No, It's Too Soon! (Spoiler Alert)

After clearing Keeper of the Lake for the first time last night, I saw the post dungeon scene and saw something that I was expecting would be a possible part of the plot but I was expecting it to occur at the end of Patch 2.5, not when it has just started.

If you know what I am talking about, losing the power from Hydaelyn was something I expected to occur as the very last thing that would happen in the Realm Reborn storyline. It would have made more sense for it to happen as a natural transition from Realm Reborn into Heavensward because of course, the Realm Reborn saga will end with the introduction of Heavensward.

It just doesn't make sense to have no power as the Warrior of Light with so much storyline still left to cover.

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Originally Posted by Novaura

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You don't know what they have planned for the story yet. They did this for a reason, losing it at the end would suck, i mean how generic of a ending would that be?

Considering the Battle of Ishgard is in Part II, and the trailer also shows Iceheart disabling the barrier protecting Ishgard, this feels like it's building up to that incident. We may as well be the one thing that stopped the Dravanian Horde from completely wrecking Ishgard, thus setting the scene for the expansion.

Considering Heavensward will have at least 2 primal fights at launch, i suggest we're getting the power of the light back at some point.

Or else how would we resist when said primals will try to temper us ?

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Originally Posted by CUTS3R

Considering Heavensward will have at least 2 primal fights at launch, i suggest we're getting the power of the light back at some point.

Or else how would we resist when said primals will try to temper us ?

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I propose to you to contemplate the following: we are already protected by someone.

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Originally Posted by CUTS3R

Considering Heavensward will have at least 2 primal fights at launch, i suggest we're getting the power of the light back at some point.

Or else how would we resist when said primals will try to temper us ?

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We lost the power of the light which was given to us during the fight with ultima, we did not lose the echo which is a totally different ability.

Wait, did I miss something? The dragon used it's claw to seal the power of light inside the hero, to prevent it from leaving, no?

im my opinion some1 gave us his blessing n removed the light blessing... as they state he governs all things magic based so more or less we are still protected from the primals

From my understanding and as stated the player can't be tempered because of the Echo, the blessing was separate.

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Originally Posted by DasFelix

From my understanding and as stated the player can't be tempered because of the Echo, the blessing was separate.

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this, the blessing of light is to fight against the ascians

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Originally Posted by Hulan

I propose to you to contemplate the following: we are already protected by someone.

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But most of us were under the impression that it was the power of light actually making us immune to it. AKA, basically tempered by the Mothercrystal vs. evil Primal. Although the Echo being our resistence makes sense, too.

Also, I think Midgardsomr following us around to watch us instead will be a HUGE plot point. Minfillia mentions his job is, legendarily, to "guard the lake all magic flows," but is that exactly it or just Min's best theory?

Even if Miggy didn't do what he did, I figured that Hydaelyn would lose her power entirely eventually. We've basically been grossly abusing her power this entire time to slay Primals and other "impossible" foes, and the Ascians directly mentioned that "each victory came at great cost to her". It could have been possible for us to literally reduce her power to zero, which might outright kill her.

Miggy stopped us from continuing to sap her power further. It may be possible that he's actually saved her, and perhaps even taken her place as a source of being chosen via his ever watchful eye.

Besides, we kind of proved that we don't need the Blessing of Light to kick an Ascian's bum :)

Ifrit tried to temper us before we got his crystal and the patern on the ground right? I dont think its the blessing that protects us. Could be wrong though.

You're merely stripped of your blessing, not the echo, he forced you into a pact with him (Since Haedelyn can no longer be your strength)

Here is my take on the situation as it stands thus far. I do not believe Midgardsormr, out of blind rage, severed or bound our link to Hydaelyn. There had to be a more outstanding reason as he said he remembered the covenant. Also it is doubtful he'd be following us around if he wasn't watching over us in some manner. Possibly Hydaelyn is too weak to protect us anymore? Or it may be that we needed the blessing out of the way in order to deal with the Ascians as a whole, as it prevented some from even taking form in Eorzea at all. I do not think we have lost the echo. The reasoning behind this is that the echo not only allows us to see memories and past events but allows communication with other beings outside of our realm of understanding (see Midgardsormr and Ascians). Notice how after Midgardsormr took, sealed, etc the Blessing we were still able to understand him? Or for that matter the Ascian. Had we lost the echo we'd have been like Moenyna (if I spelled that properly. I have trouble with Roe names lol) and unable to make sense of what the guy was saying.

