Starlight - What?

Okay, really this is just confusion more than anything. I'm one of many who has brought this up in Moogle and thought I'd voice this on the forums.

Why are the new items MOSTLY outdoor furnishings? Does SE not understand their 20/30(?)/40 item limit is EXTREMELY restricting as is? Furthermore, who the hell puts a Christmas tree outside of their house? Secondly, who puts presents under a Christmas tree outside of their house? I know this is just a game and things are different here, but who puts bloody presents outside of their house? The most important items this Starlight event are those which their placement makes absolutely no sense.

Now I can understand that you can't put Wreaths on the door, but the fact that you can't put any of those items inside the house that SHOULD be put inside the house really ruin the atmosphere IMO. All we need now is for these items to be one-placement only and we all may as well not even bother.

You decorate the outside so that if you are running around the housing district you can see them all =o

What would be awesome, if we received a "Container" Item, that basically allowed us to mask an item as a "Gift box" until you used the gift box, and then it would show you the item inside. Would make for cool FC Gift Exchange events :D

But you can buy three Christmas trees, and people will probably try to get them all. Not a single one of them can be placed inside, nor can the presents. No one will just run around areas looking at other people's outside-Christmas-ness. I could understand if one or two be placed outside while the third inside, but already people are struggling with not having any more room for the outside of their houses. The cap is too heavy. And MOST of the items that are placed outside an FC house are most likely bind on placement, so if you remove them, you're screwed.

Not only this, but the event is Non-Subdivision. Meaning FCs/People have to teleport to another ward, so no one goes to Subdivisions and people who were lucky enough to get a house first will also have extra people coming into their wards. Silly IMO.

But the FC gift exchange would be nice, yes.

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Originally Posted by KremlinDusk

Okay, really this is just confusion more than anything. I'm one of many who has brought this up in Moogle and thought I'd voice this on the forums.

Why are the new items MOSTLY outdoor furnishings?

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Because players begged SE for seasonal outdoor furnishings.

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Originally Posted by KremlinDusk

But you can buy three Christmas trees, and people will probably try to get them all. Not a single one of them can be placed inside, nor can the presents. No one will just run around areas looking at other people's outside-Christmas-ness.

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But they are running around in the housing areas looking for the outdoor christmas trees from other players.
They are part of the daily christmas quests.

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Originally Posted by Felis

But they are running around in the housing areas looking for the outdoor christmas trees from other players.
They are part of the daily christmas quests.

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Yes, I understand that. :) But players, self included obviously, wanted one for inside the house. We have little space AS IS for outside placement of objects, and this is coming from someone who owns an FC with a large house. There simply isn't enough space outside, and it makes no sense whatsoever that they didn't include a single Christmas tree that could be placed inside the house, as is tradition.

Don't worry, you can only put one xmas tree in your garden, not all three (unless you can put 3 different types, can't remember from the text but it seemed just 1 tree total)

It's just one tree per yard. The reason is, like someone stated earlier, is for the event. Depending on the color of tree you pick affects what drop you get. The blue, red, and yellow drop things are worth 2 green drops when you exchange them. However I agree we should have an indoor tree also.

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Originally Posted by mdha02

It's just one tree per yard. The reason is, like someone stated earlier, is for the event. Depending on the color of tree you pick affects what drop you get. The blue, red, and yellow drop things are worth 2 green drops when you exchange them. However I agree we should have an indoor tree also.

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I'm glad at least someone agrees that it would be good. A luscious green tree, perhaps a little smaller for house use(NOT TOO DAMN SMALL THOUGH!!), with small presents(I haven't seen the crappy placeable object presents for the house yet but I'm guessing they're way too big). The current tree that we can place looks absolutely horrible. Just because people begged for outside seasonal items doesn't mean it's a great idea. They could have done it well, I agree, but they clearly haven't. We all saw what happened when people kept begging for Lightning and Snow's hairstyle. Jesus that was just silly that SE bowed down not once, but twice more.

I don't think it's entirely silly to have a tree/presents for the outside... but only because I've seen it done IRL plenty of times. (May sound strange if you've never seen it, but some people who do "extreme yard decoration" for Xmas put what's essentially a public yard replica of your typical indoor tree setup outside. It's just another pretty thing to be lit up on the yard. As for the presents bit, they're empty boxes, of course!)

However, I do agree that there NEEDED to be a tree for the indoors. It's ridiculous that there isn't one, and little to no good excuse for why they didn't put one in the game.

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Originally Posted by dice137

I don't think it's entirely silly to have a tree/presents for the outside... but only because I've seen it done IRL plenty of times. (May sound strange if you've never seen it, but some people who do "extreme yard decoration" for Xmas put what's essentially a public yard replica of your typical indoor tree setup outside. It's just another pretty thing to be lit up on the yard. As for the presents bit, they're empty boxes, of course!)

