From everything I've read, it would seem that people who play on both ps4/ps3 and PC will need to buy the expansion twice to access the content on both systems. I can't seem to find any posts by a Dev anywhere on the matter. Let's completely disregard the fact that this is a horrible, moneygrubbing idea that seriously puts me off purchasing even a single copy of the expansion, even though I know I'll probably give into buying two.
How in the world is this going to work? I can kinda of understand restricted areas, you'll get auto teleported to a nonexpansion area if you login to a system where you only have the base FF14 and not the expansion. But there will be expansion specific items. Will these items stop functioning if you only have the base FF14? If that's the case, someone who has the expansion on one system and doesn't on the other would have to create completely separate gear sets for each system.
Overall, this is a horrible idea and the expansion should be account bound, similar to collector's edition and preorder bonuses, not system bound. If there are any posts confirming or denying whether or not multiple platform users will have to buy multiple expansion copies, please link me to them.
Heavensward Not a System Time Buy? How?
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03-17-2015, 11:55 AMBonahHeavensward Not a System-wide Buy? How?
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03-17-2015, 11:57 AMKaitlen
They've already stated that item data* will be provided to non-expac owners and if you logout in an expac area and try to login on a non-licensed device (platform, PS4/PC/PS3/Mac), you won't be able to login to that area you logged off in (can't login/get login error).
*Item Data being gear, job appearances, consumables, etc.
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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...96#post2843796 -
03-17-2015, 12:01 PMBonahCould you please link me to the info, I can only seem to find info about it from third party gaming news websites. And what will happen with the expansion items if I log into a nonlicensed device, will they completely stop working?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaitlen
I suppose I should have expected this much from SE after they set the price for a PSP game that's almost a decade old to $59.99...
Thanks for the link, still confused as to whether or not the items will continue to function on non-licensed platforms. I guess now this is just a thread about how making multi-platform users buy the same game/expansion over and over is pretty lame, not that anyone cares. -
03-17-2015, 12:08 PMKaitlenI'm looking for some of the posts made; but I know that they said somewhere that item data would be provided to non-expansion owners since people with the new jobs will be playing in original areas too. "expansion items stop working" -- I really think this is more focused on the accessible areas, I don't think the items will just stop working. Just like you can sell new items from the expansion on the market board and a non-expansion player can buy and use them.Quote:
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I updated the my first post above with the comment about the login/logout point between a expansion licensed device and a non-licensed one. -
03-17-2015, 12:15 PMmonochromicorn
If you buy that new dB game for Xbox 1, does that mean you should automatically be able to play it on every platform it becomes available? It's the same concept, and no, you shouldnt.
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03-17-2015, 12:21 PMBonahEnglish please? That made zero sense. Whatever this "lyrics game" is, it's probably not a cross-platform mmo.Quote:
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Either way I'm going to end up buying it for both ps4 and pc, as I prefer one over the other depending on what I'm doing in game. -
03-17-2015, 12:24 PMKaitlen
I'm still looking the relevant information; but I'm sure that 'items' will continue to work since it will be shared for all players to see the actions/effects.
The key points:
- Need only one copy of collectors version for bonus items (items tied to service account, not platform) [Source]
- Need one copy per platform, regardless either collectors or normal.
- Example: I buy one copy of collector's edition for PC, I get bonus items. I buy regular expansion for PS4, I can still use bonus items on PS4 that I got from PC collector's edition. (or vice versa)
- You cannot access new areas on a platform you've not bought the expansion for.
There is a post floating around here somewhere about the shared item data that *all* players will get regardless if they own the expansion or not. Search here is terrible... -
03-17-2015, 12:29 PMBonah
Thanks for the information, and yeah google returns close to zero results from the official ff14 forums as well, I literally typed in the exact title of that thread with the dev post and got nothing.
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03-17-2015, 01:12 PMmonochromicornNot even sure how lyrics got in there, correcting Post now. Still, everything in it is english, so maybe you should learn a few words yourself. And it really doesn't matter whether it's an MMO or not, business is business, the fact that there are, and have been, games on separate platforms, you have always had to buy them separately, why should this be any different?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonah
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03-17-2015, 01:39 PMBonahApple car dog tree fish ball. Everything there was English, yet it made about as much sense as your first post, so don't be snide because you can't create a comprehensible sentence. And yes, it does matter whether or not this is an MMO. A pretty big chunk of all of the PSN games are cross platform (I buy on one platform, I get on the rest). Obviously this isn't customary with all normal games, but this is not just an MMO, but an MMO expansion. It's not a game, it's more or less DLC.Quote:
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With your methodology, I should have to pay a separate subscription cost for every system I use. -
03-17-2015, 10:51 PMBreathlessTao
...I'm still surprised to see threads made about this issue. ARR has been the same since launch and they had said it beforehand.
The service account is universal, it stores your game data regardless of the platform you play on. The collector's edition and preorder bonuses are account-based, so you only add them once and they'll be available for all your characters.
If you want to play on different platforms though, you have to buy the game on all your platforms - cross-platform playing is one thing; cross purchase is another. If you purchase a game for the PC, do you ever get an X1/PS4 version chucked at you for free? (This is what monochromicorn was saying, I believe.) You don't, because the software itself is different, made for different systems, and that has to be paid. Also, with the online accounts (Microsoft's and Sony's as well), you need to register your game to those accounts as well, it can't happen just via some gamesaves in the cloud. Also, it's just my guess, but I have a feeling we'll see a separate .exe file for the expansion (much like Sims have been doing it), so even in that sense it'll end up being separate.
Yes, it sucks having to pay twice or even more, but that's how it is as of now and it's nothing new.
(Also not sure why something like this is posted in the Website Feedback & Suggestions section which is meant for discussions about how the forum itself works and such, but then again... quite a lot that don't fit in here.) -
03-19-2015, 11:14 AMDaleaudeOrnitier
I don't see why its so inconceivable that you could just buy Heavensward once. In FFXI, I could buy Aht Urghan for 360 and play Aht Urghan content on PS2 and PC as long as I had the data installed. I understand that based on what they're saying, you may have to buy it a few times, but before you cite any other game for cross-play-purchase, how about Square's only other MMO??
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03-19-2015, 06:04 PMExiledOneThis is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonah
Optional items purchased at the Mog Station are only purchased once for all devices and not "per device"
You'd think that the expansion would work the same way.