can someone help me understand big fishing?

Okay, I just spent five hours trying to get the titanic sawfish. I have my gathering at 329. I have seen posts with people getting it with under 300 gathering. What I don't understand is why is it that I finally get a shot at catching it, I get a message telling me that I don't have a high enough gathering rating. (I know the weather has to be clear and it has to be between 9 am and 3 pm. I did all of that plus the moochin crap.)

Because what you ACTUALLY hooked was a Pirate's Bane, requiring 370+ gathering and the Fisher's Intuition buff from catching 5 Wahoos. The Titanic Sawfish is just exceedingly rare.

To have more chances at Titanic Sawfish instead of Pirate's Bane you have to disable the Fisher's Intuition each time you get it.

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Originally Posted by Urthdigger

The Titanic Sawfish is just exceedingly rare.

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no it isnt...its a common dbl mooch, I nearly always get 1-2 per window
there are so many big fish which are way harder to get

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

no it isnt...its a common dbl mooch, I nearly always get 1-2 per window
there are so many big fish which are way harder to get

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When I was fishing for Titanic Sawfish, I would almost always fish up Silver Sharks. Virtually without fail.

I don't know what kind of fortune you have, but there is no way the Titanic Sawfish is "common" by any definition of the word.

its common compared to most of the other real big fish, it isnt even a big fish

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

its common compared to most of the other real big fish, it isnt even a big fish

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It took me two weeks almost non-stop to catch that fish. Some people mentioned they've tried it for months and this was before the green big fish. Compared to the Titanic Sawfish, almost all of the green big fish were less of a head ache time wise thanks to the small time frames they were catch-able. Anomalocaris was the ultimate time sink for me and the 24/7 fish outside of The Matriarch doesn't even deserve a mention~

But, RNG god likes some, dislikes some, and we can't do anything about it! :D

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Originally Posted by Highwilds

Some people mentioned they've tried it for months and this was before the green big fish.

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some ppl also mentioned that they did 5.000 fates during 1 week without seeing an atma

I really, seriously doubt you get 1-2 every window. That'd be the best moneymaker around if it were that common. Several hundred thousand gil an hour? Sheesh, you'd think I'd see folks up there fishing constantly!

the window isnt open anytime and why should I catch more than 1 or 2 at a time? It takes time to even sell a single one of them, catching more makes no sense if no buyer is available

20% chance to catch a goby -> 50% chance to have a wahoo -> 20% chance its hq -> 50% chance for titanic saw

sums up to 1% catchrate per cast, which is easy manageable if you start the window with a HQ wahoo

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

the window isnt open anytime and why should I catch more than 1 or 2 at a time? It takes time to even sell a single one of them, catching more makes no sense if no buyer is available

20% chance to catch a goby -> 50% chance to have a wahoo -> 20% chance its hq -> 50% chance for titanic saw

sums up to 1% catchrate per cast, which is easy manageable if you start the window with a HQ wahoo

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the rates are nowhere near that according to ff angler, goby's are 100% unless your using the wrong bait... a wahoo is roughly 60% chance on a mooch... the titanic swordfish... 7.5% on a hq wahoo

scource: http://en.ff14angler.com/?spot=30106...t=0&cmd=search

the rates at ff14angler are always wrong

ff14 angler counts every fish no matter of weather or time

if someone tries to catch titanic saw during rain or fog and gets 100 silver Sharks and 1/1 titanic during the right conditions the site will tell you 1/101, even if the true rate was 1/1 in that case

its the same thing with every big fish..., the numbers are only usefull to choose which bait is the best (because they usually dont have weather or time conditions, which distort the numbers)

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goby's are 100% unless your using the wrong bait...

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with 20% I meant HQ Gobys, thought that was clear, sry...

Maybe he just has hella good luck. Ive seen friends of mine get all 12 atma's (when first released) within a day, and others who didnt get a single one in a month. Ive seen, recently, a plethora of people getting the pony whistle drops within a few clears, while other havent seen one in over 50. RNG,,, a Really Not Great/Good system if you ask me.

getting a simple double mooch has nothing to do with tons of luck

titanic saw is as common as morinabaligi, poxpike and every other white 2 star fish

even canavan is way "harder" to get but people catch tons of it while aiming for kuno