Differences between PS3 and PS4 besides graphics?

I ordered a PS4 from Amazon and it's looking like it should be here by Friday evening. I plan on taking advantage of the free upgrade. But I'm curious what the differences are performance wise.

Framerates.

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Originally Posted by KodiHivaer

Framerates.

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More specifically, PS3 runs at about half the framerate (Target 30fps, as opposed to PS4's 60fps target.)

Performance aside, the game looks much better on the PS4 than the PS3 since it has more effects and a higher resolution.

How are the load times?

As a person who passed from ps3 to ps4 - believe me the loading times are awesome, you won't know what hit you at how fast are they in comparison of the ps3 :) I was in awe for the first month XD

Load times are much, much better. The game is hardly playable on ps3.

The load times are fast. Mor Dhona load times on PS3 took anywhere from 10-15 seconds at best when I played on it during the game's early days, whereas after switching to PS4, the load times decreased to a manageable 3-5 seconds. Load times in smaller, less populated areas are nearly instant.

You can see large groups of people on PS4 compared to on PS3 where, in order to see everyone, the system needed to buffer and load everything. Even after that, it probably still won't load everything in the immediate area and you will notice it if you move around a bit. I can't imagine the "fun" of having to do hunts on PS3.

Overall, the PS4 version is just superior in every way. Even without a side-by-side comparison, you will notice the differences very quickly if you are coming straight off the PS3.

You can at least attempt hunts

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Originally Posted by KirakunAUS

You can at least attempt hunts

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I could before. I would just have to be ready with my team before the horde gets there.

Also putting in a hybrid drive(ssd cache+spinning rust) can help a lot as well(first thing I did when I got my ps4 really) unless you have the funds to get a big ssd drive as well.

I believe there's even small touches here and there(jiggle physics in objects and obvious places as I believe it's disabled on PS3)...

Makes me want to hurry and get a job so I can get the PC version...

The main difference is PS4 have not reach its limitations.

A PS3 did.

There are also some UI differences between the two versions. The PS4 version has a currency and inventory display in its HUD that I don't believe the PS3 has.

Because of the PS4's redesigned controller you also have a touchpad you can make us of, which I've found very useful when moving furnishings around. It's much easier to select a piece of furniture with the touchpad than trying to find the one item you want to move in a list of 100+ other items.

Besides that, I think all the changes have to do with the graphical power of the PS4, namely the load times, changed physics, resolution, frame rate, and the like.

You can easily switch from controller to keyboard and mouse. It was not so easy to play keyboard and mouse style via PS3.

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Originally Posted by Anarnee

You can easily switch from controller to keyboard and mouse. It was not so easy to play keyboard and mouse style via PS3.

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I'm curious about this. On PS3, I just plug in a usb keyboard and I'm good to go. I always kept the keyboard right beside me. I assume PS4 still gives me this option, plus what you mentioned. Could you elaborate on that?

The two consolles are so much years apart that a technical comparision cannot be serious. The real thing about differences and already noticed about some QoL that cannot be done easily, is that PS3 have a limited number of objects that can be displayed on a frame, and the game already touched this limit, making any present and future development being aware of that at-every-little-change about what is displayed in game.

Pretty much PS3 support may be dropped one day, just for this single point of feature alone.

More players visible on screen.
Normal hotbars included (not only the crossbar), that allow the player to use skills with the keyboard

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Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth

I'm curious about this. On PS3, I just plug in a usb keyboard and I'm good to go. I always kept the keyboard right beside me. I assume PS4 still gives me this option, plus what you mentioned. Could you elaborate on that?

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When I switched to the PS4 I was able to use the same usb keyboard I bought for playing it on the PS3

I don't remember if they fixed this yet, but I remember someone else playing and not having the Focus Target option.

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...target_on_ps3/

The game looks so much better, it's almost like playing with your glasses vs the PS3 which is like playing without your glasses. Everything is sharper and has more detail.


Seriously though the game is better in nearly every way, physics, sound, visual effects, resolution, framerate, lighting, draw distance, load times, etc...I'd also say that whatever lag you might experience is less evident than on PS3.

With regards to the UI and such, the PS4 version is much closer to the PC version in pretty much every way including support for mouse and keyboard - PS4 supports standard USB keyboards and mice - it also supports the logitech bluetooth ones that were made for PS3.

Also, the PS4 voice-chat facility works while playing, which is helpful if you know other PS4 gamers on FFXIV, but sadly is not cross platform so to voice-chat with non PS4 players you'll still need a third party app on something else.

Oh, if you have a Vita, remote play actually works on PS4, and although you won't be raiding with it, Vita remote play is viable for crafting, gathering and general play. Just be aware that there is a bit of additional lag inherent with any remote play system.

When I upgraded back in the fall, it was like playing a whole new game. The things I could see! And teleporting into Mor Dhona doesn't take three minutes anymore. If you're wearing a skirt it will move with the wind. I have fewer (next to no) lag spikes. I can hunt now if I want to - I can even see the S ranks, which I couldn't before. I can play with player effects on and party member effects, so I can see where my Scholar friend put down Sacred Soil.

