Firstly, why is there even a level limit to begin with? I could understand limiting forum activity for trial account users, but if you've paid for the game license, that should entitle you to a little basic freedom of speech.
Secondly, I've only been able to find 1 bit of info suggesting that if I'm level 30 that I should be able to make a few posts per day, yet this new player section seems to be the only place that I can create a new thread. I have made sure to set my lvl 30 char as my main char in the profile and that didn't help.
A forum cap on level limit is a pretty crumby way to treat new players to the game and make them feel less valuable than the rest of the community. Bad job SE.
level 30 and can't post in forums
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01-20-2015, 08:54 PMAtlasphalanxlevel 30 and can't post in forums
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01-20-2015, 09:36 PMSlapped_Silly
I completely agree with you.. I am only Lvl 19/20 and it pains me that I can't post my cafting questions in the right forum sections.. that I need to comment on other people threads to be heard in those sections.. it's very silly..
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01-20-2015, 10:08 PMthralgaf
I am 15/36 and can't post new threads. It's really pissing me off.
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01-21-2015, 01:00 AMSlapped_Silly
Anyone know what the requirement is?
If it's Lvl 50 that just redicilous! -
01-21-2015, 01:07 AMEye_Gore
I think this is the latest update about forum posts:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-%28Aug.-22%29 -
01-21-2015, 01:07 AMSquintinahttp://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-%28Aug.-22%29Quote:
Originally Posted by Slapped_Silly
Keep in mind sometimes the forums/lodestone take a while to update levels. I once replied to a thread where a lvl28 person was still "level 14" at the time of his posting, then it updated just after. Also keep in mind the character/class whose level you wish to use should be equipped in Edit Settings-> Edit Character. I believe Ninja is still not available. -
01-21-2015, 02:29 AMSlapped_Silly
I guess lucky for me I like to spam the new player section..
sometimes I even get a good answer ;) -
01-21-2015, 06:33 AMOgulbukGiven the nature of this game, I think we are lucky you don't have to do a 3 hour long multi-fetch quest to unlock forum posting "mechanics."Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlasphalanx
As much as I agree that it is annoying and frustrating, please keep in mind it has nothing to do with "freedom of speech." That term is only about governments shutting people up, freedom of speech has nothing to do with private entities limiting their private communication channels.Quote:
I could understand limiting forum activity for trial account users, but if you've paid for the game license, that should entitle you to a little basic freedom of speech.
But yea, you still get a little basic freedom to post in "Technical Support," "Bug Reports," "New Player Help" and "Community Events" boards.
As much as I hate this system, I kind of can see the point of it. Too many people tend to engage on meaningless vitriol because posting is free and all they waste is their time. Setting a limit actually seems to make people hold back a bit, either because they rather not waste their post count on meaningless flame fests, or because they simply ran out of posts in one. Only thing I would change is increase how many posts lower level players can write. -
01-21-2015, 06:47 AMNiwashi
I can see some logic in setting limits on how many posts people can make, but I don't see the logic in tying that to character level. Most of the drivel and vitriol both come from bored long-term players, not new players.
And it's frustrating how often we see new players post here and get redirected, asked to post on the more relevant forum instead, when those of us familiar with the forums know they can't, because of the stupid posting restrictions. This seems to come up especially often when new players are looking for FCs. They always seem to get told to post in their server's forum, (which of course would be the appropriate place, if only it were available to the people who most need it). -
01-22-2015, 04:36 AMXysticIt has to due with the fact that gold sellers will be able to spam their stuff on the forums. RMTs do not generally use their lvl 50 characters or accounts to spam in game or on forums as they are trying to keep a low profile on these accounts. In the TOS, if I'm not mistaken, you can actually be banned in game as well based on the severity of your forum violation. By not allowing low levels to post they prevent spam or advertising accounts from filling up the forums as seen in other MMOs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niwashi
Although they can not post, they can still access material, such as guides and tutorials or things they may be interested in, posted by other players. A lot of times, these questions can be answered in such guides or posts or be found there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niwashi
They can scout their server forums as most actively recruiting FC's will post their recruitment needs. You also do not need to reply to most of these recruitment threads directly, as many of these threads tell you exactly who to PM for more information or invitation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niwashi
In the end, if the new player still cannot find the answer to his or her question, that is what the new player forums is for. Just ask and the community usually tries their best to help. -
01-22-2015, 09:49 AMEnkidohIt actually wasn't added because of RMT, as the forum never had these restrictions originally when version 1.0 was running (and the 1.0 forum never had any RMT advertising their ill-gotten gains from what I was aware). These restrictions in fact were first added to the ARR Beta forum, as there was a massive influx of new testers between Phases 2 and 3, sadly it resulted in a sudden increase in the amount of trolling and flaming going on, both from new testers and Legacy members and Alpha/early Beta phase testers. It became such a sordid affair that SE hurriedly introduced posting restrictions in an attempt to bring some order to the chaos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xystic
No doubt the Beta forum incident spooked SE and thus they decided in order to head off any possible repeat of such nonsense when the game went live, they added similar restrictions to the official FFXIV forum, which up to that stage, was for version 1.0 only (and in fact was only accessible if you had a 1.0 account).
Yes, some of these restrictions can be annoying, but they're not to hard to deal with (the 1000 character restriction is easily worked around by simply going back and editing your post, like I just did ;)). -
01-26-2015, 11:47 AMAtlasphalanxThis made me lol. It's funny because it's true. The questing in this game is a bit over the top, which wouldn't be a problem if it was avoidable, but you simply MUST do the story line to be able to play the game. Not a fan of that, quests should be optional, in the same way that pvp, dungeons, grinding, or crafting is optional.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ogulbuk
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01-27-2015, 12:37 AMXysticWe need to keep in mind that the further we go back in time the smaller the presence of RMTs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enkidoh
Character lvl restrictions do not impede an individual from flaming or trolling or arguing. Even with the current level restrictions we still see individuals coming to the forums to troll and flame. Character level restrictions keep low level accounts from spamming the forums. Most RMT spamming bots are disposable as they eventually get reported and since they are disposable you might as well advertise on the forums as well. We saw this on D3 early on in its Paypal period. There is nothing wrong with killing 2 birds with 1 stone if the system allows it. Although 1.0 may not have used such restrictions, at the current time, most MMOs are also adopting the character lvl or subscription base requirement for the forums as RMTs continue to find new ways to advertise their goods.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enkidoh
Every MMO forum to date has some sort of drama as long as people can post at some time or another.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enkidoh