Just an FYI about the new Artisan's gear in Mor Dhona

They apparently can't be desynthed. I just bought the gloves to check that, but no option is available to desynth. I'm guessing the same goes for the rest of them (besides the original specs and weapons). So any WVR, CRP, or LTW hoping to get any mastercraft from them, it seems you won't be able to.

wait, he sells the crafted artisians gear? does he sell the gathering gear as well?

It's a different set, ilvl70 but can't be melded. Has about the same stats as max melded i55 gear. Also, no gathering equivalent gear.

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Originally Posted by Gralna

It's a different set, ilvl70 but can't be melded. Has about the same stats as max melded i55 gear. Also, no gathering equivalent gear.

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man gathering is getting dumped on, no difficulty reductions. no trade in item reductions.

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Originally Posted by Dargondarkfire

man gathering is getting dumped on, no difficulty reductions. no trade in item reductions.

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Gathering isn't difficult though. It's really only time gated by unspoiled node spawn times.

Compared with crafting, there are material costs and you need to spend time & money getting all crafting classes to 50 if you plan on getting serious. Also, on my server at least, crafting materia is more expensive. There are also more sets that you need to meld. (Assuming you don't drop a large investment in HQ Crafted Artisan gear right from the get-go.)

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Originally Posted by Gralna

It's a different set, ilvl70 but can't be melded. Has about the same stats as max melded i55 gear. Also, no gathering equivalent gear.

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To expand on this - It's almost as good as max melded i55.
It comes short of optimum i55 melds, though.
It's base stats are also just 1 less than some of the HQ i55's, such as CP2 instead of CP3 on the body.

This set was designed for new crafters who haven't many melds.

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Originally Posted by SetoKaiba

To expand on this - It's almost as good as max melded i55.
It comes short of optimum i55 melds, though.
It's base stats are also just 1 less than some of the HQ i55's, such as CP2 instead of CP3 on the body.

This set was designed for new crafters who haven't many melds.

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Slightly worse, but still good enough to help you bridge the gap between i55 and i60 pieces, without having to spend a fortune melding 9 classes to get their upgraded main hand tools. Now you can just meld one class, get the i70 pieces, equip it to all of your crafters, upgrade all of their tools, then you can start making your own i60 gear.

Isn't the new iLvl 60 Artisian gear still only crafted or can I buy it from an NPC? I Checked the guy to trade in stuff to, but no avail there.

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Originally Posted by AdamuKun322

Isn't the new iLvl 60 Artisian gear still only crafted or can I buy it from an NPC? I Checked the guy to trade in stuff to, but no avail there.

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the ilvl60 crafter gear can still only be obtained by crafting them, either by yourself or someone else. The ilvl70 crafting gear, you get from the same npc you get your upgraded MH tools from. Each piece requires 5 HQ of the 2 star trade in items from your master recipe list for that craft.

Can they please fix the gear to be desynthed as, or change it so that the glasses can't be desynthed as well? I hope this is something they just forgot to add and add it soon.
I do really like the gear though it helps get my footing some.

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Originally Posted by NyssaElf

Can they please fix this or change it so that the glasses can't be desynthed as well? I hope this is something they just forgot to add and add it soon.
I do really like the gear though it helps get my footing some.

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Why? This is the only way I can possibly get Mastercraft Demateria. The materia prices are breaking the bank. So ya. Need some options here.

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Originally Posted by DaffyRoth

Why? This is the only way I can possibly get Mastercraft Demateria. The materia prices are breaking the bank. So ya. Need some options here.

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Sorry my wording is terrible. I mean I agree this gear should be able to be desynthed as well. If they don't plan to change it though then glasses shouldn't be able to be desynthed either.

I dunno about suddenly making it so you can't desynth glasses, but yeah, I sort of assumed the new artisan gear would be desynthable. BTW -- would it have killed them to give the set a different name?

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Originally Posted by NyssaElf

Sorry my wording is terrible. I mean I agree this gear should be able to be desynthed as well. If they don't plan to change it though then glasses shouldn't be able to be desynthed either.

