Relic Quest (Beyond Zodiac)

The rumor mill has been stirring with the new relic quest being released next week. Does anyone have confirmation on this? I couldn't find anything in the Live Letters.

I first put this in items but it is probably better suited here.

Yes, they said that it would continue in 2.51... somewhere. I believe that's next week, though it might be the patch the month after.

They've milked dungeons, materia, soldiery items and fates enough for relic grinding.

Only a few things I can see them using for the next part:

EX primals
Hunts (Hell no)
Desynthesis (Kinda good if you bothered leveling it like me.)
Achievement points (kinda good if you like doing everything.)
Triple triad cards (Best trolling)

Probably more Fates.....or hopefully Primal fights.

Its 12 super atma, that's the only confirmed part.

What I would like to see is a series of fights against shades of the actual Zodiac Braves to prove your worthiness to wield their ultimate weapon.

its all in the last patchnotes, "atma are now stackable to 99 each." almost as good as that 1.4% success rate troll lol

I am 2/5th's of the way through my novus and I purchased all the items for zodiac. So all I will need to do is dungeon atma once I have nexus. I am hoping to get caught up before the patch which will most likely not happen but more so on the zodiac stage. With the light boost it is helping.

The dungeon atma is pretty bad. People grinding dungeons doing Snowcloak or WP 40+ times and not getting the item they want. The RNG can be a blessing or it can be the worst thing to ever happen. I already started that Atma 2.0 and I can tell you its not fun doing Aurum Vale a few times and it takes like 40 mins per run.

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Originally Posted by Halon

The dungeon atma is pretty bad. People grinding dungeons doing Snowcloak or WP 40+ times and not getting the item they want. The RNG can be a blessing or it can be the worst thing to ever happen. I already started that Atma 2.0 and I can tell you its not fun doing Aurum Vale a few times and it takes like 40 mins per run.

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You do get alot of loot and gil out of it though if you leveled some desynthesis skills.
The one that was the longest for me was blayflox and everytime I ran it I asked for the accessories (which most people let me have) and made a ton of gil on rose gold ingots.
The monkey dropped too, but sadly I didn't get.

I'm ok with anything SO LONG as it does not include anymore RNG B.S.

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Originally Posted by Kerwin

I'm ok with anything SO LONG as it does not include anymore RNG B.S.

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Please look forward to it.

Has any of the relic (besides Zenith) been easy?

I doubt it will be primals.

12 "super atmas" featuring the same 12 signs again

B rank mobs totally ignored.

12 atmas from 12 B rank mobs incoming.

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Originally Posted by SirTaint

Probably more Fates.....or hopefully Primal fights.

Its 12 super atma, that's the only confirmed part.

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Where was this confirmed?

They should make Chimera EX / Hydra EX and some quest that requires to beat them, then the next step of the quest should be beat all EX primals ONCE, one shotting it, with no party member deaths.
No b.s. RNG, plain and simple. It would be a nice nostalgic way to remember how the relic even started (with actual difficult content by that time)

If ppl can't beat EX primals by now, they dont deserve (much less need) a lv135 (?) weapon.

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Originally Posted by aerolol

They should make Chimera EX / Hydra EX and some quest that requires to beat them, then the next step of the quest should be beat all EX primals ONCE, one shotting it, with no party member deaths.
No b.s. RNG, plain and simple. It would be a nice nostalgic way to remember how the relic even started (with actual difficult content by that time)

If ppl can't beat EX primals by now, they dont deserve (much less need) a lv135 (?) weapon.

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Yeah but I think titan ex is still a problem for a lot of people because of lag, finding a 100% capable group and etc.

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Originally Posted by Its_Elodie

Yeah but I think titan ex is still a problem for a lot of people because of lag, finding a 100% capable group and etc.

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will revert back to 2.0 days looking for that perfect party to pass titan HM but instead titan ex

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Originally Posted by krazyrs

will revert back to 2.0 days looking for that perfect party to pass titan HM but instead titan ex

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Exactly.
Titan EX is way easier now than Titan HM was on 2.0 when people had level 70 (or lower) gear.

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Originally Posted by Its_Elodie

Yeah but I think titan ex is still a problem for a lot of people because of lag, finding a 100% capable group and etc.

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I really can't understand the "lag" thing.
Me and my group beat t10 and t11 with no issues last week while i was tanking on a freaking mobile 3G connection and I'm in South America, thousands of miles from the server.

People who blame lag for dying to plumes/bombs/landslides are just either lying or are really bad players who can't see for themselves that the issue is their timing and reaction. It's not the zomg lag.

That said, sometimes lag spikes do happen, but it's nowhere as frequent as people make it seem to be.

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Originally Posted by Talia_Hailwind

Only a few things I can see them using for the next part:

EX primals
Hunts (Hell no)
Desynthesis (Kinda good if you bothered leveling it like me.)
Achievement points (kinda good if you like doing everything.)
Triple triad cards (Best trolling)

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Desynthesis? zodiac quest says hi; the items needed for it require components gained through desynthesis of ilevel55 items. Hunts are also debatably the fastest source of Alexandrite still. I don't see achievements having any statistical impact on any gameplay element either; all the stuff it rewards is cosmetic as is. EX primals are spot on though. But hey, I'd play Triple Triad with Rowena for a relic upgrade.

That said, I think they learned their lesson with making players go outside their regular stomping grounds from the atma books, and how much players loathe RNG from the atmas themselves. It'll probably be some resource that you need to get X amount of and can be obtained through dungeons, trials, or the like in varying quantities.

I read super atma in the thread though, and it worried me just a smidge.

