Better gil maker: GSM/Cul/Alc?

Just reached 50 on my Cul (was harder to reach than GSM - MB prices are crazy).

Was likely going to make my GSM my main DotH class, but, it seems easier to make gil as a Cul than a GSM. I honestly am only in it for Gil lol.

Was also planning on making Alc. Which one will likely yield a greater reward?

Lol alchemy ever getting gil that's a good one Actually I make a lot of money off of alchemy but rarely sell big purchases, except for specialty items like augments, desynth books, and perfect pounces

Seriously though, while the greatest rewards of all of those may vary, and currently I'd probably say goldsmithing, what is most in demand changes with each patch so there's not really a consensus on what's "best". Though it's a safe bet to say half the time a patch will screw blacksmithing pretty hard, and the DoH classes tend to make the stuff you'd think they would make. It's also unwise to have a "main" DoH class. If you're only in it for the gil, you may want to stick to reading the market board for quick selling recipes worth a few bucks because endgame crafting outright requires if not strongly urges you to max out every DoH class, meld all your gear, and invest a lot of time, hard work, and gil to see marginal profits.

If you just want fast gil go spiritbond materia or gather. Good crafting is an investment.

I'm not experienced by FAR in any crafts (Only carp and cul to 50 and I suck at making money), but from what I see, Culinarian desynthesis is where it's at. I also heard from others that Culinarian may not have a huge profit margin, but it sells faster and more steadily than other crafts

Hard to make any profit in this game ... all the under cutting that happens is like crazy , and not just by like 10gil they do it by like 25000gil + like why would you want to cheat yourself :O

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Originally Posted by Hohoz

Hard to make any profit in this game ... all the under cutting that happens is like crazy , and not just by like 10gil they do it by like 25000gil + like why would you want to cheat yourself :O

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To make it unprofitable for you so you leave my market and I can go back to selling higher instead of having to watch the market every 5 minutes for someone who undercuts me by 1 gil. That stuff bugs me, but I understand why it happens, so I actively try to make those people go away.

GSM is the best in terms of gil/hour IMHO. 3* is where I make the most money with GSM. There is only so much demand for these, so there is a limit to how much you can make on those. CUL is more labor intensive, but you can sell large stacks. Alc can make some money. Last I checked, terminus putty cost 5-10k to make and sold for 30-40k. You can often make decent money by making more obscure ingredients like varnish, shark oil, and mortar. If no one else is bothering to make the stuff, you can get away with a nice profit margin.

Eventually you'll level up all the crafters for the cross-class skills. Leveling up a crafter is always an expense that later you recover. The more classes you have, the easier you level the others since you'll be able to make the mats for the crafts needed for the leves.

You need to watch the market board and find what items you can make easily, sell quickly and at good price, and hopefully don't have a lot of offer at that moment. If some item sells a lot, it's not that bad there are a lot of offerers, since it quickly gets sold. If an item does not sell very quickly, having a lot of offerers may mean the price will go down and down before you can finally sell yours. Best look for another one to make. Sometimes an item does not sell quickly but you are the only one making it and it sells for good price, that's other option, until more people sees the chance and starts to make it too.

Of the three classes you mention, I would think GSM looks better to make gil, at least before very high level. All classes wear accesories, and you can start earning gil before you are high level.

Alchemy can make some nice gil i can clear at least 800k a day from it, gsm nets me 1mil+ per day, cul though i never use Just because of shear quantity of mats needed (it can make you at least 500k+ a day)
Pretty much every craft can net you alot apart from carpenter dat recipe list....all i use it for is primal weapons and 3 star mats
Pay attention to the market on each craft, don't just focus on high level recipes, with gsm i made 2.5mil in one day just from a lv 30 something item XD

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Originally Posted by Hohoz

Hard to make any profit in this game ... all the under cutting that happens is like crazy , and not just by like 10gil they do it by like 25000gil + like why would you want to cheat yourself :O

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If you don't need the gil right away you can just wait it out. When someone undercuts that much I figure they need the gil right away and their item sells fairly quickly in most cases. If they are trying to bully the market you just need to have patience.

