Suggestion for future DX11 graphics features: Can we get Bloom & unsharp effect back?

As Yoshi stated that they are going to add more features for DX11 Version of the game.
One i mostly wish that they are going to implement back into the game was the decent bloom and unsharp effect in FFXIV.

As everything that was in the distance was slightly unsharp and the atmosphere and the characters had some kind of bloom effect.

I Also wished if they could improve the weather effects since they are very cartoonish since ARR.

Cause this:
Bloom/unsharp effect
http://final-fantasy-future.de/cms/i...8-17-10_56.jpg
http://www.finalfantasy-14.de/upload...e/Bild%207.jpg
http://eorzeareborn.com/wp-content/u.../12/Moogle.png
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...E-Sumi-Yan.png

Looks more brillant/realistic than this:
http://sfx.thelazy.net/static/media/...015_102241.png
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...n_Portrait.jpg
http://www.playmassive.de/uploads/inline/pic-16142.jpg

and making the grass less grainy like in 1.0. would be also cool ;X

I wouldn't mind the soften/blur thingy on distant objects and landmarks, but depth of field usually does more harm than good. Can be okay in cut-scenes, but it's almost always done badly and makes the game just look worse. That bloom just makes the characters shine strangely for no reason.

The bloom was terrible in 1.0. Too much exposure, and anything remotely white/yellow glowed like a halo.

As for the depth of field, ARR already has it. It's just limited to cutscenes. That and 1.0 recommended you had DoF on because it helped hide the engine's terrible LoD clipping. I wouldn't mind it if they had a little more flair to the cinematography in the expansion cutscenes, and some high contrast lighting to emphasize the normal maps, rather than the general muted lighting we get a lot of in ARR that makes things look kinda flat.
http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/g...8f6539e424.jpg

I just want motion capture back... enough of those pre-coded emotes!

I've just finished 2.4 and the only motion capture I have noticed is when Haurchefant stands up from his chair to walk around the table.... A whooping 8 seconds mo-cap in a whole patch of MSQ cutscenes.

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Originally Posted by Kaisha

As for the depth of field, ARR already has it. It's just limited to cutscenes.

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I wouldn't mind having DOF during actual gameplay, especially if we had some control over it's strength.

http://i.imgur.com/umLaF5Z.jpg

This example is edited of course (with strong DOF) but it really adds subtle atmosphere. It's one of those things i've personally wanted for some time (that and better lighting)

Here's a link for a larger image:

http://i.imgur.com/umLaF5Z.jpg

More graphic options would be really nice so we can customize it according to our hardware and likes. I support this.

DoF - sure, if we can turn it on/off

Bloom - Nah. It's good in the places where it is already (mor dhona, long-distance crystal structures), but the PS2 era made me hate bloom and i still do.


Depth of Field is one of those things that i really don't mind not having in videogames. Maybe it's just because my vision sucks in real life, but I really do enjoy being able to see things far away, and I hate when they overdo the effect and everything is just blurry and ugly.

Only if it's an optional setting for those who want it, I despise both effects.

Bloom back in 1.0 was a bane of White Mage's existence :x and as a WHM I can say I did not care for it lol

http://i.imgur.com/xonnJvL.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qki8xEc.jpg

http://download.gamespotcdn.net/d4/u...olykitty_2.jpg


I don't mind if they bring it back as a option you can turn on/off, but yeah I dont want ^ this back lol it washes out your character and removes any detail on your white gear.

DEFINITELY YES, PLEASE.

I don't think either of those would hurt anyone if they were added as optional effects to be enabled or disabled. Surely SE could tweak their strength, or even give us options to pick from (light-normal-strong, or some such). Any sort of additional customisation is great, imo, and frankly - getting into ARR the first few times, I was very much taken aback by the raw/stark/burnt-out graphics in general. At least, that's how it felt to me after 1.x... sometimes I still find it very weird, tbh.

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Originally Posted by Vurtney

I wouldn't mind having DOF during actual gameplay, especially if we had some control over it's strength.

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I wouldn't mind it in some form of a photo mode for screenshot capturing (along with camera roll, tilt, etc, to get my character away from dead center of the screen), but otherwise you're just making your character out to be very nearsighted and blurring out landmark details the devs actually bothered to get to look decent in ARR.

Most of the maps are not particularly large enough where the DoF on fulltime would even have much of an aesthetic value either.

If we're discussing wanting actual eye-candy, per-object motion blur would be pretty dope, especially for MNKs.

For PC users we can use Sweetfx to realy help the game look better.

It has lots of bloom options and so much more. I don't remember messing with any DoF stuff though..

On a personal note, all the footage they have been showing is SO GRAY it is driving me nuts. It is like they have this amazing coloring and then throw a gray haze over the top.


no sweetfx
http://i.imgur.com/HJKqP7w.jpg

with sweetfx
http://i.imgur.com/Rm0D6Gd.jpg

no sweetfx

http://i.imgur.com/fOJMAsE.jpg

with sweetfx

http://i.imgur.com/Ct7SUFm.jpg

This video can help you get started and also goes into showing that a rep has already said it is just fine to use if you are worried about that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPB9SU9-eok

If you have time I think it is worth wile to go in and change things to your own liking. There are SO many options to play with. Just remember you have to close and re-open the game to see changes you make.