Midgardsormr also makes a point. Will you be a pawn or will you do something by your own hands? It may very well be that Hydaelyn has turned us loose thinking we are good on our own. At this point it is conjecture, simply theory craft to be honest.

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Originally Posted by Seiryuukishi

Midgardsormr also makes a point. Will you be a pawn or will you do something by your own hands? It may very well be that Hydaelyn has turned us loose thinking we are good on our own. At this point it is conjecture, simply theory craft to be honest.

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Or testing us.... To see if we are ready for what is to come.

Keep in mind that the Holy Sea of Ishgard is under Ascian control. Perhaps Miggy is calling the dragons to fight Ishgard because of this? We could be looking at a three way war of Ishgard with Dragons Vs. Asican influenced templars Vs. a resistance movement trying to do the right thing probably led by our overly friendly friend at House Fortempts (forgive misspellings)

My understanding is he has a pact with Hydaelyn as a protector, he senses that Hydaelyn has become weak due to numerous attempts at assisting us with the Ascian threat. He breaks our "blessing" to stop Hydaelyn from "bleeding out" more energy and assumes the role as the "blessing" to help us all the while keeping an eye on us and the events unfolding.

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Originally Posted by Black_Wing

My understanding is he has a pact with Hydaelyn as a protector, he senses that Hydaelyn has become weak due to numerous attempts at assisting us with the Ascian threat. He breaks our "blessing" to stop Hydaelyn from "bleeding out" more energy and assumes the role as the "blessing" to help us all the while keeping an eye on us and the events unfolding.

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hit the nail on the head :P doesnt he apologise for breaking hydaelyns contract more or less??

and as some1 mentioned i think the dragons are the good guys in this coming war xD

To echo (heh) what other's said, I think Midgy took over watching over us since Hydaelyn has grown so weak. I think we still have the Echo, and what got stripped was Hydaelyn's direct protection, which really wasn't doing much good, seeing she's so weak now, that she can't even talk to us anymore.

Thing is, while Hydaelyn is a kind and doting mother, Midgy is the crotchety grandpa that expects us to get things done on our own, though he might deign to offer some advice from time to time. Whether or not he'll actually step up if we get into a situation that is way over our abilities and would -absolutely- require the powers of an elder power like him to deal with remains to be seen.

Heh, having a covenant with a dragon, and with the King of the Wyrms, at that, is going to be interesting heading into the expansion. Certainly will be awkward if any of the Ishgardians find out.

Do you guys think the dragon mount we get in Heavensward could be Midgardsormr? I know he's a different colour, and there's the obvious discrepancy in size, but its possible he may grow that much between now and the expansion.

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Originally Posted by beowulf81

Do you guys think the dragon mount we get in Heavensward could be Midgardsormr? I know he's a different colour, and there's the obvious discrepancy in size, but its possible he may grow that much between now and the expansion.

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The colour is almost the same between the minion and the mount, so I have no doubt that this is the case. They are too similar for it not to be like that. Both are green with red feet, and have almost exactly the same headwings.

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Originally Posted by beowulf81

Do you guys think the dragon mount we get in Heavensward could be Midgardsormr? I know he's a different colour, and there's the obvious discrepancy in size, but its possible he may grow that much between now and the expansion.

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i thought that the moment keeper of the lake cutscenes finished n we got what we got lol

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Originally Posted by Spawnie

i thought that the moment keeper of the lake cutscenes finished n we got what we got lol

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That would make a lot of sense considering they said that the dragon mount would be a big deal when we found out its name .