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Yes
A christmas tree in the yard is not really uncommon

http://bilder.t-online.de/b/71/93/11...highlight-.jpg

Keep in mind also that this game comes from Japan. While they do have a concept of Christmas, most of their christmas trees are either freakishly small/fake and go inside, or are put outside since Japanese houses are...not all that big. The soft spot on my friend's head from walking into Japanese door frames should attest to that.

We demanded big trees, trees go outside, so they put the trees outside.
My dorm didn't even get a nice christmas tree on christmas ;_; a couple drunk guys almost stole one. From outside.

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Originally Posted by kyuven

Keep in mind also that this game comes from Japan. While they do have a concept of Christmas, most of their christmas trees are either freakishly small/fake and go inside, or are put outside since Japanese houses are...not all that big. The soft spot on my friend's head from walking into Japanese door frames should attest to that.

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Um...even XI has interior Xmas Trees (since there's only an interior for your personal decoration needs.)

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Originally Posted by KremlinDusk

Okay, really this is just confusion more than anything. I'm one of many who has brought this up in Moogle and thought I'd voice this on the forums.

Why are the new items MOSTLY outdoor furnishings? Does SE not understand their 20/30(?)/40 item limit is EXTREMELY restricting as is? Furthermore, who the hell puts a Christmas tree outside of their house? Secondly, who puts presents under a Christmas tree outside of their house? I know this is just a game and things are different here, but who puts bloody presents outside of their house? The most important items this Starlight event are those which their placement makes absolutely no sense.

Now I can understand that you can't put Wreaths on the door, but the fact that you can't put any of those items inside the house that SHOULD be put inside the house really ruin the atmosphere IMO. All we need now is for these items to be one-placement only and we all may as well not even bother.

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Completely agree. You know, it would have been nice to have a tree for those people you know, who only have a room, and not a house >.>

To be fair, it's not really Christmas. I mean, it's obviously Christmas, but it's not Christmas.

Well probably get indoor trees next year.

I agree that the limit of furnishings (both inside and out) needs to be increased so items don't have to be temporarily "swapped out" for seasonal items. And yeah, a tree inside would've been nice. I honestly would have liked to have placed one of each type of tree in our FC yard in order to help out other people doing the daily quests, but I understand that might prevent players from visiting other houses if they know they can go to one specific house each day and have a choice of colours. As if some players weren't lazy enough as it is, that would definitely make them even more lazy! :p

I agree that X-Mas trees are seen as outdoor decoration as well, along with presents, granted I have outdoor decoration of gifts myself, I don't understand why they didn't do a replica of the tree and presents for indoor furnishing as well. It's like they're not thinking it through and just shoot out one idea and that's it, no review or double-checking things. Just shoot it out and let the players find the faults.

5 gear, 5 food, 1 minion, 9 housing, 3 miscellany

That's 23 event reward items. 9 are for housing: 3 of those are the trees, which are tied to the event daily quests; only 2 of the remaining 6 are classified "outdoor furnishing" - don't actually know about them, can the rest really not be placed inside? Because if they can, that leaves only 5 items, less than 25% of the whole. Wouldn't say "mostly" about that, personally.
What is a little off-putting, though, in my opinion, is that it seems FCs are getting most of the rewards. Food is reused from last year, haven't figured out what the bags do just yet, the gear set is once again not complete (no gloves again, even weirder with the fanart feature), but about 40% of the rewards are for housing - 40% of the players surely doesn't have personal homes... And it's not like houses don't have rather strict limits on item placements anyway. Just... feeling a disproportionate, I think.

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Originally Posted by KremlinDusk

Yes, I understand that. :) But players, self included obviously, wanted one for inside the house. We have little space AS IS for outside placement of objects, and this is coming from someone who owns an FC with a large house. There simply isn't enough space outside, and it makes no sense whatsoever that they didn't include a single Christmas tree that could be placed inside the house, as is tradition.

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Yeah, but this is a game and an MMO. What's stopping them from making next year's rewards include an indoor "Starlight" tree? We have to have something new. So you didn't get one this year. Look forward to next year.

I think the outdoor decorations are great. Plus there ARE indoor decorations as well.

The only point I can agree on is that limited item space they give us to decorate our yards. My FC has a small house and even though we have 20 items in the yard it doesn't feel cluttered. If anything I feel like I should be able to put more decorations up. Yet to do that I have to remove other ones that I already like. That part sucks.

Yeah, cant say I agree with this. At the very least, a house celebrating christmas will have a christmas tree. It is the most iconic decorative item used indoor. Outdoor trees are fine, but obviously someone in programing doesn't understand this simple yet crucial thing.

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Originally Posted by Alleviator

I agree that the limit of furnishings (both inside and out) needs to be increased so items don't have to be temporarily "swapped out" for seasonal items.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but if they gave us ten more spaces for items, I don't really think most people would hold them in reserve for seasonal items. Unless they gave us some sort of "seasonal" allocation that dissapeared when the event was over (which would lead to more complaining) I'm pretty sure we'd still be swapping out our house decorations. Course, more stuff would still be nice. It just wouldn't be more space for seasonal decorations.