Preliminary Patch Note Speculation

-New main hand tool, obtained by making x amount of y item.
The rocks and logs used to get miner/botanist supras can now be HQ, and there is one single new fish in the game. These are very likely used to get new DoL main hands, and SE has so far matched DoL and DoH main hands, and there is mention of Talan selling more crap.

-Something new from the top tier ixali quests
They mentioned additional rewards from the 7 quests, guessing it will be crystals or soldiery/poetics.

-Desynth max level 110, combined 350, other skills won't go down unless you are at 350 combined
Very nice

Anyone see anything I missed?

Those were the main ones. Nice thoughts Stouter. :)

I'm glad they fixed Desynth. I also really like that New Recipes *won't* require yet another Master Recipe Book (Thank You!). It just felt like we were being strung along (trickling in a couple recipes here or there after massive grinding / RNG turn-ins in the last patch).

New recipes have been added to master recipe books.
Players can acquire master recipe books from the NPC Talan in Mor Dhona at Revenant's Toll (X:22 Y:6) after completing the quest "Just Tooling Around."
* In the event you have already acquired a master recipe book, your crafting log will be updated with the new recipes automatically.

New Achievement,
Tool Time for the Hand: Obtain a Disciple of the Hand Lucis tool.

So yes, look like a new mainhand from Talan... Guy's been holding out on us.

They kept very tight lipped on new gear/ craftable items. My guess is the new DoH main will be a decent upgrade to help with 4 star crafting but wouldn't be a make or break for those of us that can hq 4 star now. It will help more ppl into 4 star given the number of over melds needed. Would have liked to know more like the 2.4 patch notes though there is enough there to put a good guess into items to up stock over the weekend for the patch. My Guess with the DoL main is it will be a mix of collecting hq items and some other turn in as they did with the i75 main in 2.3.

something new from ixali for crafting, akin to sealant but might cost more? *shutter* coupled with new mats from top tier nodes. Putting all my gil in getting gsm to 451 and pray that the rings comes and are craftable!

I speculate that whoever threw out the preliminary notes must have been really tired, rushed, or both. Typos here and there and the gear pictures are confusing me. Also, some text feels like a copy paste, like how they mention tomestones of philosophy under "Rewards" which is also under the PvP notes for Borderlands? Frontlines? It seems messy to me.

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Originally Posted by Pterois

something new from ixali for crafting, akin to sealant but might cost more? *shutter* coupled with new mats from top tier nodes. Putting all my gil in getting gsm to 451 and pray that the rings comes and are craftable!

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There are 3 other types of ixali knots listed on the lodestone, with no means of getting them.

Those knots are obsolete items from 1.0. You'll see the other beast tribes also have such items that re no longer obtainable.

I reckon the new Ixali quests will give a separate token of sorts...or more oaknots, lowering the gap between artisian's/forager's and normal AF gear.

Desynth being pushed to 110 means more desynthables, ST/iLvl 100 gear probably.

I'm hoping with the raised desynth cap it means we will be seeing some new items being obtained via desynthesis. Otherwise it will be somewhat pointless to rush to 110.

I speculate that the new body piece is going to be an item from Talan, similar to the Artisan Specs. It may be that the new "bauble" will be a 4-star item. The NQs are for the new tool The HQs for the body piece.

I also think they are sneaking in i110 jewelry, but aren't spilling those beans yet to avoid a pre-patch materia rush.

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Originally Posted by Espritduo

Those knots are obsolete items from 1.0. You'll see the other beast tribes also have such items that re no longer obtainable.

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See them on the MB all the time and figured this-thanks for the confirmation!

