Relic quest Vs. Future Weapons?

Is the Relic Quest worth the time and work when you can just get the a different weapon e.g. Final coil? Just wondering, because I don't want to put all this time and effort in then a few patches later a weapon that beat the Relic hands down comes out...

Relic is constantly updated.
It could be behind the coil weapons like now, or BiS for a short time like Nexus was.

Its worth it if you don't have any way to try Final Coil. It seems like the Devs will always update relics and give players a choice on how to arm themsleves.

I'd say it really depends. For example, can you get a Dreadwyrm weapon faster than you can complete the most current step of zodiac? If the answer is yes, then good for you. If no, then it's worth it even if just to help you clear content to replace it.

For the simple fact that you can do coil with alternative weapons until you get Dreawyrm or Augmented Ironworks, is it worth it? That is questionable. I agree with what Zophar has stated.

The Devs did say that the relic weapons will be upgradable throughout the levelling 50-60 and stated that it will have its place just like your Relic and Relic+1 did early endgame.

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Originally Posted by Iagainsti

The Devs did say that the relic weapons will be upgradable throughout the levelling 50-60 and stated that it will have its place just like your Relic and Relic+1 did early endgame.

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I do wonder though.....do they mean u NEED current relic for post expansion relic?

Relics are super useful when a new raid comes along. Also useful if u have terrible luck with raid weapons. Augmented weapons will always be more than good enough, but is that good enough for you? Will you be happy using augmented crep when u could have 135 relic? All boils down to that I guess.

TL:DDR
Yes, get your relic done.
Unless you are farming final coil everything else is just so/so compared to a personaly tailored relic. And once you get it caught up upgrading it to be current to each new patch isnt that bad.
need less lights now, atma easier, spiritbonding easy. no reason not to.

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Originally Posted by Sessurea

I do wonder though.....do they mean u NEED current relic for post expansion relic?

Relics are super useful when a new raid comes along. Also useful if u have terrible luck with raid weapons. Augmented weapons will always be more than good enough, but is that good enough for you? Will you be happy using augmented crep when u could have 135 relic? All boils down to that I guess.

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I want to believe Relic +6, bc if they fast track it at xpac time, I and everyone else who took the grind to heart (2% atma farming fml, books for 1200 myth >X) will feel duped.

If it is true that a new relic path comes with expansion, I'll check that.
Yep this relic always ugradable, but the path from vanilla relic to latest, become more and more difficult to follow for a new player, with every patch adding steps to that. On vanilla XIV we were able to get 2nd best weapon with a little quest chain, and "just" killing the first three hard primals. Said "just" because at that time, iLevel made that kills an achievement. But anyway doable in a fraction of the time a new player have to put today to get same result, aka to get one of the top 10 best weapons.

My guess is they'll add a quest which allow to skip to the i125 zodiac at expansion, so you'll be a or two step behind those who completed the relic before AND without the option of customize your stats. This way the old relic users will still have something to show for.
It'd be easy to make up a quest with a "use this unfinished excalibur to slay THIS or THAT boss", alike to chimera or hydra back then.

Why I'm saying the i125 version? Because no glow, like the original i80 relic.

I don't see this happening but worth a shot what if they make it Atma = lvl 52 weapon, animus = lvl 54, novus = lvl 56, nexus = lvl 58 and zodiac = lvl 60. But they will still keep ilvl. I can also see them making the stages way easier to complete. This would make it all relevant in 3.0 also put people who started relic quest some place in the stage of the quest, also I'm thinking some of it not most of the lvl 50 dungeons scale from 50-60 this way will have less they have to create for PPl to lvl in come 3.0.

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Originally Posted by Horobi

My guess is they'll add a quest which allow to skip to the i125 zodiac at expansion, so you'll be a or two step behind those who completed the relic before AND without the option of customize your stats. This way the old relic users will still have something to show for...

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Considering the stats could be modified, unlikely there will be "without the option of customize your stats".
Moreover, every stage is a quest that has it's own story and CS, I think dev would not remove them.

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Originally Posted by IceSpear

Is the Relic Quest worth the time and work when you can just get the a different weapon e.g. Final coil? Just wondering, because I don't want to put all this time and effort in then a few patches later a weapon that beat the Relic hands down comes out...

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I would suggest just keep doing Relic Quest, as you've mentioned "Relic Quest", do it for the Quest! ^^;

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Originally Posted by Iagainsti

I want to believe Relic +6, bc if they fast track it at xpac time, I and everyone else who took the grind to heart (2% atma farming fml, books for 1200 myth >X) will feel duped.

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ur already duped mate. I spent 18 hours searching for east shroud atma back in the day. Recently done full nin atma in a few hours. Animus book? np do 4 akhm. Alexandrite? np u get one from seals for killing 5 A ranks ( not to mention the ones u find between A ranks from fates with boosted drop rate ). Nexus nerf was extreme. I really burnt out on original nexus, but was walk in the park when I done it post nerf.

Best advice is try to feel like relic is worth it for the use you make of it right now. Everything in FF becomes useless, eventually. I don't see why relics can't fall into this category also.

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Originally Posted by Sessurea

ur already duped mate. I spent 18 hours searching for east shroud atma back in the day. Recently done full nin atma in a few hours. Animus book? np do 4 akhm. Alexandrite? np u get one from seals for killing 5 A ranks ( not to mention the ones u find between A ranks from fates with boosted drop rate ). Nexus nerf was extreme. I really burnt out on original nexus, but was walk in the park when I done it post nerf.

Best advice is try to feel like relic is worth it for the use you make of it right now. Everything in FF becomes useless, eventually. I don't see why relics can't fall into this category also.

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I did feel a little duped when atma/light/alex drops were increased, but I wouldn't of waited had I known, it was awesome having a 44 crit/ 25 det/ 6 acc Bravura at my disposal when novus was BIS.

I hope they just make the drop rate one and done so new players and old people coming back can catche up. all the lore and none of the hasle. pluse 60gear will make all pre expansion useless or sub par. thats just how mmos tend to work