DPS Ninja Rotation

Hey guys, i would like to show you my DPS with my ninja and ask you what you think about it.

I have a random stuff from my monk, it's not that good i know but its a beginning :)

Enjoy : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7INyy-30oj4

You need lower latency to pull off the 22 second Raiton that you did on here, and let Huton drop for ~4 seconds. If Huton is <25 seconds, and Ninjutsu just came up, refresh huton if you're not using WTFast - otherwise there is a a large chance it will just fall off all together.

First Ninjutsu rotation you start a Raiton with about 17 seconds left on Huton. This should never be done.

Rule of thumb for me:
1-17s left: Huton,
18-20s left: Fuma Shuriken
21+ left: Raiton

You're waiting for your first Mudra to cast before queueing up your second, which is good for avoiding mistakes but it's time to work on smoothing that out. If you kind of roll quickly from your first to the second (as if pressing them almost simultaneously) it usually will cast both, making Raiton much faster. Unfortunately you usually need to get confirmation that the 2nd comes out before the 3rd so you can't roll through all three, but the overall rhythm for a 3 part ninjutsu will come out vaguely similar to a "ba dum tss" kind of rhythm (ie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zXDo4dL7SU ).

If someone knows a smoother way to consistently cast ninjutsu I'm all ears, but that at least will tighten up a lot of your mudra speed.

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Originally Posted by Odowla

You need lower latency to pull off the 22 second Raiton that you did on here, and let Huton drop for ~4 seconds. If Huton is <25 seconds, and Ninjutsu just came up, refresh huton if you're not using WTFast - otherwise there is a a large chance it will just fall off all together.

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Having Huton fall off for one GCD is entirely Ideal, 22 seconds is the perfect time to Raiton, at 20 seconds you can Fuma with latency. The GCD reduction only applies on the GCD AFTER Huton falls off and if you are re-casting Huton inbetween that GCD you lose no damage at all. This means that optimally you could use your Ninjutsu at the 16s Huton mark and still not lose even an ounce of DPS, but more than likely 17-18s is far more ideal.

Okay, thanks pour your advices guys i'll check this out

But you really think it's worth to use Fuma shuriken instead of raiton, even if i lose 3/4sec of Huton?

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Originally Posted by Clouwd9

Okay, thanks pour your advices guys i'll check this out

But you really think it's worth to use Fuma shuriken instead of raiton, even if i lose 3/4sec of Huton?

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Some people prefer to. I don't personally. From all the practice parses I've personally done it has been a dps loss for me to do so, but if your lag is really bad it is a definite alternative. The only times i really use Fuma is when the enemy is immune to magic damage or when I'm in a low level dungeon and that's all I have. I do however know people who have used Fuma over raiton due to lag issues and it has helped them. But I would have someone parse you and see which works best for you.

A couple things I would recommended that might be helpful.

Go to the settings and make it so that you can hold L2 > R2 or R2 > L2 to access the second cross hotbar. I noticed you were manually switching back and forth. The L2 > R2 method is superior in both speed in consistently then tap switching and its like a whole new world once you learn it.

Farm some second coil runs for HA gear. Some of the HA pieces are a nice upgrades from the soldiery pieces especially if you don't have access to final coil or are still saving for poetic pieces. Having the HA pieces on hand also allows more flexibility within accuracy caps for non poetic upgraded pieces.

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Originally Posted by Lavieh

Having Huton fall off for one GCD is entirely Ideal, 22 seconds is the perfect time to Raiton, at 20 seconds you can Fuma with latency. The GCD reduction only applies on the GCD AFTER Huton falls off and if you are re-casting Huton inbetween that GCD you lose no damage at all. This means that optimally you could use your Ninjutsu at the 16s Huton mark and still not lose even an ounce of DPS, but more than likely 17-18s is far more ideal.

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True but he did like 3 GCD's in his video before reapplying. That's why I said lower latency - makes the mudras take less time, so you can get the raiton at 22 seconds easily without losing gcd time.

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Originally Posted by Lavieh

Having Huton fall off for one GCD is entirely Ideal, 22 seconds is the perfect time to Raiton, at 20 seconds you can Fuma with latency. The GCD reduction only applies on the GCD AFTER Huton falls off and if you are re-casting Huton inbetween that GCD you lose no damage at all. This means that optimally you could use your Ninjutsu at the 16s Huton mark and still not lose even an ounce of DPS, but more than likely 17-18s is far more ideal.

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you still lose autoattack haste from not having huton up; you'll lose some dps from that

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Originally Posted by Aiurily

you still lose autoattack haste from not having huton up; you'll lose some dps from that

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You won't lose an auto attack... and you use an extra offensive cast. Literally you gain DPS by only using Huton when you need too.

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Originally Posted by Odowla

You need lower latency to pull off the 22 second Raiton that you did on here, and let Huton drop for ~4 seconds. If Huton is <25 seconds, and Ninjutsu just came up, refresh huton if you're not using WTFast - otherwise there is a a large chance it will just fall off all together.

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That's a bit extreme...considering it doesn't matter if it falls off between GCD's and also doesn't matter if it falls off while you're recasting that you should change that # to 20. At least. Even 19 you have a better than average chance of having no difference.