Out of curiosity, I asked a PF person, who was selling Primals and Coils, how much his T9 was going for. Not just him, but many have said 8million. I felt 8mil was too pricey.
Shortly after, a Gil seller sent a tell saying to get 10 mil for about $35. That $35 is two monthly subs lol...
But for real, $30-ish dollars for one win? What about Final Coil? I've grown to accept that I am never getting the T9 win (tried a lot, only seeing Golems twice).
3.0 coming soon. Hopefully Coil completion isn't needed to access that content since I have everything else done.
Jeez... $30 for T9 carry?
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02-22-2015, 11:14 AMJim_BerryJeez... $30 for T9 carry?
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02-22-2015, 11:17 AMGarlyle
I believe they already confirmed Coil completion won't be needed to enter Alexander.
Also you do need to find different people for Turn 9 if you've only seen Golems twice. Like, really. -
02-22-2015, 11:20 AMLunaHoshinoSeconding this. I've had DF groups get further than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garlyle
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02-22-2015, 11:30 AMJim_Berry
lol... Most of my peeps are offline or crafting when I get home from work. I actually got my Golem sighting via DF. In all fairness, most of my wins were from DF when available (won T5 when Darklight and Relic +1 shown your dedication to gear up).
In any case, I no longer waste my whole off day or night hours attempting T9. I try once or twice a day now, and spend the rest of my time helping others.
Want to know what's sad? I could be one of the few survivors when helping people get their T5 clears, only to then see them later with a Dreadwyrm piece. -
02-22-2015, 11:30 AMNinjaTaru72There's gonna be an Alexander raid? Oh my god, he's gonna be a primal? I swear to the twelve SE better give him as an egi at some point then. Please God's of SE give an Alexander egi and my life will be completedQuote:
Originally Posted by Garlyle
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02-22-2015, 11:32 AMElusana_Celah
Wish you were on my server. I spend great amounts of time every week teaching people T9. Lots of people have been moving to FCoB now. I cleared T9 5 times and it feels so amazing every time you down that b**** I just want the world to experience it too lol no joke.
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02-22-2015, 11:36 AMKrrSort of. He's the Primal of the goblins and the dungeon will take place inside of him. Sort of like how the 'real' Bahamut is too large to fight in Coil but we get to bust up dragons and avatars of him inside of Coil. Sometimes while on his hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72
T9 is probably the most nightmarish piece of content in the game to pug right now. It's worse than T5 when SCOB was relevant... -
02-22-2015, 11:43 AMJim_BerryI been on Malboro since beta phase 2 on PS3 (was Cerberus beta phase 1). I hadn't looked at the thought of moving. Not sure what keeps me on Malboro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elusana_Celah
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02-22-2015, 12:07 PMPurrfectstorm
I'm concerned with your talking about buying T9 in terms of dollars. Is $30 a lot to clear a turn? Yes. But players aren't charging dollars, they're charging gil. The only ones who think of gil in terms of dollars are gil sellers and gil buyers.
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02-22-2015, 12:08 PMGarlyleI know that feeling. Behemoth was that for me for a long time, especially after my initial FC dissolved in ten different directions. That said, make sure you've got a home or friends on whatever server you head to or you'll wonder why you bothered spending the money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim_Berry
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02-22-2015, 12:21 PMFyrmurlFloerasksynTotal rip off. On tonberry they go for about 2.5 mil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim_Berry
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02-22-2015, 12:33 PMGilraen
I'm lost why you're comparing gil to real money... I mean, the two are about as related as apples and oranges. Seriously, stop giving RMT credit for... anything. Though, if you really want to find out how much gil is worth in real money, ask around how much a wedding ring is worth. You know, the only 'legal' means of turning money into gil.
