Please Change Turn 2

Turn 2 is no longer relevant content. Can we please nerf or change Allagan Rot?
Helped my friend get the Allagan Caster set for glamour purposes, and spent a hell of a lot of time standing around in Turn 2.

The amount of people who do Allagan Rot in Duty Finder are extremely low. Only had one party the entire time we farmed it that didn't do the Enrage strategy.

We nerfed Blighted Bouquet to be Duty Finder friendly, not sure why the average Turn 2 run still has to take 15 minutes.

Why don't you just pass rot then. Or just shield the party and eat the explosion, it should be survivable now.

Please YoshiP, nerf this faceroll easy content so he can farm it faster! What were you thinking?

Just kill every node before fighting the boss

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Originally Posted by Ellatrix

Why don't you just pass rot then. Or just shield the party and eat the explosion, it should be survivable now.

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Duty Finder parties just won't. Forming a Party Finder to...farm Turn 2 for Glamour would take longer than just doing the Enrages.

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Originally Posted by Carstien

Please YoshiP, nerf this faceroll easy content so he can farm it faster! What were you thinking?

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I was thinking that faceroll content should be, you know, faceroll? Turn 2 Duty Finder is 15 minutes because people flat out refuse to pass rot. If Enrage wasn't possible, might be better off.

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Originally Posted by Pots_Talos

Just kill every node before fighting the boss

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You can't convince Duty Finder groups to do this. They also would not be able to deal with the Haste from the Allagan Rot node.

I ran Turn 2 six separate times this week through Duty Finder. In each one, I taught them how to do Allagan Rot pass quickly and one-shot each of them. Not to mention that simply shielding the party means that Allagan Rot is survivable even if the mechanic doesn't get executed correctly. Just leave the content alone, it's stupid simple as it stands.

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Originally Posted by Asherek

I ran Turn 6 six separate times this week through Duty Finder. In each one, I taught them how to do Allagan Rot pass quickly and one-shot each of them. Not to mention that simply shielding the party means that Allagan Rot is survivable even if the mechanic doesn't get executed correctly. Just leave the content alone, it's stupid simple as it stands.

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Turn 6 does not have Allagan Rot. Allagan Rot cannot be shielded either, it is an instant raid-wide wipe. You're not even reading.

Sorry I meant to say Turn 2, little sleepy. In any case, it was simple enough to teach several duty finder groups to do.

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Originally Posted by KariArisu

Duty Finder parties just won't. Forming a Party Finder to...farm Turn 2 for Glamour would take longer than just doing the Enrages.


I was thinking that faceroll content should be, you know, faceroll? Turn 2 Duty Finder is 15 minutes because people flat out refuse to pass rot. If Enrage wasn't possible, might be better off.


You can't convince Duty Finder groups to do this. They also would not be able to deal with the Haste from the Allagan Rot node.

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The content IS faceroll easy. If you are waiting for enrage that is your problem, either man up and face the rot or take your 9 min wait.

Please Change Turn 2 so you only have to walk down to the Chests...

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Originally Posted by wicked-one

Please Change Turn 2 so you only have to walk down to the Chests...

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Omg this made me fall over lol'ing xP

Why are you DFing turn 2?

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Originally Posted by Trixxy

Why are you DFing turn 2?

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Try finding anyone who will do it anymore.....lol

It's 2015 and people are still doing the Binding Coil of Bahamut, Turn 2.

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Originally Posted by Taruinatho

It's 2015 and people are still doing the Binding Coil of Bahamut, Turn 2.

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Yeah, because glamour purposes, some people are only getting into the game now and want to experience it, or because the First Coil turns now drop materials that you can make some serious gil on.

Surprise, people do old content.

It should be your friend asking for this not you.

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Originally Posted by KariArisu

Turn 6 does not have Allagan Rot. Allagan Rot cannot be shielded either, it is an instant raid-wide wipe. You're not even reading.

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You are 100% wrong. Allagan rot can easily be blocked by the tank LB and other mitigation. The problem lies in the fact that the node will cast allagan rot again but if you can't burn it by then there is no point.

Turn 2 doesn't have to take 15 minutes, that is a choice a party makes. Rot method was never difficult to begin with, easy to teach and will always be the faster method. I always suggest it.

People got smart and figured out a way to beat T2 easily . The Devs know about this and didnt care..why "The players used their minds, got better gear and learned to play their classes better and took challage way" Nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with the enrage method. If you dont like it, make a PF and enjoy your rot. Enrage is almost standard now in DF.

I survived a allagan rot explosion the other day and it didn't wipe us, it seems you can just brute force it now with gear and mitigation (not even tank LB).

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Originally Posted by FranSeara

People got smart and figured out a way to beat T2 easily . The Devs know about this and didnt care..why "The players used their minds, got better gear and learned to play their classes better and took challage way" Nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with the enrage method. If you dont like it, make a PF and enjoy your rot. Enrage is almost standard now in DF.

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Having everyone stack behind the boss while the healers spam AOE cure is not "learning to play their classes better". That's a joke.

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Originally Posted by Noahlimits

Having everyone stack behind the boss while the healers spam AOE cure is not "learning to play their classes better". That's a joke.

