Kind of hate the PVP queue.

I'm seriously hating on it. I once took the time to actually wait for a frontlines queue as a DPS and it took me a hour and half to finally get the "commence" popup, but it ended in a 10minute "A party member is not ready" fest... Worst part, no one really PVP's on Ragnarok, atleast, I can't find any at all...


I seriously doubt I'll ever get access to any of the PVP mounts. They should really introduce a different way to get them...

I agree the minimum time to wait is 30 minutes. I wish we could queue with players outside our data centers. That's perhaps the only solution.

If square REALLY wanted to know what would make PvP queues faster I can tell them right now. Remove the stupid Grand Company requirement. Let me play with my friends. In our mumble we have on multiple occasions between about 2 dozen people all agreed that if this was removed we'd easily play PvP more often. It's the single largest wall to adoption that they have. It's the main reason I don't play it. I don't want to kill my friends. I want to team up with them. I could care less about grand company allegiances.

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Originally Posted by NoahArks

I'm seriously hating on it. I once took the time to actually wait for a frontlines queue as a DPS and it took me a hour and half to finally get the "commence" popup, but it ended in a 10minute "A party member is not ready" fest... Worst part, no one really PVP's on Ragnarok, atleast, I can't find any at all...

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You get up to 196 minutes, just to have someone not hit ready then have it pop back up and have your power go out. Then come back to me with your hate. Lol, but still I am sorry you had to wait on that. Sometimes the wait times do get a little long and I completely forget about it. Only plus I have is most of my friends are in the same GC, so it's not so bad.

The GC removal idea would let people get in faster. I just ask that "friendly fire" can be enabled. Team me with an Adder and I'll have no problem using Fluid Aura when they come up to the middle..then let me jump down with them and beat them with my staff as we both fall to our deaths..and maybe take a bite of his ear.

I thought the Savage would bring in more attention to PvP but I haven't tried it yet. I guess it hasn't really brought new life?

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

If square REALLY wanted to know what would make PvP queues faster I can tell them right now. Remove the stupid Grand Company requirement. Let me play with my friends. In our mumble we have on multiple occasions between about 2 dozen people all agreed that if this was removed we'd easily play PvP more often. It's the single largest wall to adoption that they have. It's the main reason I don't play it. I don't want to kill my friends. I want to team up with them. I could care less about grand company allegiances.

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Gating it based on Grand Company is a silly design choice which I can't wrap my head around. I understand *WHY* to give it a more immersive feel but when its affects playability and being able to team up with people you want in an easily manner then its a problem. Just make it Team Moogle, Team Chocobo and Team RabbitEars or something. I will gladly fight for the honor of the Moogles!

Add 25 allied seals per PvP match. That should shorten the queue times.

If someone declines the queue it still puts you into the group if you're complaining about that you must not have done FL since it was first released.

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Originally Posted by NoahArks

I'm seriously hating on it. I once took the time to actually wait for a frontlines queue as a DPS and it took me a hour and half to finally get the "commence" popup, but it ended in a 10minute "A party member is not ready" fest... Worst part, no one really PVP's on Ragnarok, atleast, I can't find any at all...


I seriously doubt I'll ever get access to any of the PVP mounts. They should really introduce a different way to get them...

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Not sure what GC you are, but I created LS on ragnarok a few days ago and already have 40 people as Twin Adder. We pvp daily, so if you are TA or dont mind switching you might join us. :))

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Originally Posted by Leigaon

You get up to 196 minutes, just to have someone not hit ready then have it pop back up and have your power go out.

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Does it count that after my FC took two hours to create a alliance for WoD, my PSU imploded on my on the second boss? Had to buy a complete new PC, and have to wait till saturday for a new GPU, haha

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Originally Posted by StrejdaTom

Not sure what GC you are, but I created LS on ragnarok a few days ago and already have 40 people as Twin Adder. We pvp daily, so if you are TA or dont mind switching you might join us. :))

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I'm up for joining. I'm only leveling my gathering crafts this week, so some PVP would be nice for a change up. I'm also already part of Twin Adder.

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Originally Posted by NoahArks

I'm up for joining. I'm only leveling my gathering crafts this week, so some PVP would be nice for a change up. I'm also already part of Twin Adder.