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02-22-2015, 01:10 PMSapphicLol, thats old news, git with the times :P http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/im...Alexander2.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72
I've a theory regarding bahamutQuote:
Originally Posted by Krr
That Bahamut Prime is his real size and the large one is the primal version, just like loisioux (sp) is not the same size as Phoenix, that Bahamut the primal was created in the same way Phoenix was, just that it was the dragons crying out instead of Eorzeans due to the Allagans -
02-22-2015, 04:30 PMKagatoACDitto this, I got tired of waiting for my FC's semi static to get re organized and bought a clear for 2 mil on Famfrit.Quote:
Originally Posted by FyrmurlFloerasksyn
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02-23-2015, 05:53 AMBrickshouse
Just a thought we play games for a challenge why pay to win? all your doing is filling a criminals pockets to progress one dungeon, why not learn to beat it rather than be carried. And not forgetting breaking the TOC if you pay Real money, which will enevitable get your account deleted / banned and what progress does that give? Nothing, just destroys what genuine challenges you have beaten, why jeapodise that for a single dungeon?
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02-23-2015, 06:27 AMPurplenum
I'm really surprised at how easily people give up on coil. There are literally no mechanics leading up to golems besides placing meteors, which is an EXTREMELY trivial task.
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02-23-2015, 06:34 AMNinjaTaru72
The real question here is...
Will there be a Alexander egi?
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02-23-2015, 06:38 AMZumiNo its where the new raid takes place.Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72
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02-23-2015, 06:58 AMNoshpan
You needn't worry about Final Coil being required to unlock Alexander, the end game for 3.0. Though if you want to beat the Coils for the sake of saying that you did them, I can understand that. If you were on Leviathan I would introduce you to a linkshell I was recently invited to. They helped me get my T5 clear for my Leviathan character last night. (I've already done up to T7 on my Behemoth character, so now, both are caught up.)
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02-23-2015, 07:57 AMShinji_Ryukishi
My first T9 attempt in DF I got to divebombs. I don't think I've ever gotten a group that couldn't make it to golems. I would try DF for a while.
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02-23-2015, 08:32 AMLovescakeholy crap hey jim lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Jim_Berry
I moved from Malboro because there's nothing on it anymore, that server is pretty much dead now apart from approximately 1-2 groups, heck even trade and co left to go onto other servers because of how low populated and low potential there is.
i moved to Odin and i got t9 downed instantly, ive even cleared FCoB multiple times now and ive not regretted my move. but 8m for T9? wtf. on Odin its like 2.5m max if i remember for t9, if i was you i'd consider the cost to move, i didn't regret it and i doubt you will. that server held me back and i felt like i was paying a sub to do my weekly poetics. -
02-23-2015, 08:36 AMKaworuHow friendly is the Odin population? I'm thinking about moving from Diabolos to Odin =D Are there many players? how's the queue?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lovescake
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02-23-2015, 08:40 AMLovescakewell in comparison to Malboro its like drinking wine in comparison to drinking drain water.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaworu
Odin is normally always lively, remember though it is an EU server, while the majority do speak English as a first or second language, theres some germans, french, dutch etc.
Usually see t9 farms, pony farms, new primal farms and tries, practice groups, heck ive seen t10-13 in PF and ive heard of a PF group getting to divebombs in t13 before having to drop. its pretty decent for every aspect really, however it does have a bit of an inflated market but everyone seems friendly, i transferred, spoke to a few people in Limsa and now im in quite a few linkshells and a pretty lively FC :P
ALOT OF players.
Queues - Pretty decent, like 5m or less for roulettes dps, PvP queues are like 20m max for me on Maelstrom. dungeon queues are pretty decent too :) if you ever transfer hit me up on it :D -
02-23-2015, 08:51 AMSpawnie
yeah odin world is generally lively n tons of nice n helpful players i remember once i asked in mordhona about starting high tier craftin n some1 made me full set for nothin lol considering all i wanted to know was how to get started XD
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02-23-2015, 09:53 AMDoki
I've seen mercs doing T10 & T11 for 25m and T12 & T13 for 50m... so yeah I'll wait for echo or story/easymode.
