Is there even a PVP queue ?????

there been 0 pvp pops in weeks whats going on seriously:(

On Lich, pvp queue is always 30min+, this week i succeded in joining frontline twice a day (i only play the evening 7h pm GMT+1). The week-end, i can wait like more than an hour for nothing...
PvP isn't much played on FF14 :(

Unfortunately, with the way that the PvP FL queue works, sometimes all you are waiting on is one GC's ranks to fill up before a match can even start.

PVP is dead and will remain dead as long as the GC restriction remains in place.

Now lets all wait for somebody to come in here and tell me how the lore prevents it's removal, as if SE doesn't make the lore and can't do whatever they want.

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Originally Posted by Akuryu

PVP is dead and will remain dead as long as the GC restriction remains in place.

Now lets all wait for somebody to come in here and tell me how the lore prevents it's removal, as if SE doesn't make the lore and can't do whatever they want.

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Haha yeah or how they like the GC restriction because they happen to be in the dominant one for their data center and have a much better chance of winning. As if the rest of us have all this control over the dedication and skill level of our data server's playerbase aligned to our own GC. Sure we can queue with a premade but it's not always feasible to find 7 others who want to wait for no telling how long to try and get a match, and if we wait for 45 min to an hour only to get an alliance that's really weak, what kind of experience is that? It's why I play Frontlines so much less now because I'm not going to spend all this time sitting and waiting in queue for matches where the deck is stacked against me from the start. I need like 18 first place wins to get my ADS mount and that's probably going to be 6 months from now that I get it at this rate and hell yes I'm angry about it.

We just got some Storm members their ADS mounts in the last week or so. (20 wins in one day, got 3 people their mounts) I get that it can be frustrating though... my last win for ADS (I had 194 when it came out) took about two days, lol. All you can do is keep playing and solo queuing. :( Somehow that last win is always the WORST one.

So far today, people are getting pops every 20 mins or so here on Leviathan, so just try solo queuing for both Secure/Slaughter and the wins should come eventually.

I went through the same thing on my way to getting my Warhorse, and it felt like FOREVER getting from 95 to 100... so much longer than getting even the 15 wins before it... and then I was able to enjoy the game more based on how my party was doing vs. if there were problems in the alliance.

While I'm not changing GC's and forfeiting all the PVP rank-based rewards, I do want to experience being in the different Grand Companies for a variety of reasons, so I have a character on Leviathan in Maelstrom I'm developing. Once I get that to 50 I'm sure I'll be PVP'ing some with him so I'll most likely find myself in your party or alliance at some time or other, albeit under a different name.

We can try to get you in the PvP LS if you'd like. We're always a bit full though even after I remove members to make room. ;( Hopefully it's sooner rather than later!

Get rid of Grand Company involvement. It's completely asinine and hurts the system on such a grand scale. Also the 3 team BGs are cancer. I've no idea how the developers don't see this. If you think PvPers are sitting behind their computer screens battling in Frontlines and soaking in the lore of their grand company, you're delusional.

SE should do some events around PvP so that more players join it.
I'm so bored of waiting for hours. I don't anna pay for "this".

ever since gs was added noone pvps :( had 8 games last week with stupid ques could do 40+ easily before gs

I aggree with Babette we pay for it !!!!

Its bad and not fair that other Worlds can play Frontline every 20 Minutes and we on Lich wait for 40-300 Minutes o.O
There are enough Worlds to make it Possible that they find a Way that every World wait 15 Minutes for a Match.

Players want to play but the most are so angry that the People PVP dislike and thats not correct :[
And I dont understand that Full Partys dont Pop and when you stay in Queue alonet pops ???
Where is the Sense -_-

I'm glad I managed to get my ADS mount before Gold Saucer came out, now taking a bit of a break from PvP. Adders on Chaos Data Center are just... bad. >.>

Haha, see, 1s otf all worlds has 120 matches... 1st player on Lich has played 34 matches, which is 4 times less on a week. He is not even in top 100 of all worlds.
Gold Saucer should be locked the day, and opened only on a short period, chocobo races must not be the new "dungeon" to farm.
Plus, if SE adds new special cards that can be otained only from PvP, maybe we would see more players in ! Just to say, if they really wanted to do something, they could...

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I'm glad I managed to get my ADS mount before Gold Saucer came out, now taking a bit of a break from PvP. Adders on Chaos Data Center are just... bad. >.>

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OMG that goes to show how unfair this system is. Those of us who try really damn hard but get allied with a lot of weaker players can just lose over and over and over, and people in the other GC's get their mounts that much faster and we get them that much slower. And sad thing is, someone in the dominant GC on a datacenter who doesn't even play well will get carried to more wins than those who put everything they have into it will get because of being held back by the people they have to queue up with.

