Lazy Mage Gear

I'm starting to really tire of this trend where Casters have the same gear healers do just Pallet swapped.

They did it in Crystal Tower, they did it in Sycrus Tower, and now they are doing it in the World of Darkness.

http://i.imgur.com/J9rcIjn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ss4KaGm.jpg

A different color and different feather in the hat don't make it a different set. I'm getting really tired of looking like a corrupted healer or something. More originality please. I don't appreciate the devs basically using the dying system to be lazy.

Ain't no dev got time for that, gotta make more unique melee dps sets instead.

I agree, and it seems it's going to be that way for Monk and Ninja as well, look at the 2 images close, they're also the same but recolors.

Yeah, it would be nice if the two set LOOKED differant from each other, but its almost always done this way. Remember CT sets the White Mage and Black Mage set were just recolored. Come on SE!!

Mage gear has always been lazy or boring. The only two sets which looked good were the poetics & high allagan ones. At least for healer that is.

At Least you're a different color we tanks share the same set :/

I don't get always getting witch hats. Why not a nice cowl or something?

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Originally Posted by Heartlly

At Least you're a different color we tanks share the same set :/

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Well this, as a tank, I can understand. The issue is that they're not holding up to the classes.

Tank gets their own, Heavy DPS gets their own, Light DPS gets their own, Ranged DPS gets their own... Healer and Mage deserve, their OWN, EACH.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs43/f/20...Only_Jamow.jpg

Even the roots of FF did it right!

see the set has a unique look being something whitemages and scholars don't tend to be seen wearing, then black mages looksllike AF gear with a fuzzy hat o3o;

And while we're at it, make Summoner sets apart from Black Mage ones! (Spell Speed, I'm looking at you!)

I like that they didn't even change the color of the shoes.

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Originally Posted by MrLeonheart

I like that they didn't even change the color of the shoes.

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Same for gloves :P

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Originally Posted by Ecks007

And while we're at it, make Summoner sets apart from Black Mage ones! (Spell Speed, I'm looking at you!)

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Oh well I have complete different looking SCH/WHM in BiS and if i would care for a BLM BiS it also would be different from SMN there hasnt to be complete new sets (same for tanks it all depends on your personal stat preferences) :/

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

I'm starting to really tire of this trend where Casters have the same gear healers do just Pallet swapped.

They did it in Crystal Tower, they did it in Sycrus Tower, and now they are doing it in the World of Darkness.

http://i.imgur.com/J9rcIjn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ss4KaGm.jpg

A different color and different feather in the hat don't make it a different set. I'm getting really tired of looking like a corrupted healer or something. More originality please. I don't appreciate the devs basically using the dying system to be lazy.

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well, there goes my hope.

It just looks like a thinner version of the BLM af.

Seriously, why do their robes have to be off-shoots of another. We need so god damn variety with out robes, everyone one else besides casters has like 500 choices of something cool to wear while us casters has probably 10 or a little unique robes.

Optimistic answer: All the gear desingers are working on Heavensward so these were created by the janitor.

Why are they still doing this? Didn't they see all the threads from ST about wanting different stuff instead of recolors and different gear for genders?

Its like they dont even read the forums :(

The recycle syndrome is real. People complained about this since launch.

It really bugs me they are this lazy with gear. This isn't just for mages. It happens for dps and tank jobs too where a mnk would have the same model for feet as a bard for example. Two different roles even. The list goes on and on. Another example is that DRK body, some reskin of Stone Vigil hm tank gear. A bit disappointing.

I hope 3.0 will give more feel to jobs gear wise.

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Originally Posted by Meier

Why are they still doing this? Didn't they see all the threads from ST about wanting different stuff instead of recolors and different gear for genders?

Its like they dont even read the forums :(

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Because they don't have time for this ?

I'm more disappointed that Bard get the best looking set ye again. I really should get mine to 50.

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Originally Posted by Delta041

I'm more disappointed that Bard get the best looking set ye again. I really should get mine to 50.

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Wah? Monk set look best! Bard set look bland as f@#%(except the hat). i110 kirimu set look so much better for bard.

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Originally Posted by Meier

Why are they still doing this? Didn't they see all the threads from ST about wanting different stuff instead of recolors and different gear for genders?

Its like they dont even read the forums :(

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It would be a ton more work for virtually no gain. It would make a few people happy but most wouldn't notice. Several of my friends had never noticed any palette swaps in this game, though obviously they weren't looking for them.

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Originally Posted by Meier

Why are they still doing this? Didn't they see all the threads from ST about wanting different stuff instead of recolors and different gear for genders?

Its like they dont even read the forums :(

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I believe they touched on it during one of the fanfests. It's a resource issue.

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In creating items, the first step is to know the schedule of the version updates. Once the road map for content implementation is set, he checks whether the content requires item rewards as part of the plan for implementation. Then, the practicality of the cost for designers to create the models for the new armor and weapons needs to be determined to decide how items are implemented into content. For example, the hard Ifrit battle has weapons, but the Binding Coil of Bahamut has full outfits of gear.

“While ideally there would be unique graphics for all content, since there isn’t infinite funding for the designers, our focus is to add new graphics for end-game content as much as possible. You can see the cost trade-off, for example, when black mages and white mages have armor that is the same model with color swaps.”

On the game design side, it’s desirable to optimize the number of models added in a single patch to limit the amount of work to be done, so in some cases they look to see if items can be recycled from other titles. That said, in comparison with the original FFXIV, there have already been three to four times more new items created.

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Originally Posted by Ecks007

And while we're at it, make Summoner sets apart from Black Mage ones! (Spell Speed, I'm looking at you!)

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YES....can we not have Spell speed on SMN gear please. This patch was worthless for Smn players. Give Blm and Smn their on gear sets please.

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Originally Posted by FranSeara

YES....can we not have Spell speed on SMN gear please. This patch was worthless for Smn players. Give Blm and Smn their on gear sets please.

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It would be better to make spell speed usefull for the pet and the DoTs imo SMN seems to need some improvement, although it's just secondary stats...

Sorry, Having Spell speed on Smn gear means that you have wasted that stat. That 44 points of spell speed could be used in crit, Det. Acc. Hell...even pie would be better. I think its one of the main reasons that Smns have been having problems in FCOB and are falling behind all the DPS classes is because of all the spell speed wasted on Smn gear. You can argue all you want but making Real sets for Smn and Blm and would fix a few of the problems. Myth sets part 2 please!!

I actually like the way the Healer gear looks in this. I'm not really a fan of that BLM gear though.

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Originally Posted by Vaer

I believe they touched on it during one of the fanfests. It's a resource issue.



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All that answer told me was "we like melees better, so we'll make most of their gear different."

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

All that answer told me was "we like melees better, so we'll make most of their gear different."

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This apparently is the truth of the matter, when you look at the ratio of DoW classes to DoM classes. Not only do mages get less options to play as, we have to use the same damn gear as every other mage.

This is bullshit.

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Originally Posted by lololink

Because they don't have time for this ?

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They did it for PvP but they can't be half-assed to do it for major raid/instances? It's not like these are 4 man dungeons or tome gear or anything, Coil/24 man is like once every MAJOR patch cycle and they can't devote the time/energy to make unique models for those? Please. Caster/Healer should have their own - Tanks/Light DPS sharing is acceptable. Different -ROLES- sharing is not.