I know that to many people thought that this game would FFXI-2, and to many think this way yet, but the true is that this game is very different from the other.
But what was different about this game?
I liked the way the recipes were. But I know that this, for many players, was so hard.
I want just to type a petition here, if SE decide to lessen the recipes, that is fine to me, but I don't want to see that if a feather appears in my hat, the recipe don't need one, or if my staff appears jewelry, the recipe just use a stick of lumber.
As I said, I liked the way we create our weapons, clothes, tools, and more, because they use (in graphics) all the ingredients in the recipe. That's what made this different from other types of crafts.
I know that SE is interested for players and money, that is what WoW did, and after all, is what this game is, a business; Blizzard build an easy game where every one can play and be level 555555 in just one day, and I hope that don't happen here. And this is just an example, because I'm referring to all the game.
And the guild points was an excellent idea, was an other way to make this part of the game really fun and entertaining, a good challenge.
I decided to play FFXI for 6 or 7 years because it was a Japanes RPG game with MMO included, I Thought that this game would be something similar, but step by step is moving away far from this.
I believe that Naoki Yoshida will save this game. And I like they have feedback, but just because people cry, should not change everything in the game.
And starting from the beginning, Is this a different game from FFXI, or is like to many said, FFXI-2?
Maybe this game became WoW-II and developed by Square-Enix. I hope not.
Or maybe, just maybe, is not what the game is turning, maybe is the way we live our lives... Faster.
What is happening with FFXIV?
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08-24-2011, 04:40 AMCuauhWhat is happening with FFXIV?
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08-24-2011, 04:43 AMCommat
I like how you ended the op like one of those heart touching news segments.
+1 for you. -
08-24-2011, 04:43 AMAsterBarnivere
I suggest you go over THAR -->> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...n-t-you-notice Your questions shall be answered with a little reading..
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08-24-2011, 04:45 AMRemVye
I had a hard time figuring out what you were saying...
Is this a complaint or just something else? Hmmm -
08-24-2011, 05:09 AMStockapotapoulos
I think what he is saying is he wants crafting to remain challenging and complex. And a hat with a feather should include an actual feather for that hat.
I somewhat agree on his take. Crafting shouldn't be too easy, but at the same time, it shouldn't be a pain in the arse. But if he clicks on Aster's link to that thread, it should ease his worries. -
08-24-2011, 05:12 AMDoctorMog
Ill wait till the new crafting system comes out before I make judgement.
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08-24-2011, 05:20 AMRemVye
Hmmm... I sort of got that, but the whole "level to 5555555 in WoW in one day" threw me off and also the "petition" part!
Anyway, I don't really understand this whole debate on crafting. Making a item require more mats or less mats doesn't actually make crafting any easier or harder. Maybe 5% of people (random number guess right there :D) actually go out and farm all the mats to make the gear they want, the rest just buy them from market wards. Well that's what I do at least... so it doesn't make it "harder" to have more mats just more things to buy and more time / money to use lol.
I understand people wanting more "realism" though, like the OP said if a hat has a feather the recipe should have a feather! The way they had crafting setup makes logical sense, it's just a bit of overkill for some of the items. -
08-24-2011, 05:25 AMVerecund
Believe it or not, "leveling" is not the only means of gauging difficulty (not to mention it generally makes for a horrible measure of real skill as well).
WoW is successful because it is fun to play and has actual 'content' for all ranges of playstyles (even hardcore). This game, currently, can barely appeal to even FFXI's specific niche audience, and even then only in terms of party-play being vastly optimal for leveling. There's alot more wrong with this game than just "It is/isn't FFXI-2". -
08-24-2011, 05:29 AMDNO
realism and fun almost NEVER can be together.
thats why games are fake. thats why we are fighting monsters in FF14 and not obesity like many people are in real life. because its fun.. not real. once people get that they they will start to have fun..... -
08-24-2011, 05:31 AMAsterBarnivere
I actually want to make OJ the "logical" way, not with a pan
HOW DOES I MAKE OJ? -
08-24-2011, 05:33 AMStockapotapoulos
Maybe have different secondaries? In additional to the knives, we can have spatulas, cups, and oh yes, juice squeezers for OJ.
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08-24-2011, 06:17 AMChocobits
At first I was like "Oh hey, it's THIS thread again." But very soon I began to see the true shape of the thread. And I was like "What did I just read?! I feel like i just turned into a poptart and pooped out a rainbow!" But I totally see where the OP is coming from. A field of dreams. Dreams and a lot of hallucinogenic mushrooms.
At least it was a mildly happy post about relating this game to our everyday lives, and there was even a petition for more feathers, which is naturally relevant to my interests. I tire of all the angry rants. More posts like this would be fun to gather together and read via Kindle by candle light. In a log cabin. With my bestest fishing buddy. -
08-24-2011, 06:41 AMAeyisUnlike the OP's post i have a little difficulty understanding what you just wrote. Care to enlighten me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocobits
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08-24-2011, 06:59 AMChocobitsYou made sense of this?:Quote:
Originally Posted by Aeyis
I beg of you, please enlighten me. I just saw a lot of poorly phrased, contradictory generalisms, but which ended on a beautifully inspirational note. What did you take away from it?Quote:
I decided to play FFXI for 6 or 7 years because it was a Japanes RPG game with MMO included, I Thought that this game would be something similar, but step by step is moving away far from this.
I believe that Naoki Yoshida will save this game. And I like they have feedback, but just because people cry, should not change everything in the game.
And starting from the beginning, Is this a different game from FFXI, or is like to many said, FFXI-2?
Maybe this game became WoW-II and developed by Square-Enix. I hope not.
Or maybe, just maybe, is not what the game is turning, maybe is the way we live our lives... Faster.
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08-25-2011, 05:04 PMCuauh
I played FFXI for, how I wrote, because it was an RPG Japanese MMO.
When I discovered the crafting system and stuff, I really liked the way the game took. I never saw a game where you "make" something with a complex recipie was so funny.
And when I start to play this game, I expected something like the give us at start.
The way that SE decide to simplify recipes I really like. What I don't like is that if they decide to take away an item important in graphics.
I'm just waiting to see what this game become, like to many people.
Just hope that SE made a really (other) enjoyable game. -
08-25-2011, 05:28 PMthepinksupervisor
Wow the OP was so touching it made me tear up a bit.
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08-25-2011, 05:38 PMdarkstarpoet1yeah, shouldn't take rocket science to see how 100% hq rates by standard bashing a synth is easier than using abilities, touch ups, bold synthesis, and waiting when needed.......Quote:
Originally Posted by RemVye
when i make an item i either craft the parts myself or farm them myself. when i want to make a piece of finished gear for myself i always use all hq items at least +1. there's no way i am going to spend the outrageous prices for hq parts from the wards on my server. 500k for a iron rivet hq? no thank you. if i want a piece of hq gear i do my own gathering and craft up the items i need. -
08-25-2011, 06:05 PMFelisThe difficult would be to get all mats in HQ for your 100% craft. I think SE would reduce the chance to get HQ mats. And forget your +1 mats, they would be NQ in the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1
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08-26-2011, 01:50 AMdarkstarpoet1yes, i can see how getting a hq r12 iron ingot will be more difficult than getting r50 iron greaves as a r50 armorer. that doesn't even begin to make any logical sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Felis
no, you can say forget hq mats all you wish, but hq now means i collected to get hq mats. just because part of the hq now won't be then is irrelevant. if i was willing to take the time to get them then means i would take the time to do so afterwards.