I like the added desynth points. means we can finally have 3 at max and not worry about losing points in others. hopefully st gear is not desynthable as its already a pretty bad greed fest.

those probable new gatherer tools are gonna be relatively easy to get if your already max geared. but getting hq might take food if you didn't upgrade your gear to the newer artisan and max meld it. so I will probs have to meld it now since before i didnt need the points from the melds to gather anything. just incase I needed very certain melds.

as for crafters god forbid another supra grind but chances are that's exactly what we are getting. and if its something that's needed from beast tribe ie ixal then S.E should think again and put it in all beast tribes so we can actually do others should we wish too.


materia prices who cares.. that stuff is a yoyo anyways. and already priced beyond a lot of people. but if we do see new crafter gear that we craft then its gonna need melds so good luck to all the aspiring crafters out there who need the materia if that happens...

a note on ixal quest get them done the day before but don't turn them in as you'll get the bonus rewards for waiting and the next days will still be available. double bonus day 1 that way.

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Originally Posted by chidarake

I like the added desynth points. means we can finally have 3 at max and not worry about losing points in others. hopefully st gear is not desynthable as its already a pretty bad greed fest.

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FYI ST gear is neither desynthable nor convertible, so you can only wear it or glamour it. It really burns my butt when people take the belts. I'm past that hump but it's like 'WHY?' Idjits. (and no I doubt it will become desynthable when the patch comes out because it is so readily available and ST runs actually take less time than CT1 now with the huge influx of newbies [on my server at least]) 4 gear drops+2 oils+2 sands for item upgrades that are all free-roll? I don't think that will happen. But I've been wrong before... ;)

No one has mentioned the Master Crafting Tomes, I hope these allow you to get access to the artisan gear, As a casual player I dont have lots of gil enough to meld and get by but not enough to buy up all the gear needed. I wonder what the requirements for the Lucis tools are, as I am still working towards Supra (Only just started as previous focus was gearing SMN and Gathering Jobs)

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Originally Posted by JaynanTesla

No one has mentioned the Master Crafting Tomes

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A tome is a book, so this is probably talking about master crafting books.

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Originally Posted by chidarake

a note on ixal quest get them done the day before but don't turn them in as you'll get the bonus rewards for waiting and the next days will still be available. double bonus day 1 that way.

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Been planning on this, especially since I only have about 2 hours from the time I get home til server down time day before.

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Originally Posted by LinjiZlykot

FYI ST gear is neither desynthable nor convertible, so you can only wear it or glamour it.

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I did not say st gear was desynthable I said I hope it doesn't become so in patch,. which was in response to a post afew before me by sumimi,

so basically you took what I said out of context, partly my fault for not quoting admittedly, but still, st seriously you think I didn't know that info by now.??


that being said I agree with you about people greeding st gear when they don't need it is annoying. personally I only see st gear as glam now as getting 110 gear from weathered and sands is so easy now.

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Originally Posted by chidarake

I did not say st gear was desynthable I said I hope it doesn't become so in patch,. which was in response to a post afew before me by sumimi,

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Then what do you want to be desynthesizable to reach rank110? I find it hard to believe that we will be stuck with ilvl90 gear, what's the point of raising the cap?
Do you want to stick with Krimu/Arachne/Wootz? Unless they increase the drop, I will not accept that (My suggestion would be every player would get guaranteed drop just like ShivaEX).
I don't like scob to be desynthesizable, because at this point, unless you're in a group that's already in fcob, scob is not farmable.

If SCoB gear was dsynthesizable then that would mean the max % we could reach is 50%....that's just disgusting and a huge time sink fishing out successful desynthesis attempts.

"Lucis" tool? Oh oh...

Lux, Luce, Lucem, Lucis... all Latin for "Light".

We're gonna have to equip the tool and then go farm Light as DoH now, aren't we? Heh heh he...

(Kidding. Or...?)

:)

My predictions:

1. Lucis tool will be the upgrade for Supra relic tools, rather than a separate tool like the Artisan ones. As Wadoka pointed out, "Lucis" is a Latin word. "Supra" is also a Latin word. Given the similarity and how they have done naming for the relic weapons, it makes more sense to me for Lucis to be part of the relic tool progression, rather than a separate thing like Artisan.