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02-23-2015, 09:54 AMIllya
The T9 struggle is real guys
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02-23-2015, 10:02 AMElusana_CelahReally...? I was good with the whole fight after 14 practice tries. And it only took 14 cuz I had to find a group that could get to phase 4 consistently enough for me to practice that too lol. Oh well, everyone has different learning speeds and I'm sure these players have become much more skilled at this game as a result of this struggle and should be able to learn hard content a lot easier in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Illya
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02-23-2015, 11:37 AMGallianohttp://i.ytimg.com/vi/fCAlMyKYUI4/maxresdefault.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72
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02-23-2015, 01:07 PMSessureaIndeed stuff is pricy, but then look how easy it is to make gil here. lvl twenty-something items, cost under 1k to make, under 30 seconds to craft and sells for 15-20k, and usually fast. I've made my millions casually filling up the retainers with junk more or less, very comfy economy once you take part in it. Had a friend move here from sargatanas. he was broke as phuck there, actually doing roulettes for the gil bonus, and on odin he is rich w/o trying hard. Very easy-mode economy-wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lovescake
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02-23-2015, 02:53 PMEdgeFayth
Crazy.
In my FC, we provide free T9 carry if people are available (FC members only, of course).
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02-23-2015, 03:10 PMMeiUshubecause sometimes it is so frustrating not only in terms of not making it but also in terms of insults received from other players because you dared to queue in DF when you are still learning the fight that it paying for it seems the only option to just move on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brickshouse
Paying says that you dont know the fight and says also that the rest of the group, if they want to be paid, WILL have to succeed so less abandon and less insults.
Although I never paid sometimes I wish I had.
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02-23-2015, 03:54 PMJim_BerryI'm not one to have ever had more than 3 million. When I got the /tell from a Gil seller, I simply had the thought that if someone really wanted the clear, and didn't have the Gil, then they'd be buying the Gil for $30 to give it to the group that is clearing for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilraen
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02-23-2015, 03:58 PMJim_BerryWould be nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noshpan
Having all my Coil wins up to T9 (excluding Savage) before they were unlocked via DF, you'd think I'd got T9 cleared by now lol... -
02-23-2015, 04:01 PMJim_BerryMalboro is active, but mostly at peak hours. I get to enjoy content on my off days from work during those times. Other than that, I get off at 11pm. Only thing in PF is people selling stuff, Atma farm, and sometimes Hunts lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lovescake
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02-23-2015, 08:04 PMTheRogueXQuote:
Originally Posted by Purrfectstorm
I'm not a bit concerned by this. It's a completely relevant and realistic leap of logic; the people who are most likely to buy runs through raids are also probably much more likely to buy gil with real money. THESE are the lazy people raiders should REALLY be complaining about... not the casual players who just want access to a story mode of Coil. How are you two so blind to that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilraen
As an aside, I wonder how the guys who sell runs feel about the fact that they're profiting in-game off of gil buyers and gil sellers?
Really? Everybody plays games solely for a challenge? What about people who play for story? Due to the challenge faced in the raids, some people are being denied access to story. I'm not saying it's right for people to sell runs through the dungeons (or for people to buy them - that whole "market" shouldn't exist and solely serves to line the pockets of gil farmers/sellers), but I understand some peoples' motivations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brickshouse
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02-23-2015, 09:16 PMAccolade
8mil does sound expensive yes. I see shouts on our server offering the carry for 1mil-1.5mil (but cannot lot drops).
Basically groups carry you for your 100 sol and a shot at gearing THEIR alt classes. Earning gil and progressing THIER Zodiac grind, whilst also gearing is a damn sweet deal for the carriers, compared to a t9 clear.
BUT obviously beating t9 opens FCoB, which means access to more weekly content for the carried person, and lets face it t10 and t11 are very easy, so it also opens opportunity for dreadworm gear. This to me is worth 1mil (not that I bought my win), but not 8mil. -
02-23-2015, 09:29 PMNovaUltimatumJust bear in mind that the most capable groups usually require people with the clear for the last tier of raiding content. Final Coil cleared in the case of Alexander.Quote:
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Otherwise, yes the system itself should not have much before being able to enter. But we all know getting a decent group is the harder issue for raids. -
02-23-2015, 09:44 PMStouterTaruThey are probably selling their weekly lot on gear as well, that's why those are more expensive. I couldn't imagine someone paying for a clear with no drops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doki
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02-23-2015, 10:06 PMZaftGetting the lot is much more. Looking at 100m+.Quote:
Originally Posted by StouterTaru
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02-23-2015, 10:15 PMMandoska-Beauregard
Is not the same price on all the server. On Moogle it's 2 at 2.5m with loot for T9.