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Originally Posted by Atlaworks

Lol alchemy ever getting gil that's a good one Actually I make a lot of money off of alchemy but rarely sell big purchases, except for specialty items like augments, desynth books, and perfect pounces

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I completely agree on this. Before 2.5, ALC was by far my most profitable class. ALC was OP. Then they improved all the other 7 DOH classes in 2.5 (ALC was left behind).

No crafting class is so-called a better or best gil maker.

It all depends on what is needed on the market at any point in time, and patch cycle. Different parts of the patch cycle will have different needs so you need to know what people wants at the minimum, and if you have the capital, you can make some predictions and pre-purchases/preparations for materials before the actual patch/demand hits.

Those players who had to keep coming to forums to ask "how to make gil?", "which job makes the most gil?", "what is the best 3*/4* rotation?", probably aren't cut to make gil from the market, or have already missed the time to make the gil (since I believe that all worlds are already saturated with crafters).

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Originally Posted by Hohoz

Hard to make any profit in this game ... all the under cutting that happens is like crazy , and not just by like 10gil they do it by like 25000gil + like why would you want to cheat yourself :O

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Honestly, sometimes I have a glut of supply, and things aren't selling fast enough, or I don't want to deal with a particularly viscious undercutting market, so ill price them way down, and short sell my over-supply. when I have 40 mastercraft demi's, that one mil that I lost by selling them at 25k underpriced, is really not worth my undercutting every 20 minutes for 3-4 days just to sell at full price. let another seller buy it, and make the extra profit for the extra work, and ill move on with my life, 11 mil richer.

Depends on your preference and if you have a supporting DoL or need to buy mats off MB. My preference is CUL only because I can farm my mats, where it makes sense, and craft the items. People may not agree on CUL, but the reason I do it is because food has a shelf life when used so it tends to move faster although at a lower cost.

Take a look at the MB, and make sure to check history. If an item has a ton of sellers, but many purchases chances are your stuff will still move even when the board is crowded. Now, if you find anything DoL related that has no sellers (1-2 star) that's where I make bank. I pull about a mil a day filling a single retainer with a combination of stacks and single item foods.

Do not, I repeat, do not underestimate the gil Alchemy can fetch. To this day, NQ Natron can get you a good amount of money for little effort. Believe it or not, even attribute Mega- and X-potions can sell for decent amounts.

Culinarian is great if you're looking to make your own foods for dungeons/raids and can get you a lot of gil if you can harvest the ingredients.

I find cul amazing in that u can fit many semi-valuable items in the same slot. This becomes more worth it when your other retainer slots are filled with 1 per slot items e.g. eqs.

In my server, 4* Culinarian-made food sells quite fast... For 20-30k each (and each recipe makes 3 food). Thank you goblin raiders !

The 4* GSM crafted stuff sell for millions (1-2mi) but they will sit on MB for weeks if not months till someone buys it. Actually most i sold was not through MB, but by selling to ppl shouting /with a PF up for a specific ring/earring/whatever.

3* CUL food sells for about the price of 4*, but each recipe gives only 1 food, so there's more work involved on crafting those, in a way. (However, you have to have worked hard to be able to craft 4* in the first place >.< )
I'm not aware if 3* GSM stuff still sells, it's been a while since i stopped crafting those for lack of demand. Not sure it changed, i'd say it didn't, at least on my server.

I think tht tge best class is "Builder of the Realm". Best for sale positions ate unstable and can be a product of any class. Item level means pretty nothing too, sometimes some i40 items may get more profit than i55+ greens.

Ps And i don't see any well saled for 30K food on my server )
Max price has Tailor-made Eel Pie - 200K, 10-15 items/day, ingredients costs ~ 100K
Roast Canard - 35K, 1-3 items/day