Patch 2.16 made it so the tooltips always displayed static times, but contrary to popular belief, the pets are still affected. It doesn't amount to much, though...
Side by side Wind Blade test. It's a little difficult to see at full speed, but the cast bar for the spell speed Wind Blade finishes several frames faster; the recast time is also shorter.
http://youtu.be/HneAv7NrIiw
On spells with longer cooldowns you can actually see the effect on the tooltip's countdown.
http://i.imgur.com/PsFaasf.jpg
Ifrit-egi is unaffected by spell speed because it only has skills, but skill speed does affect it.
Spell Speed still affects pets
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01-12-2015, 05:44 AMShinryuReishikiSpell Speed still affects pets
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01-12-2015, 06:02 AMBrianmj
Their video is private. But if this is true, then gear swapping might become a thing for SMN. Ifrit would need Acc, Str,and Det and skill speed from Mnk/Drg gear. I can't imagine the pitifull amount of skill speed we get from their gear would make much of a noticeable change.
I can see the video now. This is it. These are the drones we have been looking for! This is our buff! Nice find. Did they stealth buff us or was this always there? -
01-12-2015, 06:40 AMJudge_Xero
Skill Speed.....effects Ifrit?
Thank you SE. Now please add skill speed to SMN gear. -
01-12-2015, 07:38 AMBigcat9715
Does your pet have to have the spell speed buff on them or just the summoner?
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01-12-2015, 08:58 AMOssom
Tried to count the # of attacks, Seems like the one with 598 SS got 1 more attack over the one with 3XX SS over a course of 2 minutes. Is that really viable for the amount of crappy spell speed you gain? Not only that but I think slower pet was consistently doing 30 more dmg or so. Which means every 10 attacks of the slower one = 11 attacks of the faster one or so. When the one slower one hits for like 40 attacks and the faster one hits for 41, the slower pet does more damage.
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01-12-2015, 09:09 AMArdan
If I recall, STR does absolutely nothing for Titan/Ifrit. Their damage output is calculated from INT, along with DET and CRIT. Judging from the video, even if Spell Speed does affect Garuda it wouldn't matter because the difference is so minimal. You seem to lose damage from stacking Spell Speed over the more weighted stats. A nice find, but the end result is the same: Spell Speed sucks.
If you're thinking of using one set to summon and then switch to another for your own damage it won't work. The pet's stats are recalculated every time Rouse, Spur or Enkindle is used. -
01-12-2015, 09:13 AMShinryuReishikiIfrit's primary stat is Int; Str doesn't affect its damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianmj
No idea. SMN typically runs so little spell speed that it would only amount to an attack or two in a fight which isn't exactly going to be noticed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianmj
Pet is unaffected by buffs on the SMN.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigcat9715
Whether or not it's useful is beyond the point of the demonstration (I agree that it's not); it's simply showing there is an effect. Furthermore, damage in the video should be ignored; the gearing was based around creating a big difference in spell speed to observe the effect. All other stats were ignored in achieving this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ossom
Not saying anyone should consider it, but only Spur does this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ardan
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01-12-2015, 05:16 PMSunakoIf i have 2% ~ spell speed, do that mean my Garudas damage is increased 2% over ifrit? so if Garuda can do 130 dps normaly, after spell speed it is 132.6 dps? After all it does not make so huge difference between ifrit and garuda if you do not stack insane amount spell speed and who knows if ifrit get some kind of compensate from some other stat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judge_Xero
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01-12-2015, 10:32 PMJudge_Xero
Spell Speed would be a direct DPS increase for Garuda. But you would have to look at a Spell Speed chart to see the difference since 2% more Spell Speed doesn't = 2% faster attacks.
Because Garuda has a 3s GCD, each point of Spell Speed would be a greater increase compared to a 2.5 GCD. -
01-13-2015, 12:39 AMToranja
Thank you for the information, Shinryu.
And on the same note, I have to ask how the following hasn't crossed anyone's mind and they haven't tried to estimate the coefficients yet, barring the measurement difficulty:
The pets' attributes are multiples of the SMN's attributes. They are each multiplied by a coefficient differing from pet to pet, attribute to attribute. This allows for scaling as the game progresses.
By the way, this explains why different pets have different acc requirements. -
01-13-2015, 02:26 AMSanguisio
The problem is it doesnt help to much.
BTW guys the pets all use a INT>relative stat multiplier. The only time this is helpful is when you dont the acc cap for your pets and they miss alot, equipping accuracy gear can help with this once the pet is summoned just switch back to your normal gear. However if you change maps etc afaik the pet is reset to your current stats.
-Food and pots do not affect pets
-Ally buffs like fey cov do not affect the pets stats when summoned.
Another handy thing to note is ifrit has double the chance to crit so stacking crit really does favour him more than ruda. -
01-13-2015, 04:42 AMBigcat9715
Why not make it where any buff the summoner gets the pet gets it as well. Don't summoner and their pet have a spiritual connection or an aether..ual..flowly connection?
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01-13-2015, 05:42 AMLavieh
Awesome, Next week we get the i110 Accessories
Going to get the i110 STR ones and hope they have SKS on them. Meld Full INT and Det on them and then go to town with my ifrit and book smacks.
2.5 Lavieh's guide to Manmode SMN. -
01-13-2015, 09:54 AMJudge_XeroNah, i110 Vit melded with INT - and solo tank T13 with Titan EgiQuote:
Originally Posted by Lavieh
SMN MANMODE XTEME