The real Enkidu

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I posted this back on my tumblr as well as on my FB but forgot all about here. Will see if I am wrong when patch 2.5 hits but I'm for a certain this is the real Enkidu. I recognized the mob design and kept scratching my head "where have I seen this before?" and then it dawned on me. In FF5 there were monsters called Abductors that looked like this creature. However one of the green ones fought beside Gilgamesh and was named Enkidu. So now it makes even more sense that this is the real Enkidu. Because recalling back to when you first meet Gilgamesh a "demon bird" stole his lance when he set it down. He also said that he traveled with Enkidu but he couldn't find him so he found a chicken and painted it green and called it Enkidu. It's quite obvious now that it's all in the light but I know some would expect the real Enkidu to be a dog like in FFXII but they took Gilgamesh from his original FF5 appearance so it's only fitting they give him the original Enkidu as well.

That's basically what tells the sneak peak :

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So it was that Gilgamesh turned to the heavens, pleading to be reunited with a long-lost companion. Be it by fortune or fate, his prayers were heard, and the stage for the final confrontation is set. To the victor goes the Treaty-Blade!

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Yeah well there is 'real' Enkidu and there is real Enkidu. The actual real real Enkidu was a human(oid) figure who was serving Gilgamesh back when he was a king in the backstory of Type-0. He is long dead by the time Gilgamesh is encountered there. Sometimes Enkidu is absent, sometimes he looks like a dog, sometimes a bird monster and sometimes he is implied to be a humanoid(he wrote a letter in FF9). Obviously Gilgamesh finds something green in every world the rift takes him and names it Enkidu. He might be especially attached to these demon birds as the first replacement Enkidu was one as well (If we accept the likely route of Type-0, XI, V).

Never played Type-0 but... XI? I don't recall him being there >.>

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Originally Posted by Urthdigger

Never played Type-0 but... XI? I don't recall him being there >.>

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Neither were truly in FFXI, but their names were 'borrowed' in other ways - Gilgamesh was a grizzled old hume NPC in Norg connected to the Rise of the Zilart expansion pack and unlocking the SAM Job - he pretty much had zero connection to the 'real' Gilgamesh (in fact, the only similarity was the fact he was a SAM and used great katanas). Enkidu on the other hand, was a 'doll' NM (a type of ancient robot), that appeared in the Tu'lia zone (there was also a set of equipment called 'Enkidu's' equipment (it was a harness set that only DNCs, MNKs and THF could equip).

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Yeah well there is 'real' Enkidu and there is real Enkidu. The actual real real Enkidu was a human(oid) figure who was serving Gilgamesh back when he was a king in the backstory of Type-0. He is long dead by the time Gilgamesh is encountered there. Sometimes Enkidu is absent, sometimes he looks like a dog, sometimes a bird monster and sometimes he is implied to be a humanoid(he wrote a letter in FF9). Obviously Gilgamesh finds something green in every world the rift takes him and names it Enkidu. He might be especially attached to these demon birds as the first replacement Enkidu was one as well (If we accept the likely route of Type-0, XI, V).

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I wouldn't count what is stated in a spin off title as gospel though - Gilgamesh and Enkidu first appeared in FFV and in fact all their real appearances in other FF games since directly reference back to that - from their boss fights and BGM to Gilgamesh's multiple arms all wielding different swords, to getting the Genji gear and the Masamune katana from him, and Enkidu as Gil's sidekick/companion. And even Gilgamesh's travelling of the Void. All this directly references their original FFV appearance. Anything stated in Type O would just be fanservice referencing back to FFV itself really.

Well dunno, under the armor in Type-0, he looked pretty much like he did in XI, when he got the warpaint is anyone's guess. i'm still sticking to this version.

A demon bird stole his lance and it was also what scared that girl carrying that old vase. However, why would Enkidu seal Gilgamesh's lance if they're friends? I do recall Gilgamesh saying that he hasn't seen him in many moons so he tamed a chicken and painted it green because he was lonely/bored.

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Originally Posted by Kotemon

A demon bird stole his lance and it was also what scared that girl carrying that old vase. However, why would Enkidu seal Gilgamesh's lance if they're friends? I do recall Gilgamesh saying that he hasn't seen him in many moons so he tamed a chicken and painted it green because he was lonely/bored.

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Bingo. Answer: He isn't Enkidu, just a monster looking like the first replacement Enkidu he had in V. Obviously he didn't have an Enkidu since he arrived(or even before that if he came directly from 8 or 13-2) so he went with the green chicken. Makes me wonder if this Enkidu will even help him at all.

I was pretty convinced that this is the FFXIV interpretation of Adrammelech. He has the color scheme and the goat ears.

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Er... not really it's the demon Enkidu from FFV
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Err no he is

a primal summoned by Gilgamesh with three crates of fire crystal

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Err no he is

a primal summoned by Gilgamesh with three crates of fire crystal

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Whilst it's true that's how he appears...

I'm not too sure if he's actually a Primal, or is more like King Moggle Mog who is just summoned by really wishing him into existence. I'm more inclined to think the latter.

I have like 2,000 Water Clusters in my inventory.

I keep wishing for Tom Hiddleston, but he doesn't appear. I call hax on summoning method

Good King Moggle Mog is a primal by the definition Alphinaud gives us, which is a being summoned through prayers of the desperate and with great quantities of aether. The moogles had a lot of crystals, and they prayed really hard, so he's a primal. How he's different is a good question, though.

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Originally Posted by Magnesium02

I have like 2,000 Water Clusters in my inventory.

I keep wishing for Tom Hiddleston, but he doesn't appear. I call hax on summoning method

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Pray, not wish

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Originally Posted by WyrahFhurrst

Good King Moggle Mog is a primal by the definition Alphinaud gives us, which is a being summoned through prayers of the desperate and with great quantities of aether. The moogles had a lot of crystals, and they prayed really hard, so he's a primal. How he's different is a good question, though.

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Pretty much this. We used to be able to draw a line between primal and not-primal, but since that scene where they talk about Good King Moggle Mog XIIth (may his glorious name strike fear and respect into pom-poms Hydaelyn over), we now have a more open-ended definition of primal vs not-primal. More like 'aetheric beings,' which is kind of what Enkidu is as well.

Perhaps the distinction we need to make from that is elemental and non-elemental primals? I only suggest it because the only primals we've seen attempt to temper anyone (ourselves included) have been elemental primals. I'm not certain how Bahamut's power to control others falls into this, though. Perhaps he doesn't necessarily temper, but mind control as a dragon does.

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Originally Posted by WyrahFhurrst

Perhaps the distinction we need to make from that is elemental and non-elemental primals? I only suggest it because the only primals we've seen attempt to temper anyone (ourselves included) have been elemental primals. I'm not certain how Bahamut's power to control others falls into this, though. Perhaps he doesn't necessarily temper, but mind control as a dragon does.

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Bahamut Tempered T9 and T12 bosses, all primals can temper, maybe the weakest ones can't because they need some strength to gain control over someone but there isn't any distinction to make between the primals, it's always the same, a revered soul takes form through ether, being a being of pure energy and will it's obviously easy for them to mind control physical beings.