Attach Glamour to Jobs, not gear.

Not a big deal, but I have a Augmented Warrior AF that I like to have on my tank gear. But my paladin automatically defaults to the default. Ontop of this, when that gear gets upgraded to be paintable, it'll be mix match.. and as I get new gear, it'll be even more so.

I really wish that the glamour system was tied to the person or job chosen, and not to the gear itself.

I know i reference it alot, but DCUO had an awesome system. The game is soon going to have so many style options, that many will get lost. In DCUO, once you collected a style, it was your forever. People would buy gear JUST for the style to add to their collection, even if they never used that style. I would think crafters would rejoice to have their items purchased for style, and when you sync that style your collection, the armor become untradable.

Anyhow... won't happen, but it's a nice thought.

Well, the problem SE wants to avoid (probably) is one job looking like another (a BLM on full WAR glamour for example), but that's their own fault for encasing every job under such strong stereotypes.

They want jobs to have their own exclusive looks, AND they don't want to tax the already bloated character data with more appearance specs for each item.
There was a monster thread on "b-b-b-but we can wear hempen robes as WAR!"
They still haven't done it, and most likely won't do it.
Also remember DCUO is a game where a character only has one class. That's a decently big deal.

What Steady is talking about is how the glamour is tied to the gear, so jobs that share the same gear pieces also have to share the same glamour, and when you're using job restricted pieces like the AF gear, the appearance of the items revert to the original look when you switch to the other job that shares the gear.

He's suggesting that glamour should be tied to the job instead of the gear. so you can still wear the same gear on your PLD and WAR but have the possibility of using both his Augmented WAR AF on his WAR and whatever else on his PLD.

To Kasathar
This has already been shot down numerous times in many threads; SE themselves have already invalidated it as a reason with the current restrictions on who can wear what gear. And as for any job on a FF game having a stereotypical "look", puh-leas. This point too has been made plenty of times. Who wrote the manual that said "magic wielders may only ever wear robes, and fighters may only ever wear heavy armor". I'm a BLM, do I need a Ramuh beard to complete my stereotypical wizard costume? This is a Final Fantasy game and an MMO, beautiful unique designs paired with some sort of customization system that keeps us from looking like a bunch of clones should be a given, but we are having a hard time with the second part.

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Originally Posted by kyuven

They want jobs to have their own exclusive looks, AND they don't want to tax the already bloated character data with more appearance specs for each item.
There was a monster thread on "b-b-b-but we can wear hempen robes as WAR!"
They still haven't done it, and most likely won't do it.
Also remember DCUO is a game where a character only has one class. That's a decently big deal.

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Seems like a reason to complain and not a very good reason at that. 'I want to glamour what I want to glamour!!!!' Then roll up a Caster or DPS or Tank.

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Originally Posted by Riviere

What Steady is talking about is how the glamour is tied to the gear, so jobs that share the same gear pieces also have to share the same glamour, and when you're using job restricted pieces like the AF gear, the appearance of the items revert to the original look when you switch to the other job that shares the gear.

He's suggesting that glamour should be tied to the job instead of the gear. so you can still wear the same gear on your PLD and WAR but have the possibility of using both his Augmented WAR AF on his WAR and whatever else on his PLD.

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This. He's not talking about glamouring other jobs' gear. It's like almost nobody has even read what this topic is about.

PLD & WAR are two seperate classes wit seperate gear.

What the op is talking about, is like glamouring the job, so regardless of whatever you wear, when you're in that specific job/class, it shows the glamour you assigned to the job/class.

The problem with this is that you can't easily have a set of town-glamour and a set of combat-glamour. You have to have a "town job/class". :(

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Originally Posted by rblyell

PLD & WAR are two seperate classes wit seperate gear.

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They are separate jobs, but they share many pieces of gear. AFAIK, the only gear they don't share is the weapons, the pvp armor and the AF.

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Originally Posted by NozomiKei

To Kasathar
This has already been shot down numerous times in many threads; SE themselves have already invalidated it as a reason with the current restrictions on who can wear what gear. And as for any job on a FF game having a stereotypical "look", puh-leas. This point too has been made plenty of times. Who wrote the manual that said "magic wielders may only ever wear robes, and fighters may only ever wear heavy armor". I'm a BLM, do I need a Ramuh beard to complete my stereotypical wizard costume? This is a Final Fantasy game and an MMO, beautiful unique designs paired with some sort of customization system that keeps us from looking like a bunch of clones should be a given, but we are having a hard time with the second part.

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The late Gary Gygax of Dungeons and Dragons fame and his colleagues in TSR are the ones most responsible for that, as most RPG standards originated with DnD (EXP, levels, HP/MP, attributes and statistics, character classes, and yes, gear restrictions based on class such as no heavy armour on mages), and hence most modern CRPG/MMORPG developers just kept those conventions intact with certain degrees of alteration when RPGs made the jump from tabletops to computers and game consoles.

In fact, the FFXI manual even specifically stated the in-universe reasons for these restrictions - WHMs were prevented from "wielding edged weapony which would draw blood", and BLMs could not "wear heavy armour that would otherwise affect their ability to concentrate". And also, it's even traditional in past FF games where mage Jobs like BLM were only ever able to wear light robes. And it's the same here in FFXIV. They're standard RPG elements that have existed from the beginning - which means you can't just dress your BLM like a PLD I'm sorry to say.

I've proposed a similar idea before, but that instead of tying glamours to each job, to make them tied to each gear set, this already is sort of in game, in that you can have same gear glamoured on multiple gear sets but dyed different colors.

So many replies, that aren't really related to what I'm asking.

If your a white mage, and you glamour your Ironworks set to WHM AF, when you wear the same gear on Scholar, it defaults to Ironworks.
Same with wearing War and PLD
Same with Monk and Ninja for i110 gear.

I'm just asking that glamours be associated to jobs rather than gear. Not that I be able to wear a WHM hoodie on my Warrior. I want my Warrior to look like a Warrior, and I want my Paladin, to be able to have it's own style too.

I'd love for my SMN and BLM glamours to differentiate as well.