This site can also help you come up with settings you may like.

http://sfx.thelazy.net/games/game/31/


Edit: The reason I am putting this here is it is a nice idea to have the option added into the game itself but it may never happen. With this at least you have some kind of control.

You're just making the colours look extra saturated.

As for the trailers, it's likely due to the codec they encoded the video with. A lot of the whites/blacks were getting crushed even in the recently released zone tour video, probably limited RGB as well which brings all the deep blacks up to a dark grey instead, assuming their wasn't an issue in maintaining the gamma level.

Yea, I'd LOVE these options (as optional). Under certain weather conditions, certain locations look MUCH MORE 'realistic'. (I use that term lightly).

Go to Little Ala Mhigo at around 10am, under sunshine (or Heatwave). Start to walk out of the Sactuary and notice how great the sunshine and environment looks. Same with most places early morning in sunshine really. I'll post pictures soonish.

6PM ingame as I post that lol. Will be a few before I make comparison pics lol

PS3 limitations. Please look forward to it.

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Originally Posted by Vurtney

http://i.imgur.com/umLaF5Z.jpg

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You traced a zdepth map by hand? That depth map, that.. that seems like is a lot of work done to be done by hand, as in photoshop lasso tool hand??

Thank you for your time and effort.


I would hope to see Bloom and DoF in DX11. In Total War have the option to use older DX if your graphics card isn't up to par, DoF and shaders are the most significant improves with when using new dirctx

I'm looking forward to improved reflections as they teased a few months ago, the image based lighting at the moment is pretty sub par, i've tried toggling hdr on and off in different armorr, its nothing as good as it was in 1.0

edit: after spending some time looking at old 1.0 screenshots I've become very sad ._.

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Originally Posted by Issachar

PS3 limitations. Please look forward to it.

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Heavensward is the last expansion the ps3 is getting support for, though, isn't it?

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Originally Posted by Vurtney

I wouldn't mind having DOF during actual gameplay, especially if we had some control over it's strength.

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No, god no. The game never understands what I'm trying to look at, and so the DoF just makes things much, much worse. It's just like when I went to watch Avatar in 3D; they used DoF and it absolutely ruined it for me. In a standard 2D feature, DoF is fine, but with 3D (and thus video games), I want to be able to choose what I'm focusing on.

Those pictures are great, and I love how they look... but that's because they're stills and not moving images.

Until a game can detect where my eyes are looking and focus where I want it to, I say an absolute no to DoF.

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Originally Posted by Issachar

PS3 limitations. Please look forward to it.

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Not sure what PS3 has to do with individual graphics option on a PC.

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Originally Posted by Zelas

Heavensward is the last expansion the ps3 is getting support for, though, isn't it?

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Also not sure where you got that from. They only said that Heavensward was still fully designed with PS3 support in mind. (I wouldn't mind if it was though, when PS3 is getting to be the excuse for features not being implemented time and time again - it is restricting development.)

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Originally Posted by Zelas

Heavensward is the last expansion the ps3 is getting support for, though, isn't it?

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I hope so but doubt it since XI can still be played on ps2. Course I most likely misread the ps2 bit but meh

Just curious on this, will dx11 be included in this client or would it be a different client all together?

Hoping they bring a 64bit client out. And better crossfire support.

really hoping 3.0 brings these features

Supposedly the 64-bit client is going to be out soon, as well as the DX11 one. I hope they're one in the same. Seriously, who still uses 32-bit windows?

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Originally Posted by Xenosan

You traced a zdepth map by hand? That depth map, that.. that seems like is a lot of work done to be done by hand, as in photoshop lasso tool hand??

Thank you for your time and effort.

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The image was done by someone else, no credit for me. Just using it as an example. For HDR you can use the poor mans solution with Sweetfx. I'm only using it for colour correction.

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Originally Posted by TheRogueX

No, god no. The game never understands what I'm trying to look at, and so the DoF just makes things much, much worse. It's just like when I went to watch Avatar in 3D; they used DoF and it absolutely ruined it for me. In a standard 2D feature, DoF is fine, but with 3D (and thus video games), I want to be able to choose what I'm focusing on.

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You can't say no to options, because that's what these graphical features are: optional.

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Originally Posted by Bracken

Just curious on this, will dx11 be included in this client or would it be a different client all together?

Hoping they bring a 64bit client out. And better crossfire support.

really hoping 3.0 brings these features

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Supposedly the new client is bundled with the expansion which means we have two options for a download/install depending which you buy. I have 2 GTX 680 so i'm with you there. The SLI/Crossfire just doesn't work optimally.

3D Stereovision please.

I did not see any mention of a 64bit client did they actualy say something like that? I only know about the DX11 support and the EU datacenter which are coming along with Heavensward (if we are lucky and no further delays).

Ohhh I support this, OP!

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Originally Posted by Riardon

I did not see any mention of a 64bit client did they actualy say something like that? I only know about the DX11 support and the EU datacenter which are coming along with Heavensward (if we are lucky and no further delays).

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Source:

PS4 Media Tour - Interview with Naoki Yoshida / Gamer Escape Feb 12, 2014

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Originally Posted by TheRogueX

Source:

PS4 Media Tour - Interview with Naoki Yoshida / Gamer Escape Feb 12, 2014

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Oh ty thanks. The interview is a year old and no further info upon DX11 and 64bit client. I really hope they will say something soon. Only 3 months left.