does limit break damage scale with level/gear?
like if one dps notably out gears the other, would his lb do more damage? or would it be better for the other dps to use it so that the better geared one is still on the boss?
question on limit break
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02-16-2015, 04:07 AMaisustrongquestion on limit break
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02-16-2015, 04:40 AMSleigh
Completely dependent on the average iLVL of the weapons in the group. Who uses the LB has no impact on the damage, and also, no buffs or anything impact the damage done.
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02-16-2015, 05:27 AMNutzThis is accurate. As such, you'd want the weakest melee or caster DPS to use the limit break, depending on which type you want to use. Sometimes it's preferable for a MNK not to use the LB because it can cause greased lightning to fall off if their skill speed is too low (potentially wasting more DPS than if a better geared DRG or NIN used the LB, for example).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleigh
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02-16-2015, 06:38 AMaisustrongwhat about debuffs on the caster or the victim?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleigh
and so if there was say, a light party where the dps and tank all had i120+ weapon on and the healer had i100 weapon on, it would make the lb do less damage? -
02-16-2015, 07:05 AMAlmalexia
It's the average ilvl of all weapons in the party independent of buffs or debuffs. eg. LB can penetrate stoneskin on Garuda EX.
A party with 3x ilvl 120 and 1x ilvl 110 would be ilvl 117.5 for the purposes of LB damage calculation. -
02-16-2015, 07:47 AMOdowlaWell, except when you do, and it hits for 0..Quote:
Originally Posted by Almalexia
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02-16-2015, 08:08 AMJudge_Xero
Another thing that effects LB is dead teammates. I believe they are counted as a 0 towards the average.
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02-16-2015, 08:45 AMSkeith-AdelineIn other words, SMNs cast only.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nutz
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02-16-2015, 08:50 AMAlmalexiaLB will deliver the full damage, melee or magic. Give it a try.Quote:
Originally Posted by Odowla
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02-16-2015, 09:53 AMaisustrong
also im guessing the new ilevel sync affects this too
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02-16-2015, 04:01 PMSleighI've never seen this ... proof?Quote:
Originally Posted by Judge_Xero
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02-17-2015, 05:05 AMJudge_XeroOnly proof I have was from doing T9.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleigh
People dead from Heavens Fall meant I couldn't kill the Ghost with Mage LB + Dots -
02-17-2015, 11:20 PMTex_MexI never have tried, but it seems like it would be a fun test. i may try it with my raid group tonight if i get the chanceQuote:
Originally Posted by Judge_Xero
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02-18-2015, 12:46 AMArg0n
Does Foe Requiem increase the Caster Limit Break?
And other debuffs on boss like trick attack or something? I think they don't increase LB but maybe someone knows it exactly :P -
02-18-2015, 01:20 AMMrCookTMThis was tested and no, unfortunately neither of them gets increased. :( It's just flat out LB potency scaling with the average ilvl of the weapons of the party it seems, regardless of the buffs/debuffs/circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arg0n
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02-18-2015, 01:30 AMWerhuskyHad a shiva HM in DR Trial this week someone bitched at the raised firsttimer monk that HE used the Limit Break "What a waste" "Weakness affects the LB strenght".... This completely wrong or am I mistaken?Quote:
Originally Posted by aisustrong
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02-18-2015, 02:03 AMMrCookTMYeah lol, this is complete bs. ^^ I've also had alot of instances during ruda hm light farming where someone (usually the healer lol) complained about the lesser geared melee doing the lb (which makes absolute sense, since the better geared one can stay on the mob without sacrificing damage) because it does 'less damage'. xD I stopped bothering correcting those ppl, most of the time they insist on being right anyway, even if the whole party tells them that their wrong... ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Werhusky