I can live with no personal spaces (Houses),
I can live with no mail (Barely...),
I COULD live with the job system again after XI...
I COULDN'T live with having to go back to town just to switch from Archer to Pugilist!
Has ANYONE got any info on this? got a feeling I just missed out a Lodestone post or 2, my Anima sucks as it is and I don't fancy having to call a chocobo (assuming we'll be able to call them...) just to go get a change of job...
Hopefully it'll just be a Menu option but I doubt I'll get that lucky...
Thanks in advance, to anyone posting useful information anyway...
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08-30-2011, 12:40 AMSirThesdJob System
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08-30-2011, 12:50 AMZanfire
Honestly i wish they would have had just a menu right from the start instead of making the weapon the way we change, that way it would be easy to let people use multiple weapons and not worry about it if they did change the classes around or add the job system.
Im gonna go ahead and assume its either 1) a menu thing, you choose when you equip 2) weapons will be specific to jobs or 3) if you equip a say "PLD" skill it will make you PLD and lock out w/e stuff you cant use. -
08-30-2011, 02:44 AMDelmontyb
Really not any info that we can go off of yet... We will just have to wait until after 1.19 releases.
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09-01-2011, 03:30 AMSirThesdI'm liking the sound of No.3 if im honestQuote:
Originally Posted by Zanfire
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09-01-2011, 04:42 AMNoctisUmbra
I don't even...
where did you get any idea that the coming job system in any way even suggested having to use a city hub to change classes? -
09-01-2011, 05:17 AMCairdeas
From what I understand.
You change your Class using weapons like Normal, If you have a job unlocked for that class you select it as active in your Skills Menu. -
09-01-2011, 05:33 AMOnidemonYou won't need to go anywhere to change jobs. As of now it is 1 class = 1 job. Changing classes only requires changing weapons and jobs will not be like jobs in FFXI but more like talent trees from WOW(no u wont assign points) as it will give your class a specialty. Glad will have a paladin job which will grant you additional abilities, traits and the ability to equip paladin gear all to enhance the tanking skills of your Gladiator. You unlock it after doing a quest and i guess it will stick to your class whenever you are on that class.Quote:
Originally Posted by SirThesd
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09-01-2011, 05:42 AMZanfire
^ the thing is, that will change and they already said it will happen (they mentioned the THM + CON = RDM example) so what they do here will determine how that works too. Im pretty sure they wont suddenly re-adjust the whole system when those come into play.
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09-01-2011, 09:10 AMEstellios
It could be as simple as "if you are on a class that unlocks this job you can change to it"
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09-03-2011, 09:13 PMSirThesdyou dont read the producer letters then? and i'm going on the basis of XI (since this is starting to feel like an upgraded XI)Quote:
Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra
For the record the current class change is called the "Armory system" to the best of my knowledge... or it was in the beta anyway... -
09-03-2011, 09:19 PMChoyi
I find it more likely its something you can switch into via the abilities and traits menu as mentioned in a previous post.
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09-03-2011, 10:52 PMFelisOnly if you have no Pugilist weapon in your inventoryQuote:
Originally Posted by SirThesd
The change from Archer to Pugilist is still the armory system.
I think to de/activate the job on a class is a menu thing and not a location thing -
09-03-2011, 11:09 PMcaptainpicard
Rest assured, whatever it is, it will be convoluted and not intuitive.
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09-04-2011, 12:09 AMNoctisUmbraActually I read them all quite carefully. I could ask you the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by SirThesd
FFXIV is, with these latest changes, taking quite a lot of inspiration from XI - however it is most clearly not going in the same direction or becoming an upgraded XI. Even so, don't confuse your assumptions for facts. -
09-04-2011, 03:44 AMSirThesd
Right, doing this properly now instead of cutting corners like my last post...
Through the lack of information I've seen/stress/and people refering it to the job system rather than Armory (Stick it with confusion)Quote:
Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra
I never said it WAS going to be an upgraded XI I said it was starting to FEEL like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra
Fair enough I didn't exactly word my opening post very well, I'm not trying to go for a "Strawman" here... but did you even read the entire post? Because I asked for information, and the way your post reads it seems as though your assuming I'm demanding that I'm right, But please, Correct me if I'm wrong.
That aside, guess I'll just reword my original question since people lower down in the thread don't seem to know what it was,
Does anyone have Detailed information on the updates to the current Job system?
I'm NOT asking how the current system works, which some people seem to think...
Although I will say thank you for the refresher since you took the time. -
09-04-2011, 04:41 AMNoctisUmbraThe confusion is no doubt due to your use of the term 'Job System.'Quote:
Originally Posted by SirThesd
In FFXIV, the Armoury System is what refers to the classes we have available among other things. That system, in essence, is not changing other than some skill rearrangements and such. The classes are remaining as they are. In fact new classes, such as Musketeer and Archanist are to be implemented quite a while down the road.
The Job System is an entirely new system being added on top of the Armoury System. The details are unknown, as to how one will be able to utilize this system, but there are some known facts:
- Jobs will be separate from classes. They do no overwrite them, nor are they simply advanced forms of classes.
- Jobs will be unlocked via quests with requirements of having certain classes at certain ranks.
- Jobs will not have their own level - they will match the level of the class they stem from 9if you have a Lv. 45 GLA, upon switching to Paladin it will be a Lv. 45 Paladin.
- Once a Job is unlocked, you are not always on that job - you can chose to play as any class or any job (based on them saying classes will be better suited to solo play while jobs better for party play.)
- Initially there will be one job unlocked per class currently in game, but more will be made available in future patches.
I hope that clarifies the system and answers some of your questions. -
09-04-2011, 07:26 PMSirThesd
lets see if I've got this right...
So theres the Class, then the job to make it better at a certain thing.
The level stays the same as the Class.
You have an option to switch between the jobs as long as your the class that its branched from.
That right in a nutshell? -
09-04-2011, 07:43 PMzaviermhigo
After playing X and X-2 these past few months, I think blue mage (more xi style) and a summoner class (limited to 2-3 summons) would work wonderfully with the AP system. Just a side thought thought nothing too important obviously.
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09-04-2011, 07:47 PMSirThesdI see what your getting at with the summon thing, must admit I loved BLU on XI :P, but I doubt people are going to settle for 3 summons :/ know I couldn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by zaviermhigo
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09-05-2011, 03:01 PMEstelliosAnother detail is that Jobs will be extremely limited, but make you really good at "that certain thing". They've mentioned losing the ability to use cross-class abilities (I don't remember if it was most or all of them), but you will gain Job-exclusive actions as a tradeoff.Quote:
Originally Posted by SirThesd