sure the healer lb 3 is nice when your healers die but it's such a rare occurrence it's just not worth it. i'm tired of doing dungeon runs with people saying "lb" in chat but the melee classes just tunnel vision away.
if i can't have a real lb then at least give me a song for melee like foe's so they can at least make up for not lb'ing a bit.
(or you know make bard an actual support class and archer it's own class *wink wink nudge nudge*. four songs with one being for a slight speed increase and you call it support class? lol no, just no)
please change bard's limit break
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02-07-2015, 09:27 AMlxChrisxlplease change bard's limit break
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02-07-2015, 09:30 AMdice137
Yoshi-P already confirmed in a Live Letter that BRD's LB is changing in the future. He didn't say to what, but it IS changing.
I believe the eventual plan is that every job will get it's own unique LB.
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02-07-2015, 09:31 AMWobble
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02-07-2015, 09:33 AMlxChrisxlthank god! i'm going to cry if it's something really lame. seeing as how they hate bards i won't get my hopes up yet but at least it's a change.Quote:
Originally Posted by dice137
still hoping for a melee buff song though. never understood why we only got one for mages/healers. -
02-07-2015, 09:39 AMChiiSoSeriouz
I believe devs have already mentioned they will in fact be changing bard's lb in the near future, it will be separate from healer's lb.
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02-07-2015, 09:59 AMSlappah
It would be pretty epic if they had the casters aoe LB and instead of meteors it's a huge rain of arrows type thing.
Or even a single target lb.
Idk, I just think it'd be cool if bards had a damaging lb instead of the heal/revive -
02-07-2015, 10:04 AMLexiaUseful or useless? bard LB give 30 seconds of infinite TP to all party members. yea yea there army's paeon no the same thing thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by lxChrisxl
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02-07-2015, 10:09 AMUltimateAoe2Bard LB?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lexia
Do you mean Army's Paeon?
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02-07-2015, 10:14 AMdice137I personally think it's because we only had two healing jobs and a BUNCH of DPS jobs. Since the healing LB3 is more useful in more situations thank the tank LB is, they likely did it purely for the sake of balance.Quote:
Originally Posted by lxChrisxl
(That and from a lore standpoint, it's not too farfetched. Bards are supposed to motivate allies. I always think of their LB as their big "don't give up! WE CAN DO IT! GET UP!" song. Mechanically, I've always hated it... But lorewise, I can appreciate it to a certain degree.)
Regardless, it's changing either way, so yay~ Personally I'd like to see them do a party-wide SUPER BUFF song, so maybe something more straight-forward like a magical arrow death shower! -
02-07-2015, 10:15 AMZaftSeems redundant to me. You already have a TP restoration song, one that is used quite frequently I might add.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lexia
That being said, something similar to Corsair's 2hour where everyone instantly got full TP/MP wouldn't be bad. -
02-07-2015, 10:19 AMLexiaIt SE we talking about thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Zaft
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02-07-2015, 10:21 AMAnarnee
: They are already going to change it. Which bums me out. Nothing like being the last one alive and rezing everyone.
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02-07-2015, 10:52 AMlxChrisxli was talking about only having a damage increase song for mages/healers(foes) and not one for melee :bQuote:
Originally Posted by dice137
hmmmm outside of the t13 type fights i don't see it being used at all and inside t13 i don't see it being useful enough since you'd be singing during those fights anyways even if we had this lb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lexia
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02-07-2015, 11:09 AMdice137If I had to guess... Maybe it's because the only buff that BLMs/SMNs can get that increases their spell dmg is Raging Strikes from ARC? Meanwhile, all other DPS have access to at least two or more dmg buffs (Blood for Blood, Internal Release, Raging Strikes, Hawk's Eye, Barrage for BRDs, combos for MNK).Quote:
Originally Posted by lxChrisxl
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02-07-2015, 02:15 PMSnugglebutt
I am pretty sure I read somewhere the new bard personal LB is going to be a DPS LB not a support one.
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02-07-2015, 02:19 PMGralnaTo be more precise, they said they are looking into giving brd and drg new limit breaks, and that sometime in 3.0 they will be giving every job their own unique limit break ANIMATION.Quote:
Originally Posted by dice137
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02-07-2015, 02:25 PMXgungraveX
haste would be nice
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02-07-2015, 02:32 PMAlberel
Bards will be getting a new LB in Heavensward.
