Endgame Gear Checklist?

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08-22-2011, 03:00 PM
LoydTallister

Endgame Gear Checklist?

I am getting close to rank 50 and I was wondering what gear I should try and get. I also want to make this a endgame gear check list for anyone who gets that armor or lance that is just awesome. :D
08-23-2011, 06:02 AM
Krausus

Champions Lance
Mosshorn Scale Mail (mostly for looks since a hauby has more strength)
from the dungeon I would pick up the boots, and helm at least, pretty decent chest piece but damn is it ugly, not a fan of the weapon but its free. I don't have either of the boots or helm so I wear Iron Sabatons and the conquistador elmo.
For the belt I wear a tarred voyagers and gloves I where iron guants, pants I wear leather skirt.
Accessories I go with 4 silver rings.
08-23-2011, 08:38 AM
Frein

If you can't afford a HQ Champion's Lance, go for HQ Banneret Lance. Banneret +1 costs less than 1/10 of a NQ Champion's but is, oddly enough, better in every way. Non-lance weapons are usually not worth using as the 100% piercing damage type seems to increase damage output against most enemies.

I'd wear a full set of iron plate (cuirass, sabatons, celata, gauntlets) until you can get your hands on Dzemael Darkhold gear like Solid Scale Mail. For pants you'll want Tarred Leather Trousers and for accessories I prefer quantity over quality by going 4x Brass Ring + 1x Mythril Choker (this setup prioritizes ATK, then ACC and also gives high defense stats other than HP). If you want to further boost your defense you can swap those for different pieces but the trade-off doesn't seem worth it. Iron Plate Belt is most likely the best all-purpose belt.

For fights where you aren't going to take much damage, Kokoroon's Darkshell Mail, Conquistador's Elmo and Warden's Gauntlets give you more damage output. The Penance belt also works but I think the benefits are extremely marginal and the negative stats on it aren't very nice.
08-23-2011, 10:27 AM
Akira

i use
Banneret Lance+2
Helm of the lone knight
Mythril Choker+1
Solid Scale mail
Mitts of the Lone knight
Electrum Ring+1 x2
Templars Tassets
Tarred Leather trousers(Blue)+2
Bladedancers Jackboots

i have Champions Lance+1 but banneret +2 beats it by 3 atk and 5 acc
08-25-2011, 12:55 AM
Krausus

just wondering why you folks prefer tarred leather trousers over leather skirt? is it the defense? skirt gives health and more str as well as 1% slashing damage cut and 1% lightning cut over trousers 1% blunt.
08-25-2011, 01:08 AM
Belial

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Originally Posted by Krausus

just wondering why you folks prefer tarred leather trousers over leather skirt? is it the defense? skirt gives health and more str as well as 1% slashing damage cut and 1% lightning cut over trousers 1% blunt.

Currently (pre-1.19/1.20) the biggest perk for -any- piece of armor is it's defense. The way stats on gear work currently, they are worthless. The only stats a physical DD should worry about on any piece of equipment at this point in time is +Attack and +Accuracy.
08-25-2011, 01:09 AM
syntaxlies

there are some good new food options out there, i get about 83 hp for 30 minutes on grilled dodo.
08-25-2011, 01:10 AM
Krausus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belial

Currently (pre-1.19/1.20) the biggest perk for -any- piece of armor is it's defense. The way stats on gear work currently, they are worthless. The only stats a physical DD should worry about on any piece of equipment at this point in time is +Attack and +Accuracy.

will be changing soon though.
08-25-2011, 01:11 AM
Krausus

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

there are some good new food options out there, i get about 83 hp for 30 minutes on grilled dodo.

go for the shepherds pie, gives health and attack
08-25-2011, 01:14 AM
syntaxlies

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Originally Posted by Krausus

go for the shepherds pie, gives health and attack

thanks for the tip, i haven't had the chance to experiment with food as much as i want
i think im gonna buy most food with my grid and LL seals since they dont have any gear that i really want, and they are gonna have the new high rank armor recipes in path 1.19 that will prob blow everything in game right now away.
08-25-2011, 01:43 AM
LoydTallister

What are the stats for the miqotkabobs (mithkabobs) anyone know?
08-25-2011, 02:03 AM
Budi

I believe in the power of stats!

Weapon: Iron Halberd +3
Head: Silver Tricorne +3
Body: Vintage Haubergeon +3
Heands: Mitts of the Lone Knight
Belt: Penance/Iron Plate Belt +1
Legs: Tarred Leather Trousers +3
Feet: Bladedancer's Jackboots

A long way untill I get all of this.
08-25-2011, 02:41 AM
syntaxlies

Quote:

Originally Posted by Budi

I believe in the power of stats!