I've thought this week about swapping to get enough wins for my ADS mount and swapping back, but that would mean being unable to access my PVP rank related rewards earned up to now and on principle alone that makes me sick. it's going to affect my PVP and PVE loadouts as well, not just glamour we're talking about.

I'm listing this because I want SE to see a direct example of how this affects a player who has worked very hard to get where they are in PVP. And then apply this concept to anything else in end game, where changing who you can run instances with means a reversal of progression. (New static? Sorry can't equip the Dreadwyrm gear you earned with your old one for a few hundred more matches. Lore!)

Currently equipped PVE-viable gear I would not be able to use if I change GC and PVP rank is reset:
- Birdliege bow (i110 Crit/Det bow)
- Werewolf ring of Aiming (i110)
- Wolfliege Staff (i110 BLM staff)
- Hellwolf Ring of Fending (i100 Vit/Crit/Det)
- Batliege Soto (i110 Crit/Det weapon)
- 3 Pieces Batliege i110 Ninja armor (chest/arms/shoes)
- Elkliege gloves (i110 SCH Crit/Det)
- Elklord Grimoire (i110 SCH Crit/Det)
- Elkliege Belt (i110 SMN)
- Snakeliege Spear (i110 DRG Crit/SS)
- 4 Pieces left side DRG armor

Glamour that would be lost if I change GC and PVP rank is reset:
- Birdsong Coat
- Birdsong Gloves
- Elkhorn Hat
- Ninja hat matching Batliege armor above
- Scholar boots
* and yes I know this isn't all bis but that's beside the point, we have multiple types of gear for a reason and some of this has better secondary stats than some of my i120 gear. If I had worked on relic upgrade instead of PVP that wouldn't get taken away to regrind it if I wanted to run instances with a different set of people.

Maybe there's more but the exercise of figuring out that I wouldn't be able to use all these if I want to swap to the GC that wins makes me really mad. On top of the disappointment from not being able to enjoy this part of the game anymore. I did a Secure run in between typing this and just like the several before it, half the Twin Adders party was on point, and half roamed around aimlessly treating Secure mode like their own personal Slaughter match as usual and they were not where they were supposed to be for the main objectives just like always and we got 2nd place again. Screw second place, and screw the fact I have over 600 games and climbing and no ADS mount while my win rate gets worse and worse because of the GC alignment. The way i feel about all this, if expressed using the language that's going through my head, would almost certainly get me banned from the forums.

Slaughter mode killed PvP in general. lots of people don't do PvP anymore.

Aether queues are good tonight for immortal flames. 72 man slaughter queue popping every 5-10 minutes.

Primal queues were STRANGE earlier today. 72 pops one after another in an 8 man premade.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

Slaughter mode killed PvP in general. lots of people don't do PvP anymore.

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Some of us who backed off are still waiting, futility from the looks of GC restrictions remaining, that things will change. However I have no faith anymore that they will. It doesn't seem like they're really listening or taking our feed back seriously for any PvP mode.

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Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto

Aether queues are good tonight for immortal flames. 72 man slaughter queue popping every 5-10 minutes.

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It was an odd night tonight for sure. I haven't gotten large number of ques like that since slaughter first came out. Most matches I play these days are limited to 24 man secure/slaughter if I hit the roulette, partially because not enough people are queing for bigger matches. Sometimes I can catch a 72 man but thats very rarely, and I haven't played a 72 man Secure EVEN ONE TIME since slaughter came out :/

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Originally Posted by Akuryu

PVP is dead and will remain dead as long as the GC restriction remains in place.

Now lets all wait for somebody to come in here and tell me how the lore prevents it's removal, as if SE doesn't make the lore and can't do whatever they want.

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Forever this.
Gameplay > Lore.

Why this was even implemented in the first place is beyond me, right from the get go we all knew the GC resitrictions would be nothing but hassle, long que times and unable to que with friends if they are in a different GC. SE dropped the ball on this one.

Queues are bad today because its weekly reset day; a trend that I've noticed. :(

Yeah Tuesdays must be slow due to towers and coil freeing up. Yesterday was awesome though, I think I saw you in 2 games!

In a full premade and we had two back to back 8 second queues.

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Originally Posted by zeopower6

In a full premade and we had two back to back 8 second queues.

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I figured Storm had a PM last night...

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Originally Posted by Blubbers

Yeah Tuesdays must be slow due to towers and coil freeing up. Yesterday was awesome though, I think I saw you in 2 games!

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Yeah you probably did lol.

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Originally Posted by Red_Wolf

I figured Storm had a PM last night...

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Well, we do run every day, lol. Also I miss you and Bastielle dearly. :(

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Originally Posted by zeopower6

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I'm around... :cool:

Not in the way I'd like though. ;)