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I will invite you when I succesfully find you trough player search. x)

The whole queue system needs a revamp, including the dungeon ones...

They should be open for ALL servers, including the Japanese ones. It should put everyone together if you select all languages, this will reduce queue times tenfold. Why do you have an auto-translate feature if I'll never play with Japanese people?

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Originally Posted by Rekujin

The whole queue system needs a revamp, including the dungeon ones...

They should be open for ALL servers, including the Japanese ones. It should put everyone together if you select all languages, this will reduce queue times tenfold. Why do you have an auto-translate feature if I'll never play with Japanese people?

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Because we were once all together, and it was terrible. The only people who could play with decent latency were people who lived near the where the servers were kept (aka, Japan). The rest of the players had to experience what the Australians are experiencing now: 300-500ms as a normal or higher, and with all maintenance done based on JST (which often meant "during PST prime time"). By segregating the servers, we're able to have much better connections, and more localized maintenance times.

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Originally Posted by NoahArks

They should really introduce a different way to get them...

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I dont think they ever would, because believe it or not PVP queues are MUCH faster than they used to be, due to all the new patch features.
Imagine the time and effort that people put in prior to the hype (aka the career pvpers). I imagine everyone who has dedicated literally 6 months to get the mounts, due to horrendous queues will be salty if they become very common.

Its like handing out the latest coil gear models as glamours to fresh 50s, people would not be happy if they are not a special little snowflake anymore.

IMO TLDR;
Coil should take dedication and months of work to beat for pve minded players,
PVP should also take months of work to reap rewards for the pvp minded players.
If you wont both "endgame rewards", put the time in.

Dont expect things handed out willy nilly, this will surely cause the community to fizzle out if no content is left to beat.

Im all for adding new currency to each match to shorten queues, but offering alternate ways to get the pvp only things is not the best approach, but thats me

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Originally Posted by Zaft

Because we were once all together, and it was terrible. The only people who could play with decent latency were people who lived near the where the servers were kept (aka, Japan). The rest of the players had to experience what the Australians are experiencing now: 300-500ms as a normal or higher, and with all maintenance done based on JST (which often meant "during PST prime time"). By segregating the servers, we're able to have much better connections, and more localized maintenance times.

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I just meant for the duty finder.... u won't have to play with 400-500 ping if you make premade groups etc, but i think those of us lvlings alts is quite painful when queues pass the 30-40 minute mark, I would rather do 4-man dungeons with a slight chance of high ping instead of waiting 30-40 mins imho.

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Originally Posted by Accolade

IMO TLDR;
Coil should take dedication and months of work to beat for pve minded players,
PVP should also take months of work to reap rewards for the pvp minded players.
If you wont both "endgame rewards", put the time in.

Dont expect things handed out willy nilly, this will surely cause the community to fizzle out if no content is left to beat.
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To be honest with you, you aren't making sense. Months of work shouldn't imply 200 minutes of queue. That would literally mean I do one thing a day and I can log out again. Sorry to say, but I don't spend 9 hours a day in the game during the week. Even in the weekend it's pretty rare for me to stay on that long. I wouldn't care if the queue was 30minutes, but it's annoying if you're in the queue for over a hour and than end up in players not pressing commence, making it take another 20-50minutes.

I don't mind it, on balmung it's says 13 or 28 mins but both times using roulette after update it's been under 5.

As far as PVP goes. only time I ever found it slow is when gaurda or T4 lights bonus where up. also 2am- 11 AM MST

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Originally Posted by NoahArks

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Hello, I am having constant troubles to find you in player search or ingame. So when you are online please tell me or friend invite me so I can put you into the linkshell. :)

before the update queue times were fairly reasonable for Frontline PvP like less than 15 min

Gating it behind GCs would be fine if PVP ranks were universal.

I assume you are speaking of Wolves' Den, which is slightly dead and not the best route to level in PvP. That said, Frontlines will commence the instance regardless of player dropping or backing out. It's also the most popular feature for PvP at the moment.

I have never done pvp in this game.

Do people get on your case if you lose?

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Originally Posted by HeroSamson

I have never done pvp in this game.

Do people get on your case if you lose?

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People are used to losing, but if you just run around and dont care about your team, they will kick you.
PvP is very friendly to new players, just ask your party for instructions as the fight starts.