Weapon: Iron Halberd +3
Head: Silver Tricorne +3
Body: Vintage Haubergeon +3
Heands: Mitts of the Lone Knight
Belt: Penance/Iron Plate Belt +1
Legs: Tarred Leather Trousers +3
Feet: Bladedancer's Jackboots

A long way until I get all of this.

iron gauntlets are better then the mitts esp if you get +3 which apparently you are quite fond of
iron sabtons are better then bladedancers esp if you get+3
when 1.19 comes out they are gonna have rank 50 cobalt armor which will be best

also iron celata +3 is better then silver tricorn +3
oh, and penance is a rank 35 belt, here are a ton of things better then that.
im only telling you this cause you believe int he power of stats so i thought you should know there is better stuff.
08-25-2011, 06:04 AM
Frein

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

for extra damage output you can use bladed lantern shield as well. i think its about +8 attack, but im n not sure since i dont use it.

And all this time I've been thinking spears and polearms are two-handed weapons. Silly me!
08-25-2011, 05:44 PM
Budi

Quote:

Originally Posted by syntaxlies

iron gauntlets are better then the mitts esp if you get +3 which apparently you are quite fond of
iron sabtons are better then bladedancers esp if you get+3
when 1.19 comes out they are gonna have rank 50 cobalt armor which will be best

also iron celata +3 is better then silver tricorn +3
oh, and penance is a rank 35 belt, here are a ton of things better then that.
im only telling you this cause you believe int he power of stats so i thought you should know there is better stuff.

I believe in the power of stats, so Armor is not important for me. I think that most of the high end gear has just a liitle less armor than Iron Gear. I use the boots and mitts because they give good stats as in STR, DEX and ACC.
08-25-2011, 11:04 PM
Belial

Quote:

Originally Posted by Budi

I believe in the power of stats, so Armor is not important for me. I think that most of the high end gear has just a liitle less armor than Iron Gear. I use the boots and mitts because they give good stats as in STR, DEX and ACC.

That might matter in the next couple patches, for now the most beneficial aspect of gear is Defense, and +3's have more Defense than dungeon loot.
08-26-2011, 06:39 AM
Krausus

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Originally Posted by Belial

That might matter in the next couple patches, for now the most beneficial aspect of gear is Defense, and +3's have more Defense than dungeon loot.

only if you are getting hit, as a lancer you should not be unless soloing or the only melee in the group
08-26-2011, 11:16 PM
Belial

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Originally Posted by Krausus

only if you are getting hit, as a lancer you should not be unless soloing or the only melee in the group

Whether you get hit or not, +STR/+DEX/+VIT etc. on gear does not work properly, and does not sway any current combat content. The biggest benefit of gear currently is defensive value. Otherwise, gear is currently aesthetic.
08-27-2011, 02:32 AM
Krausus

those stats do have effect just not a lot.
08-27-2011, 03:26 AM
Belial

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krausus

those stats do have effect just not a lot.

That's the point, the stats literally don't matter.
I could have all kinds of great stat gear, and beat the toughest bit of content right now.
I can also have absolutely no stat affected gear, and get the same results.

If stats are that useless, then there is no point worrying about them until they do, in fact, matter.
08-27-2011, 05:43 AM
carraway

From a min/max DPS perspective, in order of easiest to acquire to hardest to acquire (I use the terms "easy" and "hard" loosely since DH is basically trivial):

Weapon: Banneret / Champion's Lance
Head: Conquistador Elmo
Body: Kokoroon's Scale Mail / Solid Scale Mail
Hands: Warden's Gauntlets / Mitts of the Lone Knight
Waist: Penance
Legs: Leather Skirt or Tarred Leather Trousers
Feet: Cavalry Sollerets / Bladedancer's Jackboots
Jewelry: Mythril Choker + Brass Ring x4 or Mythril Choker + Garnet Ring x2

ATK and ACC have the most observable direct effect, point for point.

All non-lance type weapons are inferior to lances except on very specific mob types, i.e. crabs.
08-30-2011, 12:32 AM
Krausus

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Originally Posted by Belial

That's the point, the stats literally don't matter.
I could have all kinds of great stat gear, and beat the toughest bit of content right now.
I can also have absolutely no stat affected gear, and get the same results.

If stats are that useless, then there is no point worrying about them until they do, in fact, matter.

Oh I agree, but now would be a good time to obtain said items, come 1.19 prices are gonna skyrocket
08-30-2011, 12:33 AM
Krausus

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Originally Posted by carraway

All non-lance type weapons are inferior to lances except on very specific mob types, i.e. crabs.

Thank god there are some reasonable lancers around =)
08-31-2011, 12:56 AM
Belial

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Originally Posted by Krausus

Oh I agree, but now would be a good time to obtain said items, come 1.19 prices are gonna skyrocket

There are no prices on most of the stat gear since it's Unique/Untradeable drops. I'm really interested to see what they do with stats though, how well stats work on items will either please or piss off a lot of crafters who work for the HQ items. But of course the materia system will likely provide balance. Guess it's time to stop being lazy and start working on some crafts.