Retainer Level XVI Ventures

How do you get 420 gathering on your DoL retainers so they can do level XVI ventures? I could put forager's gear on them, but that's pretty expensive especially considering that they bring back so much junk. (and yes, they all ready have max melded AF gear plus the forager's hat and tool) Is there another way that I'm just not seeing?

Check Ariyala if you need to meld more to attain that number; if not then yes, foragers are required.

I went through this myself yesterday. It is pretty stupid (in my opinion)...

If you have a Botanist retainer with fully melded Botanist Gear, the Forager's mainhand, and Dodore jewelry/belt/etc; and everything is MAX melded for Gathering... You get exactly 419 Gathering.

419! Are you kidding me, SE? You are forcing me to put melded forager's gear (at least one piece) or a Supra on my RETAINER just to get the XVI Ventures? Nuts to that!

It makes sense to me that you should have to gear your retainer properly to be able to complete the highest level ventures.

Use rose gold accessories instead, non gathering types. Fisher does this since they dont use GP.

You can meld 5 gathering instead of 4. This will net you an extra 5 gathering.

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/Fisher

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Originally Posted by chrillix

It makes sense to me that you should have to gear your retainer properly to be able to complete the highest level ventures.

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Define "properly"? If we had to get our battle class retainers to ilvl 121+, would we then see people making a huge fuss over this? I am willing to bet 'yes', and simply put... that is essentially what this is (except for gathering classes). You have to get some of the absolute top gear and meld it out. Why can't SE just be consistent when dealing with battle class and gathering class requirements when dealing with retainers?

(I could ask why SE can't be consistent between gatherers and battlers as a whole... but that is an entirely different discussion)

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Originally Posted by Cherryblossoms

Use rose gold accessories instead, non gathering types. Fisher does this since they dont use GP.

You can meld 5 gathering instead of 4. This will net you an extra 5 gathering.

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/Fisher

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I completely forgot about this! I love you! Thank you for this.

Also if you are a fisher and have ironworks rod you can give one to your retainer and then buy another at the calamity salvager.

I'm having trouble getting my FSH retainer high enough (I don't have Ironworks or Lucis yet, and need my Supra to work towards them), but getting my BTN retainer up was easy without the supra main hand or the forager's offhand. I have the forager's hatchet on the retainer along with Botanist AF gear fully melded for gathering (with all guerdon Is), rose gold accessories +5 gathering in them, and the militia offhand max melded for gathering. That got me high enough for the new ventures. Still haven't gotten anything new from them yet though, same garbage as the XV and XIV ventures...

I got an Emperor Fish HQ from my Fisher XVI, which I never saw from the XV's. Still waiting to see anything new from the others.

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Originally Posted by aldoxzx

Also if you are a fisher and have ironworks rod you can give one to your retainer and then buy another at the calamity salvager.

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I wonder, can you do this with the Rauni and Mammon Supras as well? Would save a lot of headache to hit that gathering minimum.

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Originally Posted by Lito00

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I agree it's odd that there does seem to be a discrepancy between DoW/DoM and DoL's in terms of difficulty in attaining the rare reward status for a retainer. However I'd rather see the DoW/DoM's put to the same level of difficulty as the gatherer's. I would enjoy the challenge of that, and it would really make you appreciate when you hit that rare item status, rather than just slapping some easily attainable i90 gear onto a retainer and calling it a day.

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Originally Posted by Archadius

I wonder, can you do this with the Rauni and Mammon Supras as well? Would save a lot of headache to hit that gathering minimum.

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No. The Ironworks Rod is special because it is an achievement reward item from catching 106 different species of Big Fish. Turn-ins are never available at the Calamity Salvager, just quest and achievement rewards.

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

No. The Ironworks Rod is special because it is an achievement reward item from catching 106 different species of Big Fish. Turn-ins are never available at the Calamity Salvager, just quest and achievement rewards.

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Ah yes, achievement reward... Damn! Oh well lol

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Originally Posted by Archadius

Ah yes, achievement reward... Damn! Oh well lol

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On the "plus" side, you'll collect more than 99 extra BTN/MIN turn-in tokens while going for your Luscious tool, so it's just 3 MCDs and 10 FC3s from there to get a backup Supra. 1.2m (the current price of that on my server) is a lot, but it's still a great option if you're too lazy to fully meld gear and have the cash.

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Originally Posted by Lito00

I went through this myself yesterday. It is pretty stupid (in my opinion)...

If you have a Botanist retainer with fully melded Botanist Gear, the Forager's mainhand, and Dodore jewelry/belt/etc; and everything is MAX melded for Gathering... You get exactly 419 Gathering.

419! Are you kidding me, SE? You are forcing me to put melded forager's gear (at least one piece) or a Supra on my RETAINER just to get the XVI Ventures? Nuts to that!

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Clue: Retainers only use the gathering stat. iL 70 accessories can take GGM III for an extra 5 gathering over iL 55 gathering accessories.

Was anyone lucky with the new dyes? Or do you need to get your retainers ilvl100/ 420 gathering gear first?

edit: Just got 2 from my hunter retainer ilvl 90 still.