BLM Clip Casting and Slide Casting

I've heard this term thrown around quite a few times by other BLMs, How exactly do I SC or CC? Tips would be greatly appreciated.

It depends on your general latency. For the most part at the tail end of a spell cast, along with you having already queue'd in the next cast, you can scoot an inch or two and have neither cast interrupted.

It's based on lag. If you have a higher latency, the window that you can begin to move and not cancel the cast is larger, and vice versa.

So just do some tests on a target dummy and try moving right at the very end of a spell cast but before it finishes. If it says interrupted, you moved too early.

Moving during the last quarter of your spell cast. Around 0.200 works for me.

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Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline

Moving during the last quarter of your spell cast. Around 0.200 works for me.

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I do it at around 0.500. It's all based on latency.

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Originally Posted by OneWingedSora

I do it at around 0.500. It's all based on latency.

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.500?! That would be awesome! Err, is that a good thing or a bad thing lol Sometimes, coil servers tell me that skating on .200 isn't sufficient, so sometimes I just take the hit lol

Properly skating is prob one of the most useful "skills" in the BLM arsenal. In movement heavy fights (such as Titan EX), it separates the men from the boys. Learn your exact percentage of cast when you're able to do it and even practice it in fights when it's not needed - just so you can get a perfect feel for it. Your deeps numbers will thank you for it.

I live an hour from servers. Something, I get a clear no latency and my spell cancel when I start moving at 0.1500 second. I cry. A lot.

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Originally Posted by Aikaal

I cry. A lot.

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You would cry a lot more if you had the kinda lag us EU players have xD

It's not as bad as it was, back in 2.0, I had to move to dodge before seeing plumes in titan hm, else it was already too late! :D

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Originally Posted by Aikaal

I live an hour from servers. Something, I get a clear no latency and my spell cancel when I start moving at 0.1500 second. I cry. A lot.

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Yeah I can walk up to the servers...and my latency all depends on L3 routes. Sometimes they are benevolent, sometimes they reroute SE traffic to shit tier.

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Originally Posted by Aikaal

I live an hour from servers. Something, I get a clear no latency and my spell cancel when I start moving at 0.1500 second. I cry. A lot.

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thats a good thing though, right? Means you can escape an AoE at the edge of its casting and get away with it.

I figured this out naturally while playing, i didn't know there was a name for it. In some fights i feel like id be rightfully screwed without the leniency.

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

You would cry a lot more if you had the kinda lag us EU players have xD

It's not as bad as it was, back in 2.0, I had to move to dodge before seeing plumes in titan hm, else it was already too late! :D

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What lag? Where in the EU is more important than simply a generic "EU players have bad lag". Because I don't, at least not often. I have a 90ms ping most of the time (UK based player) which is not enough to feel any kind of latency problems. If I'm hit during Titan, it's because I moved too late.

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Originally Posted by Themis

What lag? Where in the EU is more important than simply a generic "EU players have bad lag". Because I don't, at least not often. I have a 90ms ping most of the time (UK based player) which is not enough to feel any kind of latency problems. If I'm hit during Titan, it's because I moved too late.

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If you read my post you'll see that the Titan comment was for 2.0 and if you played it then, you should have seen the lag/delay as it was programed in sever side I believe, SE since greatly lowered this, but before when added to the normal eu lag, made it pretty difficult, without know exactly when things would happen.

The whole thread us based on lag (cast-clipping) and I notice a lot of lag as a blm.

Trying to dodge in a different direction to another player can be a pain too (think chains in T6), as on both players screens it looks like the other person if following you, due to this lag/delay.

Many EU players have cleared T13 (including myself) despite this, so it's obviously not a big problem for most, but it is very noticable and pretty annoying on times.

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Originally Posted by Themis

What lag? Where in the EU is more important than simply a generic "EU players have bad lag". Because I don't, at least not often. I have a 90ms ping most of the time (UK based player) which is not enough to feel any kind of latency problems. If I'm hit during Titan, it's because I moved too late.

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Glorious nordic Internet, reporting in. I've had no problems dodging Titan or anything else even before Squenix increased the position polling rate.

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

If you read my post you'll see that the Titan comment was for 2.0 and if you played it then, you should have seen the lag/delay as it was programed in sever side I believe, SE since greatly lowered this, but before when added to the normal eu lag, made it pretty difficult, without know exactly when things would happen.

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Funny how I never bothered to learn Titan skill rotations and I cleared it before the update. I still don't know it.

On topic, though. I've noticed that there can be a huge variation when you can clip the cast. For me it can vary betwixt 0.1 to 0.5 seconds during one fight, and I don't notice any increase of latency or difficulty of dodging mechanics at the same time.

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Originally Posted by Waliel

Glorious nordic Internet, reporting in. I've had no problems dodging Titan or anything else even before Squenix increased the position polling rate.

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Same here, but after patch uh 2.35 I think game got unplayable without wtfast for me.

I get to slide cast with like 0.300-0.200 now though just to be on topic.

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Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline

.500?! That would be awesome! Err, is that a good thing or a bad thing lol Sometimes, coil servers tell me that skating on .200 isn't sufficient, so sometimes I just take the hit lol

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Mine is around 0.400 and with a latency (from CONSTANT ping test to SE servers) around 38-50ms.
Slide casting is probably THE SKILL you have to master completely to be a good mage - proper rotations aside. It's what enables me to do skyrocket up to almost 500 on T11 on good procs. ;_;

How can u slide at 0.400 with 38-50ms ping? My ping is usually 80-100ms but i should slide at 0.300, 0.400 will cancel the cast D:
Edit : we're talking about F1 and B1, not longer cast one

Down in Australia, 288ms. Consider yourselves lucky as heck.

Speaking of Cast Clipping, I really hate that AoE's queue damage before the animation activates. It's exceedingly deceptive. Might have taken a lazer in T11 to the face today because I was out of the animation but not the AoE indicator (or so the server says).