2. Artisan body piece will be unveiled, and will be craftable with 3 Ehcatl Sealants and 1 Mastercraft Demimateria. I predict they will mirror what the Forager set is already doing with the body piece, since everything else between the two sets is comparable.

3. The "additional rewards" being added to some of the Ixal quests will be more Oaknots. Rather than revamping the pricing structure (which would punish people for not banking their Oaknots in anticipation of the patch), they will simply give more Oaknots going forward for the quests.

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Originally Posted by Wadoka

"Lucis" tool? Oh oh...

Lux, Luce, Lucem, Lucis... all Latin for "Light".

We're gonna have to equip the tool and then go farm Light as DoH now, aren't we? Heh heh he...

(Kidding. Or...?)

:)

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or 2000x crafts HQ ;_;

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Originally Posted by Sounders

Then what do you want to be desynthesizable to reach rank110? I find it hard to believe that we will be stuck with ilvl90 gear, what's the point of raising the cap?
Do you want to stick with Krimu/Arachne/Wootz? Unless they increase the drop, I will not accept that (My suggestion would be every player would get guaranteed drop just like ShivaEX).
I don't like scob to be desynthesizable, because at this point, unless you're in a group that's already in fcob, scob is not farmable.

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well 70% chance is pretty low for i90 so this will allow us to get higher % which means more mats available which means cheaper priced gear for the masses to use. and plus i90 can easily get us to 110 desynth skill, it will just take awhile.

plus im not saying st wont become desynthable im just saying its not a fair idea when you compare the under-geared players trying to get gear when the i90 is much harder to get than the i100 gear from st.
even if scob gear becomes desynthable that would probs mean that weathered / unweathered gear will be as well. both farmable easy enough. SE have options if they are deciding to make more gear desynthable.

I just think st should be left alone so its not more of a greedy mans dungeon.. you know cut the low geared players a break for once

(which by the way does not include me incase you were thinking it)

ST is ilvl100 gear, you can buy stuff the same level with soldiery tomes (which will have a big boost this patch)

I expect them to raise the desynth cap by 10 each major patch going forward, as well as top level of gear we can desynth. That keeps the top level dungeon desynth gear at 70% max.

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Originally Posted by giantslayer

1. Lucis tool will be the upgrade for Supra relic tools, rather than a separate tool like the Artisan ones. As Wadoka pointed out, "Lucis" is a Latin word. "Supra" is also a Latin word. Given the similarity and how they have done naming for the relic weapons, it makes more sense to me for Lucis to be part of the relic tool progression, rather than a separate thing like Artisan.

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have you forgotten the luminary already ? Their name already has the meaning of "Lucis"

That's what it is, you need the luminary tool to upgrade to the new tools.

so.....
no Artisan body? >_>
we are still stuck with a nice AF body and really awful artisan gear? ;_____;

The patch notes are preliminary, they will release the full notes in 10 hours or so. I expect to see an artisan body (or JSE body pieces from the turn in tokens for lucis tools) along with 110 accessories, even though neither was mentioned.

Just guessing, but "master crafting tomes" does not look as an involuntary mistake instead of master crafting books. Might it be there will be some tomes like the tomestones? But it says tomes and not tomestones, who knows?

About the body piece, it might be new body gear for each job will come instead of one for all. I don't think likely the best gear will be an all-class full set. Second best, maybe.

I think probably the ehcatl sealants will be easier to obtain, they are very expensive. But it does not say more oaknots will be given, just that additional rewards will be given. More oaknots would be a way to make them cheaper. Giving an ehcatl for an Ixal quest would be maybe too much. A new token? We'll soon see.

I hope the Lucis weapons won't be a huge grind but think they will probably be.

They said the requirements for 4 star books would not be made easier, but that new recipes would be of neither top nor intermediate level.

The changes about desynth look very nice, you can have 3 desynth classes maxed with no problem, and won't lose desynth if you are not yet capped.