That said, LBs are still going to be shared by role. The new job-specific LBs are cosmetic only, they will still have the same effect (and only a couple of them are actually going to be introduced in 3.0, with the others added over time). The only reason bards are getting a totally new one is likely because Machinist will need a unique ranged physical LB as well so bards will share with them. Any hopes of some Bard-specific LB won't be happening; it'll be a DPS LB of some kind shared with Machinist. -
02-07-2015, 05:49 PMLemuria
They'd probably just turn it into some kind of healing song. Same effect, just different visuals. They had a perfect opportunity to give Bard something new and unique in Frontlines with the adrenaline meter, and they STILL gave them a redundant healing skill. Just... don't expect miracles. We all want it, but SE are keen to tease us instead.
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02-07-2015, 06:44 PMNalien
Still think every Job should get two Limit Breaks just to make things more dynamic. White Mage can do Healer or Mage Limit Break, Scholar Healer or Tank. Paladin Tank and Healer, Warrior Tank and Melee. etc. etc.
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02-07-2015, 06:47 PMFoxyAreku
I'd like an LB that increases everyone in the party's stats by a significant amount.
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02-07-2015, 07:12 PMSapphicHealer LB is pretty useless in turn 13, as if you get to point where you need to use heal LB, might as well wipe and restart, as you will do pretty soon after due to weakness, We 2 bar melee LB during 2nd phase to skip 3rd rage and at least 2 bar tank LB needed for transition to 4th phase.Quote:
Originally Posted by lxChrisxl
Weakness makes healer LB less usefull, if they removed weakness from being rezzed with it, then it would be pretty tasty. As Ive seen it so many times on fights with mucho AE. Healer 3 bar LB, minute later all those who were dead are dead again. XD -
02-07-2015, 08:58 PMMistyMew
all out pure dd lb please
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02-07-2015, 09:51 PMNalienI'd quite like to see a Support and Ranged specific Limit Break. Support giving the party a buff, Ranged being somewhere between Mage and Melee potency but applying a strong debuff on the target as well. Really there should be a Limit Break for every main stat;Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxyAreku
STR - Melee.
VIT - Tank.
DEX - Ranged.
MND - Healer.
INT - Mage.
PIE - Support.
Would love it if they moved away from building Lv3 Limit Break and firing, and more towards everyone having multiple Limit Breaks to pick and potentially make use of, even if that's just the current 1 role 1 Limit Break system but with letting us pick whether to do 3 Lv1 Limit Breaks or 1 Lv3 Limit Break. -
02-07-2015, 10:06 PMTonkraQuote:
Originally Posted by lxChrisxl
Im pretty sure its going to be a damage LB... due to the "damage dealer role" in Duty finder.
But it also may end up with some kind of "Support LB" what ever this could be... maybe a limit break that grants a strong HP/MP/TP regeneration over time?
e.g. : Limit Break III - Heals 20% of HP/MP/TP and grants a strong regeneration over time.
But it may also end up with an AoE ranged Limit Break with Arrows.. like for casters. lets see
i think its quiet difficult to balance it by having a personal Limit Break for every player now.. this means that they need to redesign every dungeon or boss.. because it could become too easy then..Quote:
Originally Posted by Nalien
And Final Fantasy 14 being a MMorpg i kind of think its okay that the limit break is limited to the whole group. It adds tactical aspects to it as well .. you have to use it rarely and in the right moment together.. well timed in a good group play (which Limitbreak and to which time). But if everyone has its own LB... you wont care a lot about the LB anymore... it just would become an other Skill which you fire out... when its ready..
in the new PVP Carteneau Mode you already have your own personal Limit Break metre ... which is called "Adrenaline".. and its quiet a spam fest, i can tell you.
/edit sorry i havent read your post quiet carefully... having 3 bars and using three level 1 Limit Breaks.. could be interesting..
the question is how they could implement that. maybe by having three different Limit Break Buttons. Limit Break I , Limit Break II, and Limit Break III. and when you have three bars and you press the LB I button.. you end up with 2 Limit Break bars.. then you could either make use of an other LB II or two LBI's.
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02-08-2015, 12:10 AMKaedrianLiangThis most likely. In the DF if a caster cant fill a slot it pairs an brd/archer with a melee, under the ideal circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slappah
Then again, if a melee cant fill a slot from a pick of the line, a brd will be paired with a caster.
Or is it if a brd cant fill a slot a melee is paired with a blm? or a blm is paired with a brd?