Do you have one of the King Slime hats? Someone above mentioned jiggle physics. It jiggles when you move. Other things jiggle, too. ;-)

Best thing you can do for either console is add an SSD/Hybrid SSD.

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Originally Posted by Steady

Best thing you can do for either console is add an SSD/Hybrid SSD.

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PS4's HDD is plenty fast, adding an SSD speeds some things up, but the degree of improvement when adding a SSD on a PS3 is like night and day.

The thing is that the HDD in a PS4 is a pretty standard 2.5-inch laptop drive, so you get load performance equivalent to a laptop running the game. Yes an SSD will improve things a bit, but it's not like the PS4 is suffering long load times.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

PS4's HDD is plenty fast, adding an SSD speeds some things up, but the degree of improvement when adding a SSD on a PS3 is like night and day.

The thing is that the HDD in a PS4 is a pretty standard 2.5-inch laptop drive, so you get load performance equivalent to a laptop running the game. Yes an SSD will improve things a bit, but it's not like the PS4 is suffering long load times.

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the PS4 HD is still 5400 RPM <<. Infact I got one out infront of me that I had replaced with a 99$ 1tb Hybrid a year back.

It's acceptable, not great. And the software is better than it was in the past.

http://www.ign.com/wikis/playstation...est_Comparison

Day and night difference between the 2, load times, graphics, etc.
One can also get a faster rpm hd and go with 1 terabyte (more space, yes please), ssd while true would load faster they just are not at all reliable.
A Hybrid would be a person's best bet if they have the money

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Originally Posted by Steady

the PS4 HD is still 5400 RPM <<. Infact I got one out infront of me that I had replaced with a 99$ 1tb Hybrid a year back.

It's acceptable, not great.

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And as I said, "Yes an SSD will improve things a bit, but it's not like the PS4 is suffering long load times."

5400rpm standard 3.5-inch sata laptop drive, yes, I know.

3 things will make any system with a 5400rpm drive faster.

larger cache on the disc controller
higher RPM (risks more noise, more power used, and some additional heat)
SSD/Hybrid (though historically the better models of these are more expensive and smaller than equivalent HDDs).

However, unless the acceptable performance of the PS4 is a problem, you're spending money to fix something that's not broken.

I have to say though that I will more than likely upgrade the HDD in my PS4 at some point when I want more capacity, and will look for a faster option than a 5400rpm. If I'm already at the point of upgrading there is no reason not to upgrade performance as well.

IDK, I was sold on upgrading my ps3 the moment I stopped dying in Titan HM way back when it was something.

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Originally Posted by Steady

IDK, I was sold on upgrading my ps3 the moment I stopped dying in Titan HM way back when it was something.

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110% agreed.

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Originally Posted by CGMidlander

More specifically, PS3 runs at about half the framerate (Target 30fps, as opposed to PS4's 60fps target.)

Performance aside, the game looks much better on the PS4 than the PS3 since it has more effects and a higher resolution.

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hmm i thought the ps4 version ran at 30fps as well.

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Originally Posted by sayafrost

As a person who passed from ps3 to ps4 - believe me the loading times are awesome, you won't know what hit you at how fast are they in comparison of the ps3 :) I was in awe for the first month XD

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^ this i agree with 100% lol

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Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth

I'm curious about this. On PS3, I just plug in a usb keyboard and I'm good to go. I always kept the keyboard right beside me. I assume PS4 still gives me this option, plus what you mentioned. Could you elaborate on that?

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:3 If you play with controller and just plug in your keyboard for typing it will work the same, plug and go~ But iiiiif you like to play PC style and use the mouse and keys to control everything, you can switch to that in your character config.

It seems like the cross bars are better managed also. On PS3 it seemed like there was a lot of overlap between classes.

On PS4 each class has their own crossbars by default and then you can choose which number cb will be common.

this video gives you a very good look/comparison between the ps3/ps4/pc versions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDPbXAKxNdc

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Originally Posted by Kukajoo

this video gives you a very good look/comparison between the ps3/ps4/pc versions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDPbXAKxNdc

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I saw that video already but it did not contain the information I was looking for, so I made this topic. The video just shows graphical comparisons. I was interested in knowing more.

The PS4 has a better processor than the PS3 and so it would run the game a lot smoother than the PS3. In the end it is better to upgrade if you can. I play on PC but I have read a lot of people amazed at the stark difference of moving to PS4.

Duty notifications on your controller!

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

Duty notifications on your controller!

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As someone who occasionally plays DPS, this sounds pretty badass.

One big difference i noticed was little animations were different, like how my robe flowed when i moved, as well as my hair, and uh, my character's boobs began to jiggle when i moved.

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Originally Posted by Domira

hmm i thought the ps4 version ran at 30fps as well.

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PS4 will run at 60fps when there isn't a lot of things happening at once. Go into a crowded area or face off against an S rank hunt and you will see fps DROP accordingly.

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Originally Posted by Antanias

PS4 will run at 60fps when there isn't a lot of things happening at once. Go into a crowded area or face off against an S rank hunt and you will see fps DROP accordingly.

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Just like pc then, not a bad deal for a console system at all. I don't think any system can maintain 60fps with huge crowds.