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Fair enough lol. Was kinda "WHY on earth would you want to make it harder?!?" ;p

Finally getting all my crafts to 50 and was hoping this gear would allow skipping the melding of the i 55 gear. I was planning on buying the turn in items only to find out you cant. So no matter what you still have to fully meld 1 set to make turn in items yourself to get this set. Getting into endgame crafting is just so daunting and expensive.

I really just want to make my own stable brooms. So maybe that's the set I'll meld and use it to get the artisan set for all my others and see where I go from there.

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Originally Posted by Welsper59

They apparently can't be desynthed. I just bought the gloves to check that, but no option is available to desynth. I'm guessing the same goes for the rest of them.

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Perhaps you already knew this and it's just the phrasing that make me thing otherwise, but you can see in the gear description if it can be desynthed or not, so you didn't actually had to get the gear to know that.

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Originally Posted by Ymal

Perhaps you already knew this and it's just the phrasing that make me thing otherwise, but you can see in the gear description if it can be desynthed or not, so you didn't actually had to get the gear to know that.

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Where? (i could just be blind right now) i'd like to know to avoid this mistake in the future :x since i did the exact same thing as the OP lol

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Originally Posted by Ymal

Perhaps you already knew this and it's just the phrasing that make me thing otherwise, but you can see in the gear description if it can be desynthed or not, so you didn't actually had to get the gear to know that.

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Unfortunately there is no way to tell if gear is desynthable or not. The "convertible: yes/no" text only applies to converting to materia from spiritbonding and the general rule for that is that if it isn't craftable it can't be converted. This does not apply to desynthesis as the general rule to desynth has been any non-exclusive item (such as event items are generally exclusive and basic materials such as wolf fang for example) up to whichever item level SE has set it to if it isn't crafted as any equipment crafted has generally always been desynthable so you could desynth i100 and i110 gear before 2.5 came out if you so wanted, it just wasn't cheap or optimal.

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Originally Posted by Ulathskullsplitter

So no matter what you still have to fully meld 1 set to make turn in items yourself to get this set. Getting into endgame crafting is just so daunting and expensive.

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You don't need anywhere near maxed melds to do 2* synths, especially with the ability to get HQ versions of the i70 materials that used to make it hard to get HQ items for the first master books. Go all HQ i55 on one class, goldsmith works great to make/meld your own accessories. I had 2 aetheryte rings with 3 craft in them, 4 craft in my offhand, no melds in my body pieces when I started doing 1* crafts. That should also be enough stats to do 2* crafts, but if not slap a few +4s in your body slots, and once you get the books making the tokens is easy, though pricey on your shard count. Make yourself 10 tokens to get your artisan primary, then make the 20 tokens you need (much easier now with higher craft/control) and load up on the i70 Artisan's gear.

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Originally Posted by desufin

Unfortunately there is no way to tell if gear is desynthable or not.

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I just checked and we are actually both right. I don't know if that was a known fact??
But turns out you can see that information about the gear in the French version but not the English one.

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In order are, Glasses in Fr, Chest piece in Fr; Glasses in En and Chest piece in En.

As you may notice the English only gives informations about Convertible and Projectable, while the French one also gives info about Recyclable (desyntesis); so we can see that you can desyn the Glasses (Recyclable: oui) but not the Chest piece (Recyclable: non).

Think it was mentioned on a similar thread that they will adjust them to be in a future patch.

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Originally Posted by Ymal

As you may notice the English only gives informations about Convertible and Projectable, while the French one also gives info about Recyclable (desyntesis); so we can see that you can desyn the Glasses (Recyclable: oui) but not the Chest piece (Recyclable: non).

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Well thats imbalanced. why it shows whether it is desynthable in one version and not another is a serious oversight. Means difference between having to actually buy something to see if it can be desynthed to having the info readily available before.

Needs be fixed.

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Originally Posted by ruskie

Think it was mentioned on a similar thread that they will adjust them to be in a future patch.

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Hopefully already 2.5 part 2 *crossed fingers*