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Dont be mad other players used their minds and Beat the fight a easier way. This is the biggest problem with a set part of the player base of this game. Some players never try anything new or differant.

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Originally Posted by FranSeara

Dont be mad other players used their minds and Beat the fight a easier way. This is the biggest problem with a set part of the player base of this game. Some players never try anything new or differant.

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Just like how Rot is the "new" and "different" method now right? Lots of people out there have not done it the Rot way, and probably will never care to either.

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Originally Posted by FranSeara

Dont be mad other players used their minds and Beat the fight a easier way. This is the biggest problem with a set part of the player base of this game. Some players never try anything new or differant.

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Like the players who never did turn 2 any other way.

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Originally Posted by FranSeara

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devs themselves acknowledged that they had overseen that way of doing even though they wouldn't correct it. Be sure that if there ever is a BCoB savage mode, enrage will juste wipe you out with some 30k+ damage and all that will be left will be tears.

Also, easier ? Back when the strat was created, it wasn't really easier, just different. In fact, with 2 healers in i70, it was close to impossible if the dps weren't good enough to actually pull out awesome numbers. That's why people started to go 1 tank 3 healers in the first place.

Please learn the facts true before saying it's "easier". The rot was never hard to handle to begin with. What was hard was to handle it if RNGesus granted you a laser on top of it, back when it was nearly a one shot on anything but the tanks. Or handling the haste + fire star for those who had chosen to get rid of the Rot.

also, @ people thinking like OP :
Just do the rot. You don't have to care about laser anyway as it's just easily healed. Do a full rot rotation, then all stack and eat all the lasers. How difficult is that ? It's like 40 seconds of paying attention, then shutting the brain off to just burn the boss down.

Facts: Some players may never have beaten this fight without the engrage. Fact: some player (like myslef) never know there was another way to do the fight. Fact; Still to this day I had very few groups Want to do Rot. Fact: The only time I've had 1 player sugguet rot,he was being a troll and a Elitist jerk (we kicked him). Opionion :without enrage, I dont think many players would have cleared T2 using DF. Fact: most DF group will not do rot.

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Originally Posted by FranSeara

Facts: Some players may never have beaten this fight without the engrage.

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True, because noone bothered to do anything else after the start began to spread.

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Originally Posted by FranSeara

Fact: some player (like myslef) never know there was another way to do the fight.

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Your own fault. Which fight is designed to wait for the enrage and ignore mechanics ? You might have at least thought that maybe there was some real mechanics in the fight at a point.

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Originally Posted by FranSeara

Fact; Still to this day I had very few groups Want to do Rot.

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Path of least resistance. "Olol too hard" when it's not. But they don't want to learn and prefer wasting time.

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Originally Posted by FranSeara

Fact: The only time I've had 1 player sugguet rot,he was being a troll and a Elitist jerk (we kicked him). Opionion :without enrage, I dont think many players would have cleared T2 using DF.

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That... was initially the point. You had to become better at the game at each point of the Coil in order to overcome the difficulties and go further. DF would be a breeze if people had taken the time to learn properly. T1 taught communication within the party, T2 taught to avoid AoEs, tank swaps, party communication. T3 was a joke, T4 taught how to properly dps and not just be a slacker. And T5 was a mix of all that (fun fact, you're supposed to swap tanks after every death sentence if not utterly overgeared).

With only people who had learned how to do the things correctly, DF would just be really smooth.

However, enrage helped Coil to gain popularity. Good ? Bad ? Can't say, but it's true that many people got to enjoy the Coil thanks to that. But that's an other topic

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Originally Posted by FranSeara

Fact: most DF group will not do rot.

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see above. Least resistance

Have a Good Weekend Kuwagami.

Haha lol i remembered how slow i used to be in dodging aoes before t2. Like i used to think ads linear aoe was lightning fast.
I also use to see ppl in pf parties say " i've never done rot before" and was decked out in allagan gear lol

But when else would you get to brush up on synchronizing your Manderville dances?

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Originally Posted by FranSeara

Facts: Some players may never have beaten this fight without the engrage. Fact: some player (like myslef) never know there was another way to do the fight. Fact; Still to this day I had very few groups Want to do Rot. Fact: The only time I've had 1 player sugguet rot,he was being a troll and a Elitist jerk (we kicked him). Opionion :without enrage, I dont think many players would have cleared T2 using DF. Fact: most DF group will not do rot.

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Ok so people who did enrage method are, in your own words:

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This is the biggest problem with a set part of the player base of this game. Some players never try anything new or differant.

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It worked out pretty well for those people too when SE, doing what they always do, kept it in mind for future raid design and ensured something like that never existed again. Hope they enjoyed SCoB.

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Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser

Ok so people who did enrage method are, in your own words:



It worked out pretty well for those people too when SE, doing what they always do, kept it in mind for future raid design and ensured something like that never existed again. Hope they enjoyed SCoB.

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Very good at twisting my words around but thats not " WHO" I was referring to. My statement was really meant for those special *$&#$%# who = "This is the biggest problem with a set part of the player base of this game. Some players never try anything new or differant".
But...Oh well. Have great day.