Just... please.... keep it separate from crafting.

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Originally Posted by aerolol

...then the next step of the quest should be beat all EX primals ONCE, one shotting it, with no party member deaths.
No b.s. RNG, plain and simple.

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That's kind of a dumb idea, you are not responsible for their mistakes. If had a 'without dying' clause in it then that clause should be limited to yourself only. It is your quest not theirs, your weapon not theirs and they have no vested interest in making sure you achieve it so any penalty or clause, restriction or impact on that quest should be limited to yourself outside of getting the clear which is the only shared interest of the group.

I have been trying Titan Ex for the past two months. I still can't clear and mainly it is due to other people dying. Cleared all other primals except Shiva. Only because I haven't attempted it. Titan is my last roadblock to getting to Ifrit. It is quite annoying.

While I am cool with Primals being the way to get the loot. It would also be a good chance at the Pony. There is a factor to getting the clears and it isn't based on your own skill.

Be pretty funny if it was just as simple as Spending 1500 poetics like how you needed 900 myths for zenith.

You know.....just to give us zodiac farmers a break from......

a man can dream

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Originally Posted by SirTaint

Its 12 super atma, that's the only confirmed part.

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source of this or BS.

There WAS a theory about magicithes and atmas, but it was used as a joke for that Ma-atma word play (cf Maat, FF11, fight which required you to know how to play instead of spamming 1-2-3 to clear, and was locking levelling past 75).

I'd be surprised if people got that straight and thought it would be super atmas....

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Originally Posted by ExiaQuanta

Be pretty funny if it was just as simple as Spending 1500 poetics like how you needed 900 myths for zenith.

You know.....just to give us zodiac farmers a break from......

a man can dream

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considering the scandal in 2.0 from raiders because a similar weapon to allagan "only" required 3 weeks of tome farming, I can't see this happen. sorry :/

Be prepared to spend more gil, gc seals, craft and desynth and spam more fates and dungeons... hoo ray

I would actually laugh, so very very very hard if EX primals happened to be it.

EX primals I wouldn't mind doing.

PLEASE let it be Primal EX atma. 10% drop rate. Some ponies for your problems. I would squeal with joy.

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Originally Posted by Talia_Hailwind

They've milked dungeons, materia, soldiery items and fates enough for relic grinding.

Only a few things I can see them using for the next part:

EX primals
Hunts (Hell no)
Desynthesis (Kinda good if you bothered leveling it like me.)
Achievement points (kinda good if you like doing everything.)
Triple triad cards (Best trolling)

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Triple Triad ftw! 'bout time I dusted off the ol' Squall+Rinoa+Omega Weapon deck!

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

source of this or BS.

There WAS a theory about magicithes and atmas, but it was used as a joke for that Ma-atma word play (cf Maat, FF11, fight which required you to know how to play instead of spamming 1-2-3 to clear, and was locking levelling past 75).

I'd be surprised if people got that straight and thought it would be super atmas....



considering the scandal in 2.0 from raiders because a similar weapon to allagan "only" required 3 weeks of tome farming, I can't see this happen. sorry :/

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Maat did not require skill, Maat required a lv 50 Thief to steal said Warp scroll and warp out of there.

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Originally Posted by Iagainsti

Maat did not require skill, Maat required a lv 50 Thief to steal said Warp scroll and warp out of there.

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"Maat as it was intended" then :p

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Originally Posted by Iagainsti

Maat did not require skill, Maat required a lv 50 Thief to steal said Warp scroll and warp out of there.

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When people were first getting to lvl70, unless you lvled THF first, Maat required another 3-6 months grind to 70 lol. Poor people that lvled RDM first.....

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Originally Posted by aerolol

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so not only atmas to farm again, but light farming for each one of them ?

The relic has better to be the strongest weapon available for all the pain we endured so far then...

Absurd new farming aside... Wonder how the final weapon will look like. They cannot add a big ass glow to it, because if they go Nexus glow overboard, dying those weapons will be meaningless.

But they did mention that when you finish your relic some attacks would feature new animations, didn't they?

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Originally Posted by BlueThunder

But they did mention that when you finish your relic some attacks would feature new animations, didn't they?

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It would be cool(though utterly unlikely) if it changed some abilities to fancier versions, with animation + a small boost of some kind. Something like changing Aero/Stone/Thunder into Tornado/Quake/Burst with a little more attack power. It would also be an interesting way to make them desirable even if they're behind the current raid weapons in raw output.

Obligatory "We need to obtain X amount of Unobtainium" post from me.

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Originally Posted by RiceisNice

Obligatory "We need to obtain X amount of Unobtainium" post from me.

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I was wondering when this would come

What if you only need 1 stone and it corresponds to the guardian that you picked when you made your character!? Praise the twelve!
Then each would have thier own list of things to do, such as Oschon, the Wanderer you would have to do fates in certain areas all around the world.

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Originally Posted by aerolol

Exactly.
People who blame lag for dying to plumes/bombs/landslides are just either lying or are really bad players who can't see for themselves that the issue is their timing and reaction. It's not the zomg lag.

That said, sometimes lag spikes do happen, but it's nowhere as frequent as people make it seem to be.

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It is as bad people say. You should color yourself fortunate to not have to deal with either the amazing servers Level 3 has or the poor service others receive from their provider. As a matter of fact..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tek00rSir-E 0:42
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNiOk7IdmNU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edkks4hpBH8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y42H3RPuZrk wow

You're pretty ignorant. This should enlighten you a bit.

they need new content for the relics, stop making us go back and back to old content.. just an opinion but this old stuff needs to become old and done with :0