveled past 50.